What went wrong?

[Keyakku]

months ago when i felt, drawn to Christianity, don't know if it was my own accord or not. But, we wouldn't be able to come to Christ on our own without the holy spirit, right?

Well, anyways. That first night was truly, amazing. Learning about spiritual warfare after listening to Christian music, about God n so on, stayed up till 2-3 in the morning. I remember feeling a joy and peace that night, but also bone chilling fear when going to bed because it shook for some odd, reason (unhappy spirit?)

I was passionate about Christ, but, i didn't do much works. I heard something like a voice at work, "come to Christ" after being prayed for the night earlier. Asking for deliverance in times of temptation, fearing the Lord, talking nothing but Jesus all the time, sharing the gospel to friends, answering their questions to the best of my knowledge, reading and applying what the bible says, being overall enthusiastic and interested in the gospel, Jesus and God.

But, all that changed one day when i made the mistake of getting a thumb cut badly at work, pride set in from all the attention, and it was like, faith and belief went down and down. Sin started setting in more and more, i couldn't cry for God or Jesus when i wanted too, i still can't.. only a single tear or none at all. Ever since, i couldn't bring godly repentance. but i knew i had to confess my sin's and try to repent, to keep from a hardened heart.

Now, Idol's and distractions have taken my focus off Jesus, Habitual sin has set in, worried about reading the bible and having no interest or desire to apply what it teaches, worried about falling or straying away, or the Holy spirit leaving. Because of my unconfessed sins, i don't think the Lord will listen as long as i'm holding onto those sins. I'm still aware of what's going on and trying to pray, read scripture, attend church, hoping for something, anything. i just don't understand why and what happened to cause all this.. Things just have not been the same since that incident at work weeks ago.. i can't even sense God's presence..

 

[JaumeJ]

Keyakku, you have my prayers for your triumph in Jesus. He will not fail you. Of course you should notgo into a life of sin, but remember it is Jesus working in you changing you, not you.

I have trouble keeping this in mind but because of the first experiencing of the entry of the Holy Spirit, I know He will do all because He loves me...and YOU. Unhappily we remain unwilling sinners until the day He finishes His work in us. Until then we do our part to stay away from all types of sin

He who waits for the Lord is doign a work og God, so are those who pray, those who love…….and more. We do not need to rival the Apostles to be in His grace every day, for His mercy endures forever.

Now, you behave as best you are given, do not listen to the enemy, Jesus will fulfill the rest in you. Rember also, you will never be perfect in this age, He will complete His work in each of us on His Great and Glorious Day, amen.

 

[Hungry]

months ago when i felt, drawn to Christianity, don't know if it was my own accord or not. But, we wouldn't be able to come to Christ on our own without the holy spirit, right?

Well, anyways. That first night was truly, amazing. Learning about spiritual warfare after listening to Christian music, about God n so on, stayed up till 2-3 in the morning. I remember feeling a joy and peace that night, but also bone chilling fear when going to bed because it shook for some odd, reason (unhappy spirit?)

I was passionate about Christ, but, i didn't do much works. I heard something like a voice at work, "come to Christ" after being prayed for the night earlier. Asking for deliverance in times of temptation, fearing the Lord, talking nothing but Jesus all the time, sharing the gospel to friends, answering their questions to the best of my knowledge, reading and applying what the bible says, being overall enthusiastic and interested in the gospel, Jesus and God.

But, all that changed one day when i made the mistake of getting a thumb cut badly at work, pride set in from all the attention, and it was like, faith and belief went down and down. Sin started setting in more and more, i couldn't cry for God or Jesus when i wanted too, i still can't.. only a single tear or none at all. Ever since, i couldn't bring godly repentance. but i knew i had to confess my sin's and try to repent, to keep from a hardened heart.

Now, Idol's and distractions have taken my focus off Jesus, Habitual sin has set in, worried about reading the bible and having no interest or desire to apply what it teaches, worried about falling or straying away, or the Holy spirit leaving. Because of my unconfessed sins, i don't think the Lord will listen as long as i'm holding onto those sins. I'm still aware of what's going on and trying to pray, read scripture, attend church, hoping for something, anything. i just don't understand why and what happened to cause all this.. Things just have not been the same since that incident at work weeks ago.. i can't even sense God's presence..

Greetings. To answer your question, “What went wrong?” I will suggest it is your unrealistic expectations and the fact that you’re human. Maybe you have heard that we are the bride of Christ. We are the Body of Christ. We are adopted children of the Almighty Father. In these three descriptions we are given insight into our new roles. Since God defined marriage as a grafting/cleaving, two growing to be one. The body is individual parts, inseparable to make a whole. An adoption was/is a choosing of an orphan to be a legal heir. We are not the girlfriend, able to be “dumped”, or the tool of Christ picked up and used, or discarded at will, nor the hired help of God, who gets fired for poor workmanship.

