WE PREACH CHRIST CRUCIFIED

[mailmandan]

Notice! Jesus called these people Disciples. Which means they were saved. But now they are no longer saved (John 6:66). The scripture says, "THEY WALK NO MORE!!!!!!!." This should be a warning to every Believer!

Nowhere do we find the words, “no longer saved” in John chapter 6. Judas Isacariot was also called a “disciple” but he was not saved either. Judas walked with Jesus for 3 years, yet Jesus referred to him as an unbelieving, unclean devil who would betray Him! (John 6:64-71; 13:10-11).

This should be a warning to every “nominal” Christian whose belief in Jesus falls short of genuine or consummated belief resulting in salvation. *Also see John 8:31 and 1 John 2:19.

 

[MessageOfTheCross]

Nowhere do we find the words, “no longer saved” in John chapter 6. Judas Isacariot was also called a “disciple” but he was not saved either. Judas walked with Jesus for 3 years, yet Jesus referred to him as an unbelieving, unclean devil who would betray Him! (John 6:64-71; 13:10-11).

This should be a warning to every “nominal” Christian whose belief in Jesus falls short of genuine or consummated belief resulting in salvation. *Also see John 8:31 and 1 John 2:19.

Nowhere do you see the word "Rapture," however, I understand the revelation of the scripture.

 

[MessageOfTheCross]

Those who walk in the spirit will always have shortcomings (acts of sin) until the trump sounds. We must rejoice in whatever Glory we are in. God is the potter and we are the clay. He moves us from glory to glory and faith to faith. No man or woman can change their life without the Holy Spirit. Can an Ethiopian change the color of his skin? Can a leopard take away its spots? Neither can you start doing good, for you have always done evil (Jeremiah 13:23). The scripture says before He formed me in my mothers womb He approved me.

This is why we must understand what justification is and why it is the first subject in the book of Romans. It lays down the foundation as I go through sanctification.

Justification gives me the ability to get back up from every failure no matter how many times and stand up and go through this process and learn it. Justification gives us a legal standing with God that is not cancelled because of the acts of sin. So if I fail (and we will) at this same thing a thousand times - God forbid! We are a work in progress. Remember Jesus said I did not come to condemn (John 3:17).

Justification is not what we do, and not what I am, and not what I worked for. It is what Jesus did and my faith in it that gives me the standing with God that I need to carry on my Christian experience. Sometime I do it well, and sometimes I do it not so well, but his justifying Grace will not fail unless my faith fails. It is just if I have never sinned and just if I have always obeyed.

Pastor Loren Larson - JSM

 

[mailmandan]

Nowhere do you see the word "Rapture," however, I understand the revelation of the scripture.

We don’t need to see the word “rapture” in the Bible to understand what “caught up” means in 1 Thessalonians 4:17, even though people argue over the timing of this “catching away.”

 

[Endoscopy]

Because he preached another gospel he was double cursed and not saved.

You are obviously ignorant of what he was. He preached the gospel message in every sermon. You are the one who is cursed with that blatant condemnation done without real facts. You read between the lines what you wanted to believe and spouted pure lying garbage. Shame on you. You need to repent!!

 

[Endoscopy]

We don’t need to see the word “rapture” in the Bible to understand what “caught up” means in 1 Thessalonians 4:17, even though people argue over the timing of this “catching away.”

I agree. There are many words used by theologians for an issue. They are not found in the Bible but are used to give the issue a label so people can use it in place of the definition of the issue. Shorthand so to speak!

 

[Quantrill]

What does Brother Paul mean when he says, "...we preach Christ Crucified,..." (1 Cor. 1:23)?

Christians should always be willing and ready to tell the Gospel story, which always involves the death, burial, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus Christ. And many use this verse to assert their loyalty to God and Christ in doing this. Which is fine, as you know what they mean.

I believe Paul was using this in another manner. He was not asserting his determination to be faithful in preaching Jesus Christ. He was bringing an indictment against the Corinthian believers for their failure to mature and advance in the Christian faith.

In the first chapter of Corinthians Paul had identified some of their problems, division being the main one. (1 Cor. 1:10-14) He contrasts the wisdom of God with the wisdom of the world. (1 Cor. 1:18-20) He goes on to say that the simple, foolish preaching of the Gospel to the Jews and Gentiles, who stand in the world's wisdom, is what saves. (1 Cor. 1:21-22)

And concerning this preaching of the Gospel to the lost Jews and Gentiles, Paul says in (1 Cor. 1:23) "But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumbling block, and unto the Greeks foolishness;" And in (1 Cor. 2:2) Paul tells the Corinthians, "For I determined not to know any thing among you save Jesus Christ, and him crucified." In other words, Paul is having to go back to the basics, back to the ABC's.

