Do we all willfully sin against God?.

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It is very easy to point a finger at someone else an say that person sins & not only that they have no desire to change. Are you and I any different?
I believe we all are guilty of justifing our own personal sins before God and using that worldly justification as an excuse not to change.
 
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Embankment said:
It is very easy to point a finger at someone else an say that person sins & not only that they have no desire to change. Are you and I any different?
I believe we all are guilty of justifing our own personal sins before God and using that worldly justification as an excuse not to change.
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Without determination our walk will stagnate in compromise.
If we set our course wrong we will bog down in carnal ineffectiveness.
Some set out to compromise. The cares of this world and ambition for wealth rob them of potential.

Misistry is a higher realm.
To walk in fullness and victory requires a surrender,a determination,and a divorce from this world and anti christ trash coming over the tv.
The nominal christian,child of the carnal modern church system,easy peasey loose walking joe sixpack christian with no real plan or battle plan,will see heaven respond in like manner.
No anointing,no power,no changed life,ineffectual ministry.
 
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Oh,and the merry go round of "oh well we all sin,so what the heck" no divorce of this world and all doors to the devil.

Those MUST pray for crop failure
 
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IOW, Set your course for ZERO SIN.
Pray if do sin " dear God forgive me,wash me in the blood,restore our intimate time"
Then pray " God,i will never be effected by that sin again"

Then,if yo do it again,it will break YOUR heart like it does his.

The merry go round is destroyed.
Welcome to the real world.
 
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seed_time_harvest

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Embankment said:
It is very easy to point a finger at someone else an say that person sins & not only that they have no desire to change. Are you and I any different?
I believe we all are guilty of justifing our own personal sins before God and using that worldly justification as an excuse not to change.
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I agree with you on this subject,thank GOD for mercy.

We all sin but to man there are some sins that are bigger than other sins and people judge each other by how righteous they FEEL GOD would like them to be which Is really someone trying to justify themselves,

but GOD doesn’t look at things the way man does.GOD has a perfect standard of righteousness that all come short In reaching and would fall short of the glory of GOD If It weren’t for JESUS.

The way that GOD looks at It Is like this,whether It’s big sin or small sin a man commits,GOD sees It all as offending HIS perfect standard of righteousness

So then any man trying to point the finger at another Is doing the same thing as the person they are pointing the finger at because they both more than likely are In the flesh,only GOD can justify a man and make his spirit perfect,nevertheless any man that has eternal life In CHRIST Will seek to perfect himself to the new creation he has become,You have to be reborn by the SPIRIT of GOD first though.
 
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Embankment said:
It is very easy to point a finger at someone else an say that person sins & not only that they have no desire to change. Are you and I any different?
I believe we all are guilty of justifing our own personal sins before God and using that worldly justification as an excuse not to change.
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If one is truly saved, then they are SURELY different.......they are a "new man," and their hearts have been changed.....

I do not believe a true Christian......saved.......sanctified.......justified sins WILLFULLY. Sins of Omission and sins of Commission. Do we slip from time to time? Yes, but those transgressions are not WILLFUL. Huge difference. As well, we are no longer bound to a life of sin as are those who have not accepted Jesus as Lord of their lives.

Your last statement there is between you and God. And you need to deal with that yourself, and do not assume to pass guilt on to other believers when you do not even know them. You wanna say this is how you are, that's fine, you know you better than anyone other than God, but do not pretend to know others...........you can not possibly know our hearts/intentions.
 
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I have been reading Jeremiah 7-9 and This has really convicted me. Summing up, believing outwardly in God but still living in sin. How Jesus keeps reaching out to me but because of a hard heart I did not listen, until now years later.
I can’t speak for anyone else, I know it’s been a slippery slope. A (small) sin here and there and soon became blind to most all my sins. I became blind to my sin because I stopped my personal walk with God.
 
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In my opinion, whenever we do choose to sin (since we always have the option not to) it is against God. More specifically, against His command. Yeshua was adamant that we work out our own salvation with fear and trembling and we go and sin no more. So whenever I sin by ultimately (choice), I know it goes directly against the command of Christ, WHO is God!!
 
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Absolutely said:
IOW, Set your course for ZERO SIN.
Pray if do sin " dear God forgive me,wash me in the blood,restore our intimate time"
Then pray " God,i will never be effected by that sin again"

Then,if yo do it again,it will break YOUR heart like it does his.