What you experienced when you came to Christ was equal to those who desperately fall in love, get married right away then go through this fantastic honeymoon. However, when the adrenaline fades, you realize this relationship isn’t going to be everything you first thought. It’s a marriage. There is work. There is learning day by day. Some days will be awesome, some not so awesome. It doesn’t mean that on the not so awesome days, you aren’t married. Many of these flash romances end up in divorce because they jumped into a relationship not understanding the cost. Although this marriage will cost you everything you see, it will continue to strengthen you into a champion with unknowable wealth, in the life to come.

 

[Hungry]

By the way, how’s your thumb?

 

[88]

months ago when i felt, drawn to Christianity, don't know if it was my own accord or not. But, we wouldn't be able to come to Christ on our own without the holy spirit, right?

Well, anyways. That first night was truly, amazing. Learning about spiritual warfare after listening to Christian music, about God n so on, stayed up till 2-3 in the morning. I remember feeling a joy and peace that night, but also bone chilling fear when going to bed because it shook for some odd, reason (unhappy spirit?)

I was passionate about Christ, but, i didn't do much works. I heard something like a voice at work, "come to Christ" after being prayed for the night earlier. Asking for deliverance in times of temptation, fearing the Lord, talking nothing but Jesus all the time, sharing the gospel to friends, answering their questions to the best of my knowledge, reading and applying what the bible says, being overall enthusiastic and interested in the gospel, Jesus and God.

But, all that changed one day when i made the mistake of getting a thumb cut badly at work, pride set in from all the attention, and it was like, faith and belief went down and down. Sin started setting in more and more, i couldn't cry for God or Jesus when i wanted too, i still can't.. only a single tear or none at all. Ever since, i couldn't bring godly repentance. but i knew i had to confess my sin's and try to repent, to keep from a hardened heart.

Now, Idol's and distractions have taken my focus off Jesus, Habitual sin has set in, worried about reading the bible and having no interest or desire to apply what it teaches, worried about falling or straying away, or the Holy spirit leaving. Because of my unconfessed sins, i don't think the Lord will listen as long as i'm holding onto those sins. I'm still aware of what's going on and trying to pray, read scripture, attend church, hoping for something, anything. i just don't understand why and what happened to cause all this.. Things just have not been the same since that incident at work weeks ago.. i can't even sense God's presence..

***This was just an attack of Satan. We have to learn to walk with God not based on feelings, but faith. When I used to get up for work sometimes I did not feel like working at all. I had a job and a commitment to teach kids so I would go regardless of feelings. Later on that day the feeling to work was there again. Our feelings change. Feelings come and go. When you pray God hears you whether you feel it or not. When we walk by faith we know God hears us and God is with us. When we ask for forgiveness God hears us if we ask from our hearts. We could sin 10,000 times and as long as we return to God with a true heart He will hear and forgive us. You should not take this truth to mean we can use God and take advantage of Him because this is not right and will not help us in the long run. Hope this helps you. God Bless ------and yes, I have been through all the stuff your talking about and have been with the Lord over 40 years. He is true to His Word.

 

[Keyakku]

By the way, how’s your thumb?

it's healed, the scar is still there.

i know that Satan sets up orchestrated situations.. what if what happened that day was one big orchestrated event and he managed to pull it off and i fell for it...

 

[Keyakku]

***This was just an attack of Satan. We have to learn to walk with God not based on feelings, but faith. When I used to get up for work sometimes I did not feel like working at all. I had a job and a commitment to teach kids so I would go regardless of feelings. Later on that day the feeling to work was there again. Our feelings change. Feelings come and go. When you pray God hears you whether you feel it or not. When we walk by faith we know God hears us and God is with us. When we ask for forgiveness God hears us if we ask from our hearts. We could sin 10,000 times and as long as we return to God with a true heart He will hear and forgive us. You should not take this truth to mean we can use God and take advantage of Him because this is not right and will not help us in the long run. Hope this helps you. God Bless ------and yes, I have been through all the stuff your talking about and have been with the Lord over 40 years. He is true to His Word.

How does one return to God, and with a true heart? As long as there is worldly sorrow, there has to be no true repentance. if this sounds right, if we say we repent, then we are tested to see if our repentance of said sin was true or not? if returning to God with a true heart is the first step, then i need to work on getting that true heart back in order and get back into that walk of faith with God?

i'm still feeling a slight sense of guilt whenever something sinful happens, not too long ago there was this sensation of anxiety and fear over something... i didn't know what was causing it.

But, then my question is, again how does one return to God with a true heart, and develop that true heart?

