Speaking in tongues

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Noose

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Ninety to ninetyfive percent of what we know about the manifestations of the Holy Spirit come from 1 Corinthians chapter twelve and fourteen. The other five to ten percent from elsewhere. Like this gem.

1 Corinthians 2:3-5
I came to you in weakness with great fear and trembling. 4 My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the Spirit’s power, 5 so that your faith might not rest on human wisdom, but on God’s power.
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When you claim some tongues are counterfeit, what exactly do you mean? Is it because they are not being spoken as per 1 Cor 12 &14
 
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lukeabers

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Since when is correct grammar nonsense. You seem to be using it?

How does you high level of paranoia fit with trusting God for your future?
If Jesus is your copilot, you're in the wrong seat.
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Listen, I understand, you have this neat little idea of how the world operates and just, wow, everything you see, every day, supports your 'beliefs'. Fine, except it violates what the Scriptures tell us. Pretty big deal. And, now, here, look at you, defending the capitalization of the adversary? satan Wants to destroy you, kid. Have you ever thought about what it is that you are up against? Do you think this is a kid's game??
 
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Oh, haha...yea, I'll bet...

I read a story of a guy who converted away from satanism...prior to his conversion, he was a blood drinking, ritualistic satanist that operated as a deacon at a church. You know, ruining relationships, sleeping with people's wives etc.

Wisen up, dovey.
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Maybe YouTube is like caffeine for you.
You need to dial back so you can get a grip on reality.
Could you give it for a week? Or are you too addicted?
 
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Sketch

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Noose said:
When you claim some tongues are counterfeit, what exactly do you mean? Is it because they are not being spoken as per 1 Cor 12 &14
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Didn't claim that some tongues are counterfeit.
Was explaining to someone else that if there is a counterfeit that they are confirming the real.
Don't think any tongues are counterfeit. The question is about the source. What spirit is being manifested?
I accept tongues as a genuine manifestation of the Holy Spirit until my discernment of spirits tells me otherwise.
 
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lukeabers

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Maybe YouTube is like caffeine for you.
You need to dial back so you can get a grip on reality.
Could you give it for a week? Or are you too addicted?
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Yea, funny. Love how the indoor cats have their jokes. I wonder how bad your PTSD will be after your first encounter...wonder if you will even survive, kitty.
 
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Listen, I understand, you have this neat little idea of how the world operates and just, wow, everything you see, every day, supports your 'beliefs'. Fine, except it violates what the Scriptures tell us. Pretty big deal. And, now, here, look at you, defending the capitalization of the adversary? satan Wants to destroy you, kid. Have you ever thought about what it is that you are up against? Do you think this is a kid's game??
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How many cups of coffee have you had this morning? You need to relax. Everything is going to be okay.
Can't you trust God with your future? Are you really going to win by taking things in your own hands.
If using correct grammar offends you, you need to get a grip.
 
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Kristian57

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'Tongues' is of satan. He is the deceiver and has deceived hordes of believers with this mis-interpretation of 'tongues' which should be 'language'.
 
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lukeabers

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How many cups of coffee have you had this morning? You need to relax. Everything is going to be okay.
Can't you trust God with your future? Are you really going to win by taking things in your own hands.
If using correct grammar offends you, you need to get a grip.
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Listen, child, maybe you should just sit this out then. Go ahead, keep doing what you are doing. God is furious that His Church is asleep, and, if you really knew God, that would terrify you.

The end has already been going for a couple of generations now. You are asleep.

Back to bed, son, the world is too scary a place for someone as naive as you.
 
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lukeabers said:
Yea, funny. Love how the indoor cats have their jokes. I wonder how bad your PTSD will be after your first encounter...wonder if you will even survive, kitty.
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So, you are a barn cat? You have lost your grip. lol
 
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Listen, child, maybe you should just sit this out then. Go ahead, keep doing what you are doing. God is furious that His Church is asleep, and, if you really knew God, that would terrify you.

The end has already been going for a couple of generations now. You are asleep.

Back to bed, son, the world is too scary a place for someone as naive as you.
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Wow. You seem to have created God in your own image. "God is furious..."
Sorry, my heavenly Father loves me unconditionally. He is watching over me and caring for me.
I don't know the "furious" God that you are describing.
Jesus said he would build his church. Is he now "furious" about his own creation?
 
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Wow. You seem to have created God in your own image. "God is furious..."
Sorry, my heavenly Father loves me unconditionally. He is watching over me and caring for me.
I don't know the "furious" God that you are describing.
Jesus said he would build his church. Is he now "furious" about his own creation?
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You must not read much of the OT, huh, housecat? :D
 
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lukeabers

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90% accurate. Good enough given a large sample.
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Problem is, it can be fooled. There can be false-positives. I would show inconclusive, my blood pressure, skin moisture etc is all over the board. Lying detection, while it may work sometimes, is simply not accurate enough yet.
 
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lukeabers said:
You must not read much of the OT, huh, housecat? :D
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I don't want to spoil the story if you haven't read it, but the second part of the book is called the NT.
Maybe you didn't get the memo?

Hebrews 8:7, 13
7 For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. ...
13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.
 
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lukeabers

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So, you are the guy in the testimony?
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Oh, no. Geez man, calm down...

Just a street guy here, not a ******** psycho....well, not that kind of a psycho, at least. Anyway, the point is you have no clue what is going on. Whatever town you are in, I'll bet all I'll make next year that you haven't the slightest of what is going on around you. The things I've seen, heard...the pale faces for these stories are haunting in themselves.

Wisen up, dovey! ;)
 
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lukeabers

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Sketch said:
I don't want to spoil the story if you haven't read it, but the second part of the book is called the NT.
Maybe you didn't get the memo?

Hebrews 8:7, 13
7 For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. ...
13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.
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Yea...you must not know that Christ only fulfills the law, does not negate it...yea....Christ is showing up with a sword. Christ punishes His children and destroys His enemies. Yea, sure, He is loving and merciful, but He is also the Emperor of reality itself.

You really need to do a lot more studying of the fundamentals.
 
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Sketch

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Oh, no. Geez man, calm down...

Just a street guy here, not a ******** psycho....well, not that kind of a psycho, at least. Anyway, the point is you have no clue what is going on. Whatever town you are in, I'll bet all I'll make next year that you haven't the slightest of what is going on around you. The things I've seen, heard...the pale faces for these stories are haunting in themselves.

Wisen up, dovey! ;)
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Since you have the "inside" scope, why not lay it on us?
Don't hide the secret sauce.

The word occult means hidden.
In what realm are you operating when you hide things?
 
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