Is Universalsim in Opposition to the Bible?
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Where your theory is errant is in lack of consideration of the level of cognizance of the parties themselves. Prior to the eating of fruit of the tree of knowledge, because the Bible does not say the fruit was that of an apple, Adam and Eve's minds were lacking conceptual development. They were a blank slate. This is why we know they did not comprehend obedience and disobedience. Because the groundwork for that differentiation requires a conceptual understanding of those properties that comprise, in this case, good or evil, so as to arrive at an informed choice. Adam and Eve were essentially possessed of the same intellects as newborns. Tabula rasa, a blank slate.
Adam had not yet eaten of the fruit when Eve presented it to him. He had no concept of death whatsoever. He could not then "decide" to commit "suicide" believing Eve had already died herself. Yours is extra-biblical . It has not one iota of relevance to the scriptures nor can it even be made substantial by inference.
Adam was still in the spirit and innocent when Eve offered him the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Having eaten of it then, both Adam and Eve became conscious of the worlds dual properties. Dark, light. Up, down. Good, evil. Obedience, disobedience. As the scripture warned them, should they eat of the fruit they would become like God in that Gnosis, knowledge.
The question then arises, what was so wrong with possessing the consciousness of the Father of their creation? When, as those who are later in Christ, we are to strive to be sanctified in Christ so that our consciousness is aligned to the knowledge and will of the Father.
Adam had not yet eaten of the fruit when Eve presented it to him. He had no concept of death whatsoever. He could not then "decide" to commit "suicide" believing Eve had already died herself. Yours is extra-biblical . It has not one iota of relevance to the scriptures nor can it even be made substantial by inference.
Adam was still in the spirit and innocent when Eve offered him the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Having eaten of it then, both Adam and Eve became conscious of the worlds dual properties. Dark, light. Up, down. Good, evil. Obedience, disobedience. As the scripture warned them, should they eat of the fruit they would become like God in that Gnosis, knowledge.
The question then arises, what was so wrong with possessing the consciousness of the Father of their creation? When, as those who are later in Christ, we are to strive to be sanctified in Christ so that our consciousness is aligned to the knowledge and will of the Father.
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Alot of assumptions there, Assumptions which can not be proven (ie, Adam was told he would die. So if he believed God. He would know eating of the fruit, he would die. Him knowing what it is is beside the point. I am sure he did. Unlike us, He was taught by God personally.. one on one..
Anyway,
You go with your assumptions.
I will go with mine
One day we will meet adam, and we will know the truth. And we may both be wrong..
Anyway,
You go with your assumptions.
I will go with mine
One day we will meet adam, and we will know the truth. And we may both be wrong..
I won't be wrong. My understanding comes from reading the scriptures. Therefore it is not assumption, it is the book of Genesis as written of and about Adam and Eve and their state of consciousness and presence in the garden from creation unto expulsion.
Adam had no knowledge of death. Being told he would die does not mean he comprehended death. Also, there were many trees in the garden. Seeing Eve for the first time carrying the fruit Adam would not necessarily have known it was from the tree of knowledge until she informed him of such. Therefore,your assumption that Adam saw Eve and realized she had died is flawed. Because Adam did not possess knowledge of this world, good and evil, life and death, symmetry, polarity, and dual nature.
He saw Eve as he knew here to be through his innocent comprehension of her form because he did not yet possess the knowledge to understand she had died to her former self.
Adam had no knowledge of death. Being told he would die does not mean he comprehended death. Also, there were many trees in the garden. Seeing Eve for the first time carrying the fruit Adam would not necessarily have known it was from the tree of knowledge until she informed him of such. Therefore,your assumption that Adam saw Eve and realized she had died is flawed. Because Adam did not possess knowledge of this world, good and evil, life and death, symmetry, polarity, and dual nature.
He saw Eve as he knew here to be through his innocent comprehension of her form because he did not yet possess the knowledge to understand she had died to her former self.
You said that to @Lillywolf , not me.