The End of a Nation

[garee]

Just a note, the word "blood" is not in the oldest manuscripts.

Because God creates things after kinds. It would seem..... of the one blood all nations, it would be the blood of mankind and not any other kind.

Acts 17:26 King James Version (KJV) 26 And hath made of ONE BLOOD all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

Two or three gathering together under the authority of invisible head of Christ..... He is there . Its takes two or three to make a nation of people. A family is a sect or a denomination of all the nations of the world.

 

[GraceAndTruth]

dcontroversal.........now don't try any of your scripture tricks.....like knowing the actual meaning of them there words.

 

[Endoscopy]

Listen dude, it is obvious that you don't subscribe to the same values that this Nation was founded upon so you can save your psudeo patrotic rhetoric about this Nation you abhor while hiding behind the cloke of self righteousness because the founding fathers revealed your hypocrisy with the truths declared to be self-evident.

But then again reprobrates don't grasp the doctrine of Christ since they are not subject to principles of truth neither can they be since they are liars from the beginning who refuse to abide in the truth.

So you allowed the murder of 65 million babies in the womb? You embrace sexual perversion? You are oppressive for the the sake of your own interest? So you ostractize the truth and believers which embracing occultism and satanism? So you knew God it truth at one time but will not be healed, and is not long for judgment?

Well buddy, we the People are this Nation so whatever you say about this Nation is nothing more than an honest reflection of one's self, so thank you for letting us see real you.

Not to derail your thread but where did you get that accent, "Surely, a nation"?

I suggest you take a good look at the US. We were a Christian nation when we started. Currently the main protestant denominations have been taken over by secular ministers wanting access to the church money. Gary North wrote a book "Crossed Fingers" documenting the takeover of the Presbyterian USA denomination. The other 6 of the 7 sisters denominations have met the same fate. At present only the sub denominations still preach the gospel message. Go to a Presbyterian USA church and see if they give the gospel message. See if you even hear them mention Jesus. As a result this is a secular country with only a splinter of Christians left.

God knew the end from the begining. When he created the heavens and earth he set in motion in the solar system condemnation of countries with eclipses crossing from one border to the other border. Countries so condemned ceased to be as great as they used to be. The US had a sole eclipse going east to west. In 2024 another eclipse will cross from northeast to southwest crossing 7 cities named Salem. That draws an X on the country. He set these eclipses in motion at creation. This country is being condemned by God.

 

[GraceAndTruth]

Congregations today want their ears tickled.

 

[Endoscopy]

Congregations today want their ears tickled.

It is what they need to hear instead of what they want to hear. That gets very important at judgement time. The prophecy is when at judgement time those talking about their works will be told "Begone, I never knew you." Too many think salvation is earned instead of grace being a free gift of God.

 

[GraceAndTruth]

It is what they need to hear instead of what they want to hear. That gets very important at judgement time. The prophecy is when at judgement time those talking about their works will be told "Begone, I never knew you." Too many think salvation is earned instead of grace being a free gift of God.

Depart from Me I never knew you.........sad words from the LOrd indeed. Words spoken to people who thought they were saved.

 

[BaptistBibleBeliever]

Listen dude, it is obvious that you don't subscribe to the same values that this Nation was founded upon so you can save your psudeo patrotic rhetoric about this Nation you abhor while hiding behind the cloke of self righteousness because the founding fathers revealed your hypocrisy with the truths declared to be self-evident.

 

[BaptistBibleBeliever]

A couple of books that truly surprised me considering the author is good buds with the likes of Jim Bakker are

The Harbinger
The Paradigm

The books look at Israel and Judah prior to their fall and shows how the correlate with America from the 1990's under Clinton to the present day of Trump.

As I said, they truly surprised me and are quite hard to argue against their theme.

both are by Jonathan Cahn

 

[Karraster]

A couple of books that truly surprised me considering the author is good buds with the likes of Jim Bakker are

The Harbinger
The Paradigm

The books look at Israel and Judah prior to their fall and shows how the correlate with America from the 1990's under Clinton to the present day of Trump.

As I said, they truly surprised me and are quite hard to argue against their theme.

both are by Jonathan Cahn

Without a doubt, America needs to repent and turn from sin. Who doesn't know that? However, there are a few questions I have...such as, when was America in covenant with God? Why are the harbingers based at ground zero, what makes that site some mystical holy place? I am not knocking Cahn's book, just not convinced he is entirely correct.

 

[UnderGrace]

First of all, where did I say I want to enslave my brothers or sisters in Christ. I didn't. You are reading it that way, and are reporting it that way.

So who is to be enslaved?

 

[BaptistBibleBeliever]

Without a doubt, America needs to repent and turn from sin. Who doesn't know that? However, there are a few questions I have...such as, when was America in covenant with God? Why are the harbingers based at ground zero, what makes that site some mystical holy place? I am not knocking Cahn's book, just not convinced he is entirely correct.

Cahn explains all that in the book, and it would be rather difficult to lay it all out on a chat board. Did you read the book(s)?

 

[Karraster]

Cahn explains all that in the book, and it would be rather difficult to lay it all out on a chat board. Did you read the book(s)?

Actually he does not explain his position on America being in covenant with God, such as Israel is. I've not read the book, however, this is one of the many questions his critics have raised that is not addressed in the book. I just happened to be studying the covenants when this book came out, why I was interested.

 

[BaptistBibleBeliever]

He shows that God raised up America to be a friend of Israel when they had no others. It was America that stood with Israel during her darkest days. When America turns its back on Israel, God will surely turn His back on them.