 

[Hungry]

it's healed, the scar is still there.

i know that Satan sets up orchestrated situations.. what if what happened that day was one big orchestrated event and he managed to pull it off and i fell for it...

I think that humans need to face the facts that Satan doesn’t go around tricking and tempting people regularly, if at all. It’s not a devil, it’s human nature and the pursuit of pleasure/ avoidance of pain that leads us astray. James 1:12-15, is clear. More than not we battle ourselves.We invent the possibility of being tempted and tricked by a spiritual sadist, a master of torment, because we don’t want to admit the alternative; we are weak. Part of the liberation from sin, is faith in the accepting we are free.

 

[88]

How does one return to God, and with a true heart? As long as there is worldly sorrow, there has to be no true repentance. if this sounds right, if we say we repent, then we are tested to see if our repentance of said sin was true or not? if returning to God with a true heart is the first step, then i need to work on getting that true heart back in order and get back into that walk of faith with God?

i'm still feeling a slight sense of guilt whenever something sinful happens, not too long ago there was this sensation of anxiety and fear over something... i didn't know what was causing it.

But, then my question is, again how does one return to God with a true heart, and develop that true heart?

+++returning to God and responding to God is by Faith based on God's Word. Hebrews 11:6 Faith pleases God and sincere Faith comes by God's Word and developing a prayer life and relationship with God...

 

[HeraldandSojourner]

Check out some Paul Washer sermons on Youtube.

 

[Homewardbound]

I think that humans need to face the facts that Satan doesn’t go around tricking and tempting people regularly, if at all. It’s not a devil, it’s human nature and the pursuit of pleasure/ avoidance of pain that leads us astray. James 1:12-15, is clear. More than not we battle ourselves.We invent the possibility of being tempted and tricked by a spiritual sadist, a master of torment, because we don’t want to admit the alternative; we are weak. Part of the liberation from sin, is faith in the accepting we are free.

I like your response. When we become born again, our old sinful self is crucified. Yet, the opportunity to sin remains. We live in a fallen world, and when we are faced with a decision, we can choose to either obey sin, or obey God. I know by experience that the decision to obey God can come at a high price.

 

[Pemican]

months ago when i felt, drawn to Christianity, don't know if it was my own accord or not. But, we wouldn't be able to come to Christ on our own without the holy spirit, right?

Well, anyways. That first night was truly, amazing. Learning about spiritual warfare after listening to Christian music, about God n so on, stayed up till 2-3 in the morning. I remember feeling a joy and peace that night, but also bone chilling fear when going to bed because it shook for some odd, reason (unhappy spirit?)

I was passionate about Christ, but, i didn't do much works. I heard something like a voice at work, "come to Christ" after being prayed for the night earlier. Asking for deliverance in times of temptation, fearing the Lord, talking nothing but Jesus all the time, sharing the gospel to friends, answering their questions to the best of my knowledge, reading and applying what the bible says, being overall enthusiastic and interested in the gospel, Jesus and God.

But, all that changed one day when i made the mistake of getting a thumb cut badly at work, pride set in from all the attention, and it was like, faith and belief went down and down. Sin started setting in more and more, i couldn't cry for God or Jesus when i wanted too, i still can't.. only a single tear or none at all. Ever since, i couldn't bring godly repentance. but i knew i had to confess my sin's and try to repent, to keep from a hardened heart.

Now, Idol's and distractions have taken my focus off Jesus, Habitual sin has set in, worried about reading the bible and having no interest or desire to apply what it teaches, worried about falling or straying away, or the Holy spirit leaving. Because of my unconfessed sins, i don't think the Lord will listen as long as i'm holding onto those sins. I'm still aware of what's going on and trying to pray, read scripture, attend church, hoping for something, anything. i just don't understand why and what happened to cause all this.. Things just have not been the same since that incident at work weeks ago.. i can't even sense God's presence..

As to sin, confess it privately to the Lord as per 1John 1:9 as often as you sin. We all battle with sin throughout life because we still have a sin nature. Don't obsess over it. We all have areas of weakness where we are especially susceptible to sinning. As you grow up spiritually you learn to recognize your weaknesses more clearly. Some will shock you. You may not even discover some of them until you grow more.

As to the spiritual life, it comes down to setting correct priorities for spiritual growth. You commit yourself to learning, believing, and applying the Word of God to your life. It takes time. That's why I say don't beat yourself up, or obsess about your sins and failures. As you mature you develop more self-control, and make better decisions about your life, your priorities and your attitudes.

As to growth, it all starts with a correct understanding of the Word of God. You need an excellent pastor-teacher. The scriptures are complex and require consistent, in-depth study. It is not something you will really understand on your own. You need the help and instruction from an extensively prepared pastor. That's why God gave the gift of pastor-teacher, to help us understand the intended meaning of scripture.