The merry go round is destroyed.
Welcome to the real world.
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Sometimes church people with a church doctrine will say,that person backslid and the person’s might feel condemned when all they should do Is talk to GOD,not to get born again again but just let GOD know that you are aware that HE knows what you did and that HE knows that you know that you should continue to seek to purify your mind to the new creation you have BECOME.

Every thing will be tested to see what manner of work It’s Is,yet the soul Is saved.
 
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I see lots of talk about big sins and small sins. How do we determine big from small using the Bible?
 
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Embankment said:
I see lots of talk about big sins and small sins. How do we determine big from small using the Bible?
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James 2:8-11
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8.)If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:

9.)But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.

10.)For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one [point], he is guilty of all.

11.)For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
 
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Embankment said:
I see lots of talk about big sins and small sins. How do we determine big from small using the Bible?
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If your tiny minute sin caused someone to deny God, then ultimately how big do you think that sin really was in the eyes of God?
 
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seed_time_harvest said:
James 2:8-11
King James Version(KJV)


8.)If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:

9.)But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.

10.)For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one [point], he is guilty of all.

11.)For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
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This from James (brother of Yeshua)(leader of the Council). Another example of how the Disciples and James followed the message of Jesus, not the message of Paul!!
 
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marinerscatch said:
This from James (brother of Yeshua)(leader of the Council). Another example of how the Disciples and James followed the message of Jesus, not the message of Paul!!
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The same GOD that Inspired men to write the Bible Is the same GOD that spoke the old and new testaments so you should be wiser than that.:oops:
 
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seed_time_harvest said:
The same GOD that Inspired men to write the Bible Is the same GOD that spoke the old and new testaments so you should be wiser than that.:oops:
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And yet, a council of men put the Bible together while [purposely leaving out Books we see men of God quoting from].

Joshua and David quoted from Book of Jasher, Yeshua and Jude from the Book of Enoch...and where are these Books at that even God Himself and his human half brother quoted from?

How do we actually know the council in 325 A.D. were actually what we would classify as true Spirit filled believers? Most of them were fat cats in RCC hierarchy. And if we discredit the Catholic church today, why do we believe they were any better 1700 years ago?
 
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marinerscatch said:
And yet, a council of men put the Bible together while [purposely leaving out Books we see men of God quoting from].

Joshua and David quoted from Book of Jasher, Yeshua and Jude from the Book of Enoch...and where are these Books at that even God Himself and his human half brother quoted from?

How do we actually know the council in 325 A.D. were actually what we would classify as true Spirit filled believers? Most of them were fat cats in RCC hierarchy. And if we discredit the Catholic church today, why do we believe they were any better 1700 years ago?
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Ok,so what are you REALLY saying,are you owning that post #14?
 
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Ok,so what are you REALLY saying,are you owning that post #14?
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I am clearly saying that according to James, the leader of the Council, obviously followed the direction taught by Yeshua (Jesus) that the discussion of sin was extremely important. Important enough to show even the saved can still sin and need to be forgiven. Which is quite the opposite message of today's interpretation of what people think Paul meant by "Grace." And those verses in James obviously goes directly against the message of Grace today.
 
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I know at times we see the Disciples and the Council patting Paul on the back. But it's rather obvious, not one Disciple or member of the Council ever read any of Paul's letters to the churches he helped start. And knowing it being 2,000 years ago, I am confident that none of the Disciples and members of the Council ever knew that these letters existed. I mention this because the message we read being preached from Peter is quite different and almost opposite of what we read in Paul's letters. And I always wondered if the Disciples and Council members actually did read any of these letters, since they seemed opposite of what the Disciples and Council members taught which is what Yeshua (God) taught, how would they have reacted?
 
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marinerscatch said:
I am clearly saying that according to James, the leader of the Council, obviously followed the direction taught by Yeshua (Jesus) that the discussion of sin was extremely important. Important enough to show even the saved can still sin and need to be forgiven. Which is quite the opposite message of today's interpretation of what people think Paul meant by "Grace." And those verses in James obviously goes directly against the message of Grace today.
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Did GOD Inspire Paul to write some books In the New Testament Its the Interpretation that the reader accepts that will always be In error not GOD.
 
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