Should we live like Jersus lived?

[Blik]

Jesus was a Jew, we are gentile. Jesus lived as a Jew and we are told we need not be Jews to be accepted by the Lord. But we are told that when we accept Christ in our life we become Israel. That means that we need not follow rituals that Jesus followed but we do need to accept the spirit of God in our life.

We need not be physically circumcised, but we need to set ourselves apart from people who do not let God direct them. We don’t need to follow Jews’ dietary laws, but we need to watch carefully what we let in our bodies and minds. However, when scripture tells us that something is ordered “for all generations” that applies to both Jews and gentiles who accept the Lord.

Gentiles know that by accepting what Christ did for us when He died to pay for our sins, we have eternal life through accepting that, but what about following Jesus in this life? The Jews were doing this, but they have mostly turned away from such a life, and they do not accept what Christ did for them. There is, however, a book written by Israel Abraham called “Jewish Life in the Middle Ages” that spells out the life as Jesus lived it and tells of the results of that. It was after the middle ages that Jews mostly turned from living as Jesus did. These people followed the rituals, also, that we need not follow but they also lived the life the rituals were to lead to and it would be interesting reading for gentiles.

If gentiles accepted Christ, not only as a Savior but as a model for how to live, it would change not only lives for good, but the whole world.

 

[Lanolin]

Well Judaism was very strict even most Jews today cant live like Jews.
The thing with judaism is that it set itself apart from Israel when they were meant to be one family. You could say that that tribe thought of themselves as holier than thou. So many good things came from judea but then so much that was bad. Even Jesus got in trouble with the Pharisees for healing on the Sabbath.

 

[Lanolin]

If we walk by spirit and walk in faith we will live like Jesus lived on earth. Yes it will change everything.

 

[p_rehbein]

In my opinion, the Gospel of Christ (which is the blueprint) tells us (Christians) how we are to live. It isn't about dietary laws or any such..............there are the Two Greatest Commandments, and many instructions given by Christ that we should strive to live by...........to live Christ like.

It's about LOVE.............not about being Jew or Gentile, or Bond or Free, or any such.........

 

[Dino246]

Let's see... Jesus spent all night praying, didn't have a place to lay His head, was questioned by His own family, rarely entered towns, walked everywhere (or rode in a boat, and once on a donkey), owned essentially nothing, never ate bacon or chocolate, never drank coffee, and except for a trip to Egypt in infancy, never traveled more than about 100 miles from His birthplace. He also was misunderstood and even denied by His followers, maligned by His opponents, rejected by His people, insulted, beaten, whipped and probably flayed, and finally crucified.

Mmm... exactly what about His lifestyle did you want us to follow?

 

[gb9]

Let's see... Jesus spent all night praying, didn't have a place to lay His head, was questioned by His own family, rarely entered towns, walked everywhere (or rode in a boat, and once on a donkey), owned essentially nothing, never ate bacon or chocolate, never drank coffee, and except for a trip to Egypt in infancy, never traveled more than about 100 miles from His birthplace. He also was misunderstood and even denied by His followers, maligned by His opponents, rejected by His people, insulted, beaten, whipped and probably flayed, and finally crucified.

Mmm... exactly what about His lifestyle did you want us to follow?

" walk as Jesus walked ", " live as Jesus lived ", are code for " keep the Sabbath ".

that is a tactic the judeaizers use to try to confuse and guilt Christians.

 

[tourist]

Jesus walked the earth in the 1st century, we are in the 21st century. While it is good to try to be like Jesus I would not want to live like He did.

 

[Hevosmies]

" walk as Jesus walked ", " live as Jesus lived ", are code for " keep the Sabbath ".

that is a tactic the judeaizers use to try to confuse and guilt Christians.

Yup.

Thanks for pointing this out. The deceitful tactics.

Btw: I would say walk as Jesus walked means walk in love. NOT keep the all the Torah! We know from the rest of the NT that its not so! When Jesus was on the earth, they were still delivering animal sacrifices! turtle doves anyone?

 

[crossnote]

Jesus was a Jew, we are gentile. Jesus lived as a Jew and we are told we need not be Jews to be accepted by the Lord. But we are told that when we accept Christ in our life we become Israel. That means that we need not follow rituals that Jesus followed but we do need to accept the spirit of God in our life.

We need not be physically circumcised, but we need to set ourselves apart from people who do not let God direct them. We don’t need to follow Jews’ dietary laws, but we need to watch carefully what we let in our bodies and minds. However, when scripture tells us that something is ordered “for all generations” that applies to both Jews and gentiles who accept the Lord.

