Can no longer separate sex from sin

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Hats off to History Princess first! So much boldness in bringing up this topic. Obviously, big shout out to others who gave decent and best explanation.

My comment would be; whether you meet therapist/someone who could help you or not. Don't forget to pray and seek for answers. I am confident, eventually your confusions will be cleared. Good luck!
Thanks. I didn't see anyone else bringing it up, so I decided to do it myself. Nothing good has ever come from keeping things like this secret. Church should be a place where nothing is taboo to discuss.
 
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To everyone who reads this, after the unveiling of the decades of abuse by hundreds of priests in Pennsylvania, my position is all the more firmly entrenched.

The fact that sin exists is not an excuse. If it were, we shouldn't have any laws, because people are gonna steal anyway. No. Sin may exist, but we're called to curb it at every opportunity. I no longer simply want prayer, I want action.

I know what I'm about to say may sound unrealistic, but I don't care if it is. It needs to be said, to at least offer food for thought. And it seems I'm the only one bold enough to suggest it, because I have the benefit of never having been in a romantic relationship. We must not allow our "hearts" to cloud our heads. The heart is dangerous and deceitful. We need to stop choosing feelings over facts. Facts do not care about feelings.

I think we need to cure the disease rather than just treating the symptoms. For too long we've just been treating the symptoms. Sex and sexuality is too much of a cancer to allow to exist. Whether or not it wasn't originally meant to be used in such terrible, evil ways is irrelevant. The more I hear of stories such as the one in Pennsylvania, the more convicted and convinced I am.

I know what I'm saying may sound unrealistic and improbable. But I don't care. We need to put aside our own selfish ambitions and wants. Without sex and the sex drive, there would be no porn, no molesting of children, no abuse of adults, no need for human trafficking, no unwanted pregnancies, no STDs, no broken hearts and broken relationships. We would have a more peaceful and civilized society rather than one that acts like animals.

You can't tell me that every one of those things is not terrible. I will not buy it for one second. No matter how many people may say, and no matter how much the Bible may say about sex being a good thing, the fact is, we won't be having sex in heaven. So clearly, God thinks of it as a problem as well. He takes sexual sin and crimes gravely seriously. They attack the spirit, soul, and body, all at once.

If there ever comes a drug that suppresses the sex drive, I will be all for advocating for its wide, mandatory use. You may say, "But we wouldn't be able to have intimacy without it." We don't need sex or the sex drive to have intimacy. Asexual people prove it. Not to mention, the only practical use of sex is for reproduction. But now that we have the option of in-vitro fertilization, we really don't need sex anymore.

You can call me radical and crazy, but I'm not the one who had to learn all these things the hard way. I'm willing to see the world not as how I want it to be, but how it really is: cold, cruel, ruthless, hostile, unforgiving, and unmerciful. We can't trust our feelings when it comes to things like this. It's time for us to grow up. Sex is not a right.

If I'm the only one who thinks this, so be it. It at least feels good to get out, even if no one agrees.
 

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To everyone who reads this, after the unveiling of the decades of abuse by hundreds of priests in Pennsylvania, my position is all the more firmly entrenched.

The fact that sin exists is not an excuse. If it were, we shouldn't have any laws, because people are gonna steal anyway. No. Sin may exist, but we're called to curb it at every opportunity. I no longer simply want prayer, I want action.

I know what I'm about to say may sound unrealistic, but I don't care if it is. It needs to be said, to at least offer food for thought. And it seems I'm the only one bold enough to suggest it, because I have the benefit of never having been in a romantic relationship. We must not allow our "hearts" to cloud our heads. The heart is dangerous and deceitful. We need to stop choosing feelings over facts. Facts do not care about feelings.

I think we need to cure the disease rather than just treating the symptoms. For too long we've just been treating the symptoms. Sex and sexuality is too much of a cancer to allow to exist. Whether or not it wasn't originally meant to be used in such terrible, evil ways is irrelevant. The more I hear of stories such as the one in Pennsylvania, the more convicted and convinced I am.

I know what I'm saying may sound unrealistic and improbable. But I don't care. We need to put aside our own selfish ambitions and wants. Without sex and the sex drive, there would be no porn, no molesting of children, no abuse of adults, no need for human trafficking, no unwanted pregnancies, no STDs, no broken hearts and broken relationships. We would have a more peaceful and civilized society rather than one that acts like animals.

You can't tell me that every one of those things is not terrible. I will not buy it for one second. No matter how many people may say, and no matter how much the Bible may say about sex being a good thing, the fact is, we won't be having sex in heaven. So clearly, God thinks of it as a problem as well. He takes sexual sin and crimes gravely seriously. They attack the spirit, soul, and body, all at once.