Paul then contrasts again the wisdom of man and the wisdom of God showing that as believers we have the Spirit of God. And because we have the Spirit of God we are able to know the great hidden mysteries of God. (1Cor. 2:5-16) These truths come from the Spirit of God and are only spiritually discerned.

Then Paul tells them why he could only preach Christ crucified to them. (1 Cor. 3:1-2) "And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. I have fed you with milk,and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able."

Quantrill

 

[MessageOfTheCross]

The only solution for sin, the only answer to sin, is the Cross of Christ

Christ Crucified

That, and that alone, is the Message which will save the sinner, set the captive free, and give the Believer perpetual victory [I Cor. 1:17-18, 23; 2:1-2].

JSM

 

[Endoscopy]

Those who walk in the spirit will always have shortcomings (acts of sin) until the trump sounds. We must rejoice in whatever Glory we are in. God is the potter and we are the clay. He moves us from glory to glory and faith to faith. No man or woman can change their life without the Holy Spirit. Can an Ethiopian change the color of his skin? Can a leopard take away its spots? Neither can you start doing good, for you have always done evil (Jeremiah 13:23). The scripture says before He formed me in my mothers womb He approved me.

This is why we must understand what justification is and why it is the first subject in the book of Romans. It lays down the foundation as I go through sanctification.

Justification gives me the ability to get back up from every failure no matter how many times and stand up and go through this process and learn it. Justification gives us a legal standing with God that is not cancelled because of the acts of sin. So if I fail (and we will) at this same thing a thousand times - God forbid! We are a work in progress. Remember Jesus said I did not come to condemn (John 3:17).

Justification is not what we do, and not what I am, and not what I worked for. It is what Jesus did and my faith in it that gives me the standing with God that I need to carry on my Christian experience. Sometime I do it well, and sometimes I do it not so well, but his justifying Grace will not fail unless my faith fails. It is just if I have never sinned and just if I have always obeyed.

Pastor Loren Larson - JSM

I go with an old wise minister about preaching the Crucifixion. He found he needed to preach the Resurrection. That way the Crucifixion was included. He found preaching Crucifixion the Resurrection might be left out and it was the seal of the Crucifixion. Proof that was the sign of him being the Messiah and God incarnate.

 

[MessageOfTheCross]

I go with an old wise minister about preaching the Crucifixion. He found he needed to preach the Resurrection. That way the Crucifixion was included. He found preaching Crucifixion the Resurrection might be left out and it was the seal of the Crucifixion. Proof that was the sign of him being the Messiah and God incarnate.

While the Resurrection, the Ascension, and the Exaltation of Christ were of utmost significance, still, these tremendous attributes were the result of what Jesus did at the Cross. This means that it was and is the Cross, which made and makes it all possible.

JSM

"…, Behold the Lamb of God (Christ Crucified - 1 Cor. 1:23), which taketh away the sin of the world (John 1:29, 1 Cor. 1:23, 1 Cor. 2:2).

“Is the Atonement found solely in the Cross or the Resurrection?”

The old wise minister is sending strange fire (Lev. 10:1).

 

[Dino246]

While the Resurrection, the Ascension, and the Exaltation of Christ were of utmost significance, still, these tremendous attributes were the result of what Jesus did at the Cross. This means that it was and is the Cross, which made and makes it all possible.

JSM

"…, Behold the Lamb of God (Christ Crucified - 1 Cor. 1:23), which taketh away the sin of the world (John 1:29, 1 Cor. 1:23, 1 Cor. 2:2).

“Is the Atonement found solely in the Cross or the Resurrection?”

The old wise minister is sending strange fire (Lev. 10:1).

Christ's sacrifice on the cross secured our peace. His resurrection secured our hope. They go together, and each is incomplete without the other.

Your comment about "strange fire" is fit for birdcage lining.

 

[Nehemiah6]

What does Brother Paul mean when he says, "...we preach Christ Crucified,..." (1 Cor. 1:23)?