Gentiles know that by accepting what Christ did for us when He died to pay for our sins, we have eternal life through accepting that, but what about following Jesus in this life? The Jews were doing this, but they have mostly turned away from such a life, and they do not accept what Christ did for them. There is, however, a book written by Israel Abraham called “Jewish Life in the Middle Ages” that spells out the life as Jesus lived it and tells of the results of that. It was after the middle ages that Jews mostly turned from living as Jesus did. These people followed the rituals, also, that we need not follow but they also lived the life the rituals were to lead to and it would be interesting reading for gentiles.

If gentiles accepted Christ, not only as a Savior but as a model for how to live, it would change not only lives for good, but the whole world.

Should we live like Jersus lived?
I'm not sure who Jersus is, (lol)

Morally speaking, yes, ...in rituals and rites, you go first (I probably won't follow).

Perhaps your weak link is here...

But we are told that when we accept Christ in our life we become Israel.

I'm not sure who told you that but the more accurate description is ...

by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, (Eph 2:15)

and that 'new man' is not Israel because the Church is not Israel. Those that confuse the two will tend towards mixing the two Testaments.

 

[Lanolin]

Oh, again?

We should do this and should do that.

Only two comandments people. If you know them then this question is rather irrelevant.

 

[Blik]

If we walk by spirit and walk in faith we will live like Jesus lived on earth. Yes it will change everything.

If we walk by spirit and walk by faith what effect would this have one our actions? What actions do you think would result? Could we have faith and spirit without actions?

 

[Blik]

In my opinion, the Gospel of Christ (which is the blueprint) tells us (Christians) how we are to live. It isn't about dietary laws or any such..............there are the Two Greatest Commandments, and many instructions given by Christ that we should strive to live by...........to live Christ like.

It's about LOVE.............not about being Jew or Gentile, or Bond or Free, or any such.........

I so agree. The Jew and gentile question gets us away from God who sees us as His creation. It seems to me the gentile question is the results of jealousy because God used the Jew to give all people, Jew and gentile, knowledge of Him.

If we take the Jew/gentile question out of it and only think of Jesus as a human God who lived in a certain way, do you think following Him would change our actions?

I found by studying Christ this way it opened up wonderful ideas for Christ like living. An action that would result would be a party of family for a Sabbath celebration, even if you choose your own Sabbath day. It would be including some charity work or money. Being God said to celebrate His plan of redemption in a certain way at certain times "for all generations" we would follow Jesus in this celebration. We would put that movie and book aside that had dirt in it. Our family would become important, second to God. Christ was God in the flesh, Christ could judge, but Christ told us not to so we would accept all people and enjoy them openly, but the close friends we choose would be Christian. Actions would follow love, with love of the Lord first in our life.

 

[PennEd]

Jesus was a Jew, we are gentile. Jesus lived as a Jew and we are told we need not be Jews to be accepted by the Lord. But we are told that when we accept Christ in our life we become Israel. That means that we need not follow rituals that Jesus followed but we do need to accept the spirit of God in our life.

We need not be physically circumcised, but we need to set ourselves apart from people who do not let God direct them. We don’t need to follow Jews’ dietary laws, but we need to watch carefully what we let in our bodies and minds. However, when scripture tells us that something is ordered “for all generations” that applies to both Jews and gentiles who accept the Lord.

Gentiles know that by accepting what Christ did for us when He died to pay for our sins, we have eternal life through accepting that, but what about following Jesus in this life? The Jews were doing this, but they have mostly turned away from such a life, and they do not accept what Christ did for them. There is, however, a book written by Israel Abraham called “Jewish Life in the Middle Ages” that spells out the life as Jesus lived it and tells of the results of that. It was after the middle ages that Jews mostly turned from living as Jesus did. These people followed the rituals, also, that we need not follow but they also lived the life the rituals were to lead to and it would be interesting reading for gentiles.

If gentiles accepted Christ, not only as a Savior but as a model for how to live, it would change not only lives for good, but the whole world.

Jesus obeyed the Law perfectly. NONE of us can. That was the whole point of Him coming and dying. So I don't understand what model you are talking about.
What does it matter if Jews lived like Jesus lived if they didn't accept Him?

What He wants us to do is present the Gospel, love Him with all our heart, mind, and all our soul, and to love our neighbor as ourself.