If there ever comes a drug that suppresses the sex drive, I will be all for advocating for its wide, mandatory use. You may say, "But we wouldn't be able to have intimacy without it." We don't need sex or the sex drive to have intimacy. Asexual people prove it. Not to mention, the only practical use of sex is for reproduction. But now that we have the option of in-vitro fertilization, we really don't need sex anymore.

You can call me radical and crazy, but I'm not the one who had to learn all these things the hard way. I'm willing to see the world not as how I want it to be, but how it really is: cold, cruel, ruthless, hostile, unforgiving, and unmerciful. We can't trust our feelings when it comes to things like this. It's time for us to grow up. Sex is not a right.

If I'm the only one who thinks this, so be it. It at least feels good to get out, even if no one agrees.
If what you say is true, every human on earth must commit suicide.

Of course not. That would be ridiculous.

I'm sorry a man hasn't shown interest in you. I guess your misery wants company.

Just quit it. You're suggesting using force to basically cause physical and psychological harm to other people because you have fixated on human sex drive being evil.

It's not.

If your handle on this site is a true indicator of your interests, you would already know, civilization wouldn't have developed without the male sex drive, building great things, to impress females.

Jave you ever considered, an organization that requires it's members to sustain celibacy, attracts sexual deviants?

Your mandate to administer drugs to other people, to destroy their sexuality......
Send those fools my way, I'll send them to their crying mothers in a box.

You have no comprehension of the things you speak of, and this isn't a symptom of your autism. You have other problems going on.

You need to get yourself straight. See a professional.

You talk about using force or other coercive tactics to affect your agenda, I ain't going along with it.

You have continued to show, your ability to reason is slipping away.

This thread probably should be locked.

Go see a professional for whatever is ailing you.

Goodnight History Princess. Good luck.

I'm going to go impress a woman I can get along with, and would like to have sex with me the rest of our lives.

Out....
 
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If what you say is true, every human on earth must commit suicide.

Of course not. That would be ridiculous.

I'm sorry a man hasn't shown interest in you. I guess your misery wants company.

Just quit it. You're suggesting using force to basically cause physical and psychological harm to other people because you have fixated on human sex drive being evil.

It's not.

If your handle on this site is a true indicator of your interests, you would already know, civilization wouldn't have developed without the male sex drive, building great things, to impress females.

Jave you ever considered, an organization that requires it's members to sustain celibacy, attracts sexual deviants?

Your mandate to administer drugs to other people, to destroy their sexuality......
Send those fools my way, I'll send them to their crying mothers in a box.

You have no comprehension of the things you speak of, and this isn't a symptom of your autism. You have other problems going on.

You need to get yourself straight. See a professional.

You talk about using force or other coercive tactics to affect your agenda, I ain't going along with it.

You have continued to show, your ability to reason is slipping away.

This thread probably should be locked.

Go see a professional for whatever is ailing you.

Goodnight History Princess. Good luck.

I'm going to go impress a woman I can get along with, and would like to have sex with me the rest of our lives.

Out....
This isn't a petty issue of being bitter about a man having not seen me. Like I said, I'm glad that hasn't happened. And if we can't use force or coercive tactics to enforce an agenda, we should have no police force. There should just be straight up anarchy.

I've seen 3 proffesionals, none of them have been able to help me.

Go ahead, I support your right.
 

Tommy379

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This isn't a petty issue of being bitter about a man having not seen me. Like I said, I'm glad that hasn't happened. And if we can't use force or coercive tactics to enforce an agenda, we should have no police force. There should just be straight up anarchy.

I've seen 3 proffesionals, none of them have been able to help me.

Go ahead, I support your right.
If that's your agenda, you will never find the manpower to enforce it. Period. You won't find enough fat gender studies students to pull it off.
 
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If that's your agenda, you will never find the manpower to enforce it. Period. You won't find enough fat gender studies students to pull it off.
I know. And I don't care. It feels good to get it out somewhere, even if people radically disagree with me. It's better than just sitting and praying and not doing anything and being powerless.
 

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I know. And I don't care. It feels good to get it out somewhere, even if people radically disagree with me. It's better than just sitting and praying and not doing anything and being powerless.
Who's radical?
 
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By the way, men may have been able to build great things, but lust and "natural" drives more often than not tended to be their downfall.
 
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History princess needs a little excitement in her life. Can you help?
I have more than enough unnecessary "excitement," if by which you mean unwillingly inundated with the nonstop news that never shuts up.