The heart of the Gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ (1 Cor 15:1-4). "We preach Christ crucified" is the first part of the Gospel message. People need to hear. understand, and believe that Christ died for their sins according to the Scripture, that He was buried, and rose again the third day according to the Scriptures, for their justification.

But there are multiple facets to the crucifixion of Christ, and probably do not all get the full attention they deserve. A full exposition of Isaiah 53 might begin to do justice to the meaning of "we preach Christ crucified", which implies "Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world". But there are also many other New Testament revelations which must be included.

 

[Nehemiah6]

“Is the Atonement found solely in the Cross or the Resurrection?”

You are undoubtedly a fan of Jimmy Swaggart, therefore you are introducing a FALSE DICHOTOMY HERE.

The Cross without the Resurrection is meaningless. The Resurrection without the Cross is also meaningless. So let's stick to God's plan of salvation, not some distortion of the Gospel.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

What does Brother Paul mean when he says, "...we preach Christ Crucified,..." (1 Cor. 1:23)?

I think he was saying CHRIST Is the messiah.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

It was and is the Cross, which made and makes it all possible

I prefer to say It was JESUS shedding HIS blood by death ON a cross so as not to have people thinking the word cross Is to be more emphasized than JESUS although I agree with you I just wouldn't want people to get confused with the use of the word,cross.

 

[Quantrill]

To build on what I said in post (#87), compare Paul's letter to the Romans. It was quite the opposite of the Corinthian church. The Roman church were a group of believers known through out the world for their faith. (Rom. 1:8)

And what did Paul say to them? (Rom. 1:3-4) "Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh, And declared to be the Son of God with power according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead."

No mention there of 'Christ crucified'. Paul jumped from the incarnation to the resurrection. Why? Because he was writing to a people that were walking in the power of the Holy Spirit. Walking on resurrection ground.

Quantrill

 

[seed_time_harvest]

The only solution for sin, the only answer to sin, is the Cross of Christ

let me simplify what your post Is saying so that people will not look at what you are saying as If It Is mysterious.

Man could not fulfill the law(GOD's perfect standard of righteousness)In his own strength because of the weakness of his flesh.Paul wrote,I delight In the law of GOD after the Inward man but I see another law warring against the law of my mind and bringing me Into captivity to the law of sin whichIn my flesh.

GOD will only accept perfection and man because he was carnal sold under sin could not fulfill the law so then GOD sent HIS WORD to earth manifested In the flesh to pay for the sins of the world.

GOD being righteous shed HIS blood and died on a cross satisfying the demand of the law which meant death and took the sin that we would have had to take.

 

[Dino246]

I prefer to say It was JESUS shedding HIS blood by death ON a cross so as not to have people thinking the word cross Is to be more emphasized than JESUS although I agree with you I just wouldn't want people to get confused with the use of the word,cross.

I’ve been telling him that for weeks. His most engaging response has been to say indirectly that I’ve been turned over to Satan. 🙄

 

[Endoscopy]

While the Resurrection, the Ascension, and the Exaltation of Christ were of utmost significance, still, these tremendous attributes were the result of what Jesus did at the Cross. This means that it was and is the Cross, which made and makes it all possible.

JSM

"…, Behold the Lamb of God (Christ Crucified - 1 Cor. 1:23), which taketh away the sin of the world (John 1:29, 1 Cor. 1:23, 1 Cor. 2:2).

“Is the Atonement found solely in the Cross or the Resurrection?”

The old wise minister is sending strange fire (Lev. 10:1).

You are ignoring the fact that Jesus said the sign of him being the Messiah was after 3 days he would rise again. This is of utmost importance since it validates what was accomplished on the cross. Thus the resurrection must be included to validate the cross.

 

[Endoscopy]

While the Resurrection, the Ascension, and the Exaltation of Christ were of utmost significance, still, these tremendous attributes were the result of what Jesus did at the Cross. This means that it was and is the Cross, which made and makes it all possible.

JSM

"…, Behold the Lamb of God (Christ Crucified - 1 Cor. 1:23), which taketh away the sin of the world (John 1:29, 1 Cor. 1:23, 1 Cor. 2:2).

“Is the Atonement found solely in the Cross or the Resurrection?”

The old wise minister is sending strange fire (Lev. 10:1).

Ridiculous attempt to discredit a great minister of the word you know nothing about and who preached the gospel message every time he was in the pulpit. Bow your head in shame!!

Stick it in your ear.