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Thanks magenta..glad to see you back on
My turn to ask you two questions, and I want a straight answer:
Do you Believe that Works are Part of Salvation, thus you are not saved until After a sufficient number of works?
Or, do you believe you are saved as a Gift of GOD, totally apart from Works, and thus Works come AFTER SALVATION, and therefore works are Part of GOD's LOVE poured into your Heart (Rom. 5:5) the Day you genuinely Believed, receiving Him as LORD meaning Master?
A simple yes or no will do on both Questions.
The Faith of the Centurion
5 When Jesus had entered Capernaum, a centurion came to him, asking for help. 6 “Lord,” he said, “my servant lies at home paralyzed, suffering terribly.”
7 Jesus said to him, “Shall I come and heal him?”
8 The centurion replied, “Lord, I do not deserve to have you come under my roof. But JUST SAY THE WORD., and my servant will be healed. 9 For I myself am a man under authority, with soldiers under me. I tell this one, ‘Go,’ and he goes; and that one, ‘Come,’ and he comes. I say to my servant, ‘Do this,’ and he does it.”
10 When Jesus heard this, he was amazed and said to those following him, “Truly I tell you, I have not found anyone in Israel with such great faith. 11 I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. 12 But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”
13 Then Jesus said to the centurion, “Go! Let it be done just as you believed it would.” And his servant was healed at that moment.
IS THIS THE KIND OF FAITH THiS “WALKING DEAD” THEOLOGY TEACHES?
DO THEY ACKNOWLEDGE AUTHORITY WHENEVER THEY SAY THAT OBEDIENCE TO GOD IS NEVER A PART OF SALVATION?
romans 13
13 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.
6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.
...DO THEY SAY TO GOD, “JUST SAY THE WORD…?
NO! THEY WOULD REJECT THE WORD AND BELIEVE RATHER ON FALSE MAN MADE DOCTRINES.
THE LORD JESUS SAID;
matthew 19
17 “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.”
john 14
15 “If you love me, keep my commands
luke 6
46 “Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say?
john 12
47 “If anyone hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge that person. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world. 48 There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the last day. 49 For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken. 50 I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say.”
5 When Jesus had entered Capernaum, a centurion came to him, asking for help. 6 “Lord,” he said, “my servant lies at home paralyzed, suffering terribly.”
7 Jesus said to him, “Shall I come and heal him?”
8 The centurion replied, “Lord, I do not deserve to have you come under my roof. But JUST SAY THE WORD., and my servant will be healed. 9 For I myself am a man under authority, with soldiers under me. I tell this one, ‘Go,’ and he goes; and that one, ‘Come,’ and he comes. I say to my servant, ‘Do this,’ and he does it.”
10 When Jesus heard this, he was amazed and said to those following him, “Truly I tell you, I have not found anyone in Israel with such great faith. 11 I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. 12 But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”
13 Then Jesus said to the centurion, “Go! Let it be done just as you believed it would.” And his servant was healed at that moment.
IS THIS THE KIND OF FAITH THiS “WALKING DEAD” THEOLOGY TEACHES?
DO THEY ACKNOWLEDGE AUTHORITY WHENEVER THEY SAY THAT OBEDIENCE TO GOD IS NEVER A PART OF SALVATION?
romans 13
13 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.
6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.
...DO THEY SAY TO GOD, “JUST SAY THE WORD…?
NO! THEY WOULD REJECT THE WORD AND BELIEVE RATHER ON FALSE MAN MADE DOCTRINES.
THE LORD JESUS SAID;
matthew 19
17 “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.”
john 14
15 “If you love me, keep my commands
luke 6
46 “Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say?
john 12
47 “If anyone hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge that person. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world. 48 There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the last day. 49 For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken. 50 I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say.”
Hi VCO, good questions. Most will know my answers but I will state them any way.
Questions:
#1, Do you Believe that Works are Part of Salvation - "No" I do not believe works are a part of Salvation. The bible tells me I was dead in my trespasses and sins, a dead man has no ability to do anything. Also I believe God gave me the ability to believe, belief is a gift from God as well. I am a Monergist through and through, a Christian can thank God for everything they have including our eternal salvation.
Our position in Christ is "Justified" before God, works come after we are saved which is our "practice" our daily walk with Jesus.
1Corinthians4:7
For who makes you different from anyone else? What do you have that you did not receive? And if you did receive it, why do you boast as though you did not? I thought I was a pretty cool guy until the bible told me different. My straight answer is, "No"
Epheasians2:1
"As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins,"
#2, works are Part of GOD's LOVE poured into your Heart (Rom. 5:5). My answer is "Yes", Romans5:1,2 was my memory verse that I recited at my baptism, I never can forget that moment.
Romans5:1,2
1) Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2) through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we boast in the hope of the glory of God.
God bless!
Questions:
#1, Do you Believe that Works are Part of Salvation - "No" I do not believe works are a part of Salvation. The bible tells me I was dead in my trespasses and sins, a dead man has no ability to do anything. Also I believe God gave me the ability to believe, belief is a gift from God as well. I am a Monergist through and through, a Christian can thank God for everything they have including our eternal salvation.
Our position in Christ is "Justified" before God, works come after we are saved which is our "practice" our daily walk with Jesus.
1Corinthians4:7
For who makes you different from anyone else? What do you have that you did not receive? And if you did receive it, why do you boast as though you did not? I thought I was a pretty cool guy until the bible told me different. My straight answer is, "No"
Epheasians2:1
"As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins,"
#2, works are Part of GOD's LOVE poured into your Heart (Rom. 5:5). My answer is "Yes", Romans5:1,2 was my memory verse that I recited at my baptism, I never can forget that moment.
Romans5:1,2
1) Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2) through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we boast in the hope of the glory of God.
God bless!
It is good to see you back sis !
I hope you are well I see y'all are still going strong here
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Thank you EG!!! I hope you are well
I see y'all are still going strong here Remember the fun we had approaching the 50,000th post? Now we are well on our way to 50,000 pages
I hope you are well I see y'all are still going strong here
Remember the fun we had approaching the 50,000th post? Now we are well on our way to 50,000 pages
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Thank you EG!!! I hope you are well
I see y'all are still going strong here Remember the fun we had approaching the 50,000th post? Now we are well on our way to 50,000 pages
I hope you are well I see y'all are still going strong here
Remember the fun we had approaching the 50,000th post? Now we are well on our way to 50,000 pages
I know right,, it keeps going and going and going, Like energizer. lol
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