 

[PennEd]

I so agree. The Jew and gentile question gets us away from God who sees us as His creation. It seems to me the gentile question is the results of jealousy because God used the Jew to give all people, Jew and gentile, knowledge of Him.

If we take the Jew/gentile question out of it and only think of Jesus as a human God who lived in a certain way, do you think following Him would change our actions?

I found by studying Christ this way it opened up wonderful ideas for Christ like living. An action that would result would be a party of family for a Sabbath celebration, even if you choose your own Sabbath day. It would be including some charity work or money. Being God said to celebrate His plan of redemption in a certain way at certain times "for all generations" we would follow Jesus in this celebration. We would put that movie and book aside that had dirt in it. Our family would become important, second to God. Christ was God in the flesh, Christ could judge, but Christ told us not to so we would accept all people and enjoy them openly, but the close friends we choose would be Christian. Actions would follow love, with love of the Lord first in our life.

I don't understand this at all. I am not the least bit jealous of a Jewish person. I love them, and technically I am grafted into my Messiah who REMAINS Jewish.

 

[Blik]

Jesus obeyed the Law perfectly. NONE of us can. That was the whole point of Him coming and dying. So I don't understand what model you are talking about.
What does it matter if Jews lived like Jesus lived if they didn't accept Him?

What He wants us to do is present the Gospel, love Him with all our heart, mind, and all our soul, and to love our neighbor as ourself.

If you never aspired to live better because those who achieve something have achieved it already and you hadn't you would never go to school, you couldn't be a child to learn from parents, you would be like a boat dead in the water. Jesus said "follow me". You say you won't make any effort to do that because Christ is so far above you. What a defeatist attitude. What rebellion to what Christ asks of us.

No one can love by sitting in a corner repeating the word love, love, love. As the scripture in James tells us, that is not love at all. It is dead. Even if you knock on every neighbors door and tell him Christ died for him, then that you love him, then go back home you are not making any real progress in living a Christ like life.

 

[Embankment]

When people say live like Jesus or what would Jesus do, things like that, we are not being asked to follow Jewish customs or such.
We are to have love and compassion for others. That is how to live like Jesus!

 

[Blik]

When people say live like Jesus or what would Jesus do, things like that, we are not being asked to follow Jewish customs or such.
We are to have love and compassion for others. That is how to live like Jesus!

By looking at what Christ and Paul lived, at the command both gave to "follow me" and still both was above the Jewish customs, I found great riches. I think that when this idea is plain discarded as entirely wrong that the Christian community is discarding what could be priceless riches.

The book Israel Abraham wrote, considered tops to explain Jewish life in the middle ages would be priceless information about the way God's ideas were used at that time.

Christians will study Luther or Calvin even though they are only men, but refuse to even think about God's ways! It boggles my mind.

 

[Blik]

Let's see... Jesus spent all night praying, didn't have a place to lay His head, was questioned by His own family, rarely entered towns, walked everywhere (or rode in a boat, and once on a donkey), owned essentially nothing, never ate bacon or chocolate, never drank coffee, and except for a trip to Egypt in infancy, never traveled more than about 100 miles from His birthplace. He also was misunderstood and even denied by His followers, maligned by His opponents, rejected by His people, insulted, beaten, whipped and probably flayed, and finally crucified.

Mmm... exactly what about His lifestyle did you want us to follow?

I think with your completely fleshly mind set that you are blinded completely to anything Godly about the life of Christ and cannot follow Him.

So get in your fancy car and drive to Los Vegas, you can find everything there to satisfy what your mind sees.

 

[Marcelo]

Jesus was a Jew, we are gentile. Jesus lived as a Jew and we are told we need not be Jews to be accepted by the Lord.

In Matthew 8:19 a teacher of the law came to Jesus and said: "Teacher, I will follow you wherever you go". And Jesus replied: “Foxes have dens and birds have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head.” In other words Jesus said it was (practically) impossible to follow Him because one would have to live a homeless life.

Now, if someone said to Paul: "I want to follow Jesus", what would be the apostle's reaction? I'm sure it would be totally different from the Lord's. Paul would teach the person how to follow the teachings of the resurrected Jesus (which are feasible), not the teachings given to the Jews before the cross.

 

[Dino246]

I think with your completely fleshly mind set that you are blinded completely to anything Godly about the life of Christ and cannot follow Him.

So get in your fancy car and drive to Los Vegas, you can find everything there to satisfy what your mind sees.

Yawn. You don't like my point so you attack me personally. Golf clap.

How about you answer the question.