And when you read 'critics' about something--what do you expect to get? Praise? Try going to Amazon and reading the reviews.

Now as to Cahn's total ministry and association with Jim Bakker, I would likely be a critic as well. But his books spoke to me as few have that I've read. It's been over a year though.

 

[Dooms]

Christ has specifically instructed how we are to act in this age. Grow up and deny mammon.

 

[BaptistBibleBeliever]

I bought food today. I used mammon. I guess I'm cursed now.

 

[pottersclay]

Without a doubt, America needs to repent and turn from sin. Who doesn't know that? However, there are a few questions I have...such as, when was America in covenant with God? Why are the harbingers based at ground zero, what makes that site some mystical holy place? I am not knocking Cahn's book, just not convinced he is entirely correct.

America will never repent, it doesn't have to. The Lord says if my people who call me by name repent I will heal their land.

And that right there it starts. Who here is bold enough to take a stand for Christ? Not your church, not your denomination but for Christ. Why do we wait on someone else when we according to popular belief in this forum are the "called out ones".
Show me one scripture that says we are to point out the bad come out from it and wait for the Lord.
This nation does have it's issues but compared to others and again popular census would dictate it is very much in demand to be lived in. Why??
Bad news travels like wild fire good news travels slow. This nation is so distracted in the blame game it's sickness has spread all throughout the world.
God doesn't have to judge this nation and while evil flourishes and good men do nothing keeps on well....it will destroy it's self.
Feel the call.......time to act Christian.........what's it going to be?

 

[Karraster]

America will never repent, it doesn't have to. The Lord says if my people who call me by name repent I will heal their land.

And that right there it starts. Who here is bold enough to take a stand for Christ? Not your church, not your denomination but for Christ. Why do we wait on someone else when we according to popular belief in this forum are the "called out ones".
Show me one scripture that says we are to point out the bad come out from it and wait for the Lord.
This nation does have it's issues but compared to others and again popular census would dictate it is very much in demand to be lived in. Why??
Bad news travels like wild fire good news travels slow. This nation is so distracted in the blame game it's sickness has spread all throughout the world.
God doesn't have to judge this nation and while evil flourishes and good men do nothing keeps on well....it will destroy it's self.
Feel the call.......time to act Christian.........what's it going to be?

I can't really see how this response pertains to what I posted, however I will comment on your scripture reference from 2 Chronicles. This pertains to Israel land.....not America land. Very confusing when we try to apply every chapter/verse to our personal situation.

 

[Quantrill]

So who is to be enslaved?

There is no institution of slavery today.

Quantrill

 

[Jimbone]

Amen brother.........I always love your measured responses...........keep swinging the sword.....

Depart from Me I never knew you.........sad words from the LOrd indeed. Words spoken to people who thought they were saved.

This is the most terrifying verse in the bible to me. As someone who called myself Christian for years, I repeated the prayer, was even dunked under water for good measure, yet I did not know Him. I would have thought this very thing if I would have died in the motorcycle wreak that took the use of my arm. I also do not think it was by chance either, God showed me the difference, my spirit was still dead then, I had not been born again yet, born of the Spirit, reconciled by His grace through His Son, Jesus our Christ the ONLY way and name by which man can be saved. He showed me this so I could testify of His glory more effectively and I praise His name for every bit of it.

LOL, quite often I have brothers and sister come up to me and pray that God heal my arm, and I love them so much and know what's in their hearts for me, but I have to tell them that I love you and understand what you're saying to me, but have to tell you that He already did heal me. The loss of my arm truly broke me, in the flesh I couldn't handle it, deep inside I hated it so bad I just wanted to die. I was defeated 100%, for 2 solid years, and the main thing that got me was I was powerless and without any hope of ever having the problem fixed. It just wasn't possible. That's what broke me, "I", could do NOTHING to make it better.

Like I said I already thought I'd been a Christian for years, I thought I knew what that was, and God wasn't helping me either to be honest. I have shared this many time's, but think it truly makes an important point, but when I finally hit my knees, if I had ever truly believed before, I didn't then, I did not hit my knees and say "God I need you now", no I already thought I knew what that was and it didn't help. When I hit my knees it was in utter defeat and it was crying from my soul "I can't do this anymore", "world you win, I tried, and I quit". The next day it wasn't until lunch when the atom bomb went off in my head, "I HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT KILLING MYSELF ALL DAY!!!!!". You have to understand this is after 2 solid years of suicidal thoughts every 5 minutes that I couldn't control. I was broken to the core and everyone around me could see it, and were just as powerless to help me. But that was the day I was reborn spiritually and reconciled to our Creator, that was the day He healed me, the day He granted me repentance and put the old man to death. From that day till today this arm no longer "hurts me" in my heart, to be honest I don't ever really think about it. I tell those who pray for God to heal it, that He already has. My true prayer on the matter is "God if you want to heal this arm in front of a stadium of people on live TV, with before and after doctor examines to verify everything for the world, then Your will be done and praise Jesus mighty name to the miracle biz-ank. But honestly Lord, I see how it's a so much more powerful testament of your power just how it is now. I think I can honestly better share His power and glory with others how I am now, And I thank you Lord for everything you've blessed me with. Amen." Or something along those lines. 8^)

 

[luigi]

One is slave to whatever overcomes them, whether money, sex, cars, clothing fashion, etc.; or whether it is spiritual as in love, justice, truth, humility, etc.

2 Peter 2:19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.