we don't actually know how long it took
could have been a few hundred years...or a week
we just don't know
so no one can answer that question for you
Well, we know Adam was 130 years old when Seth was born.
Things to Consider Before Attempting to Correct the King James Bible
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Well, we know Adam was 130 years old when Seth was born.
I thinkhuh
I find the word of God inspires me in every translation I have
must be something about the Holy Spirit
hope you get better soon
That’s great. If you believe every word is true and right then God will show you great and mighty things.huh
I find the word of God inspires me in every translation I have
must be something about the Holy Spirit
hope you get better soon
I’m sure God gave the Chinese a perfect Bible too. I mean do you really think God doesn’t speak Chinese but I get it your just being an ass.
We don't have the "originals" of Genesis so your point is moot. What God can do doesn't prove what He actually did.
Again, what God is capable of doing is not in question. What actually happened is.
Your whole intent is to support your view that God inspired the KJV, and that because the KJV is inspired, other English translations aren't inspired. The problem with that view, as I have already pointed out, is that it is self-defeating and therefore impossible. I don't know why you don't accept that reality.
God didn't inspire the translators of the KJV any more or less than He inspired Jerome, Wycliffe, Tyndale, Erasmus, Luther, Stephanus, or any other well-intentioned translator. The word of God is inspired; the translation isn't. The instances of translation recorded in Scripture are on a completely different level than the work of translation done on completed Scripture.
You ignore the fact that English has changed in the past 400 years since it was translated. Also environmental science information has been greatly enlarged. Here is a list of the issues of KJV.
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For example, because of the changes in the English language, a number of words occur in the King James that make zero sense to most people today. These include the following nuggets that you will find scattered here and there:
Almug
Algum
Charashim
Chode
Cracknels
Gat
Habergeon
Hosen
Kab
Ligure
Neesed
Nusings
Ouches
ring-straked
sycamyne
trow
wimples, ….
The King James translators also translated some animal names into animals that in fact we now have pretty good reason for thinking don’t actually exist:
unicorn (Deut. 33:17)
satyr (Isa 13:21);
dragon (Deut 32:33) (for serpent)
cockatrice (Iswa 11:8),
arrowsnake (Gen 49:11, in the margin).
Moreover,, there are phrases that simply don’t make sense any more to modern readers: Phrases that no longer make sense:
ouches of gold (Exod. 28:11);
collops of fat (Job 15:25);
naughty figs (Jer 24:2);
ien with (Jer. 3:2);
the ground is chapt (Jer 14:4);
brazen wall” (Jer 15:20);
rentest thy face (Jer. 4:30);
urrain of the cattle (Exod. 9:2);
And there are whole sentences that are confusing at best, virtually indecipherable (or humorous)
And Jacob sod pottage (Gen 25:29)
And Mt. Sinai was altogether on a smoke (Exoc. 19:18)
Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing (Ps. 5:6)
I trow not (Luke 17:9)
We do you to wit of the grace of God (2 Cor. 8:1)
Ye are not straitened in us, but ye are straitened in your own bowels (2 Cor. 6:12)
He who letteth will let (2 Thes 2:7)
The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails fastened by the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd (Eccles. 12:11)
Other sentences make sense, but would today be considered somewhat problematic – at least for the sacred Scripture. My favorite is the one that refers to a man who: “Pisseth against the wall:…. 1 Sam 25:22, 34, I Kings 14:10!
1Co 14:7 And even things without life giving sound, whether pipe or harp, except they give a distinction in the sounds, how shall it be known what is piped or harped?
1Co 14:8 For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?
Can you guess what those verses are talking about? Your Bible is the trumpet!
Koine Greek died out as a spoken language, replaced by Byzantine in the 3rd to 4th century, BUT it was still used by the Greek Orthodox Church liturgy, (and still is) and copied into manuscripts by Greek speakers of later Greek.
So when I say no one "speaks" it, it is a dead language like Latin, and like Hebrew used to be. But, like Latin, Koine Greek is still used and taught - to be read, not spoken. The Bible and the Septuagint use it, and so, people still study it. No one knows what Koine Greek sounds like, although modern Greek speakers tend to overlay that language over Koine as far as speaking. But no one knows if it is correct, and we just have some rules to pronunciation.
