Does saved by grace, not under law cancel the 119th Psalm?
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This is salvation for the one who obeys with all their heart. God's laws were obeyed physically under Moses but are now obeyed spiritually under Christ. For example, they had physical circumcision under Moses, whereas we have spiritual circumcision of the heart- which God performs with Christ's blood when we get baptized. God's laws do not change, the only thing that changed is how we obey them. The one who puts no effort into obeying God is in denial if they think they are saved. We have biblical examples of "Well done good and faithful servant" and "Throw that lazy wicked servant into outer darkness where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
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nothing like living on borrowed time is there........... 
mayhaps you guys should all take a deep breath, step back, and give it a bit of a wee rest?
mayhaps you guys should all take a deep breath, step back, and give it a bit of a wee rest?
I'm just what this place needs, a scape goat. No one wants to take responcibility for their own actions.
And it is clear that management won't do anything. Except bark at you in public. Very bad form.
Here's another one for you.
Who is being thrown in the fire? And what does that represent? (hell)
Matthew 7:16-20
By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
Who is being thrown in the fire? And what does that represent? (hell)
Matthew 7:16-20
By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
What do you mean another one for me? You haven't understood any of the other texts you've provided, and think Jesus sinned (broke the Law).
I've proven to you that Jesus did obey the law, fulfilling it, Romans 5:19, something you deny, and then you quote a verse thinking he broke the law; John 5:18.
The only way you're going to move forward is by being corrected in your past error and owning it, instead of moving away from it in denial.
I've proven to you that Jesus did obey the law, fulfilling it, Romans 5:19, something you deny, and then you quote a verse thinking he broke the law; John 5:18.
The only way you're going to move forward is by being corrected in your past error and owning it, instead of moving away from it in denial.
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What is the most basic violation of the Sabbath? (work)
Did Jesus work on the Sabbath? (yes)
Did he admit that it was work? (yes)
Was it sin? (nope) Why not?
He was setting the law aside.
He was Lord of the Sabbath. It was his call.
John 5:16-18
So, because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jewish leaders began to persecute him. 17 In his defense Jesus said to them, “My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I too am working.” 18 For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.
Did Jesus work on the Sabbath? (yes)
Did he admit that it was work? (yes)
Was it sin? (nope) Why not?
He was setting the law aside.
He was Lord of the Sabbath. It was his call.
John 5:16-18
So, because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jewish leaders began to persecute him. 17 In his defense Jesus said to them, “My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I too am working.” 18 For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.
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Wow dude really?
Let me help
This is a bible DISCUSSION forum,
WHen people discuss the word. Some will disagree
Some people. When they disagree, give a thumbs down, just like when they agree, they give a thumbs up.
If you can not handle people disagreeing with you...
1. WHy are you so proud you think you know it all?
2. Why are you in a bible discussion forum?
Let me help
This is a bible DISCUSSION forum,
WHen people discuss the word. Some will disagree
Some people. When they disagree, give a thumbs down, just like when they agree, they give a thumbs up.
If you can not handle people disagreeing with you...
1. WHy are you so proud you think you know it all?
2. Why are you in a bible discussion forum?
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Galatians 3:23-25
Before the coming of this faith, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. 24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. 25 Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.
Before the coming of this faith, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. 24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. 25 Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.
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You missed some important verses here
Gal 3:
For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, “Cursed iseveryone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them.”
If Jesus broke the law he is cursed. Period.
11 But that no one is [d]justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for “the just shall live by faith.” 12 Yet the law is not of faith, but “the man who does them shall live by them.”
13 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law,
In order for christ to redeem us from the curse of the law. As the sacrificial lamb, He had to obey the law perfectly to fulfill it. If he broke one command, he is guilty.
You really need to study more my friend.
Gal 3:
For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, “Cursed iseveryone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them.”
If Jesus broke the law he is cursed. Period.
11 But that no one is [d]justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for “the just shall live by faith.” 12 Yet the law is not of faith, but “the man who does them shall live by them.”
13 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law,
In order for christ to redeem us from the curse of the law. As the sacrificial lamb, He had to obey the law perfectly to fulfill it. If he broke one command, he is guilty.
You really need to study more my friend.
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