Hebrew is another story, having been revived by the Jews and Israel. Although modern Hebrew is not the same and many modern words have been added to Hebrew on one hand, and the verbal system of dots, organized by the Masoretes, has been eliminated.
My husband and I were looking at Google Earth one day, at Greece and Israel. I could actually read most of the place names. But, I could not speak them, because I have not studied modern Greek or Hebrews.
I sure am when the word contradicts the Word itself. Take "evil" for example.
Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Well, well well! I'm so glad we have millions of Christians walking around claiming that God is the author of all evil. I"m sure the Holy, Righteous, Just, Pure, and Perfect God of creation loves hearing this.
YAY YESHUA for creating 'calamity' and 'disaster' to those that wish to disobey your Words of life.
Maybe just one more itty, bitty, teeny, weenie scripture? Though there are LOADS of them...
Neh 1:5 And said, I beseech thee, O LORD God of heaven, the great and terrible God, that keepeth covenant and mercy for them that love him and observe his commandments:
Oh my! Now God is terrible? Hmmm. NOT! He's AWESOME!
Our God is an awesome God, He reigns from heaven above, with wisdom, power, and love, our God is an AWESOME God.
Too bad many walk around saying He's so terrible. And yes, I hear this stuff on a daily basis almost. So please, don't make accusations against @CharliRenee or anyone else that chooses to study to show themselves approved and rightly dividing God's Word so that they can better understand the God we worship; YESHUA.... YAY!
P.S. Still nothing wrong with KJV, but there ARE translation errors in it; just as with other translations as well. I say, whatever translation people decide to use, just study to show thyself approved unto God the Father.
AMEN!
@Hevosmies
I forgot to add, Koine Greek has always been read, and now, many common document, literature and so forth have been uncovered recently. There is a continuous history of the Bible being in Koine Greek, and probably always scribes, scholars and monks who could read it, and passed that knowledge down!
I do not "speak" Koine Greek, but I am pretty good at reading it. I hope that helps!
I forgot to add, Koine Greek has always been read, and now, many common document, literature and so forth have been uncovered recently. There is a continuous history of the Bible being in Koine Greek, and probably always scribes, scholars and monks who could read it, and passed that knowledge down!
I do not "speak" Koine Greek, but I am pretty good at reading it. I hope that helps!
God is balanced, He's just. God can't be just unless He's balanced. If you're an enemy of God, He's quite terrible and can declare evil against you.
That's hogwash. Stick with what Scripture actually states instead of inventing doctrines from thin air.
Point being... Those words are not translated appropriately based on the context of the text, or in the context of whom God is.
So you really think evil came into existence outside of God? Where then did evil come from?
Feel free to start a thread, asking, if you so desire. More than likely there are many other threads that answer that question, or is at least debated. I don't wish to hijack someone's topic.
Hmmmm, good question, KJV. I think and I'll make it short because of what you Epiales mentioned about NOT hijacking a thread. I think calamity, chaos and evil are merely the absence of Him. So I think He made it possible for a realm, a mindset, a damaged soul, to be without Him. I don't know, though, just speculating. It is just hard to wrap my head around a God who is Love, who is true, who can't lie, whose mercies are new everyday creating Evil. I think this is such an interesting topic, though, so if you two do start another thread, I will be reading it, lol.
That’s a strange view of God, ive never heard of such. Do you think God sent a lying spirit to deceive people or is this a mistranslation too?
1Ki 22:22 (KJV) And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.
Isa 45:7 needs to be understood in context - God "creates evil" by bringing judgment on His enemies such when he had the Babylonians make war on Israel.
Just as he brought evil upon the apostate Jews in the war of 66-70 AD at the hands of the Romans.
So he creates peace and creates evil.
Just as he brought evil upon the apostate Jews in the war of 66-70 AD at the hands of the Romans.
So he creates peace and creates evil.
It’s not worthy of a thread, it’s a given that God is omnipotent and created everything... unless of course this is another mistranslated verse lol.
Col 1:16 (KJV) For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Hmmmm, i need to read more here. I am sure there is something I'm missing.
I like the CJB translation for Isaiah 45:7, I think it brings more clarity for me...
I form light, I create darkness; I make well-being, I create woe; I, Adonai , do all these things.
Yesha 'yahu (Isa) 45:7 CJB
https://bible.com/bible/1275/isa.45.7.CJB