Can no longer separate sex from sin

[Enocish]

And let me ask you this. If God wanted a relationship with me, why make it ten times harder for me than the average person?

Food for thought.
I believe GOD gets blamed sometimes for what the devil do.
I also believe the devil sometimes get credit for what GOD did.
When I hear things like the above quote, I immediately think of Ecclesiastics,
were GOD said to the man that walks under the sun, ( the flesh man ).
That we all face the same problems, That none of us face anything that is not common to any other man. and GOD will not put more on us than we can bear.

I can assure you, you are not the only one to experience this loop, I have been there a time or two, just don't stay there,
Now I have a choice to make. I can sympathize with you or I can trust his word to be true.
If I am to believe the bible, I can not help but think it may not be GOD that's making it ten times Harder, Now I'm not sure who else you could blame. I'm sure it's not your fault, I would take the blame but I just met you.
Now if I sympathize with you. then we probably don't need the bible anymore. Cause GOD tells us something different than what you are saying.
I'm on the fence with this, Maybe you can persuade me one way or the other.

Your thoughts

 

[HistoryPrincess]

I honestly don't see how sex is supposed to be a good thing when the sex trafficking industry profits literally over $150 billion. Yes, sex makes babies, but we now have in-vitro fertilization. Therefore, we really do not need it anymore. For every one marriage where it's rejoiced in, there are thousands if not millions who are abused and treated like trash with it.

I don't care if it's "sin nature." When something like that causes that much pain to society and the world, the only reasonable option is to get rid of it, get rid of the drive altogether. The whole thing is more trouble than it's worth. Sex tends to cause more pain than bullet wounds or stab wounds ever will.

Besides, God is not obligated to fulfill our "deepest desires." Call me cynical, but I call it being realistic and growing up. Not everyone gets a happily ever after. Not everyone is completely satisfied with God. The only good reason to become a Christian is to get hellfire insurance. It doesn't make you a better person. It doesn't make you more moral, happy, or fulfilled. It doesn't make you richer or healthier or anything. Nothing will ever make the fallen nature of this world go away until Jesus returns. So why not just deal with it?

Besides, God only cares about glorifying himself. My happiness in the long run is unimportant. Other people say they don't want to be robots, but I do. I'm tired of feeling guilty for making the wrong choices, real or imagined. I've only known love in meeting obligations to others. Emotions are unreliable and dangerous. They're more trouble than they're worth. Love and happiness and whatnot are very nice things, but it doesn't solve all your problems.

 

[Enocish]

I honestly don't see how sex is supposed to be a good thing when the sex trafficking industry profits literally over $150 billion. Yes, sex makes babies, but we now have in-vitro fertilization. Therefore, we really do not need it anymore. For every one marriage where it's rejoiced in, there are thousands if not millions who are abused and treated like trash with it.

I don't care if it's "sin nature." When something like that causes that much pain to society and the world, the only reasonable option is to get rid of it, get rid of the drive altogether. The whole thing is more trouble than it's worth. Sex tends to cause more pain than bullet wounds or stab wounds ever will.

Besides, God is not obligated to fulfill our "deepest desires." Call me cynical, but I call it being realistic and growing up. Not everyone gets a happily ever after. Not everyone is completely satisfied with God. The only good reason to become a Christian is to get hellfire insurance. It doesn't make you a better person. It doesn't make you more moral, happy, or fulfilled. It doesn't make you richer or healthier or anything. Nothing will ever make the fallen nature of this world go away until Jesus returns. So why not just deal with it?

Besides, God only cares about glorifying himself. My happiness in the long run is unimportant. Other people say they don't want to be robots, but I do. I'm tired of feeling guilty for making the wrong choices, real or imagined. I've only known love in meeting obligations to others. Emotions are unreliable and dangerous. They're more trouble than they're worth. Love and happiness and whatnot are very nice things, but it doesn't solve all your problems.

Good to see you back, History Princess.
I'm going to make mention of a couple of things.
1. You are right the sex industry makes a lot of money, that's not all from one person, But because of GOD's bigger plan it still can't be done away with.
2. You should not feel bad about something you have absolutely no control over. You didn't cause it and you can't fix it. And I believe if you were given that power to fix it, GOD would intervene and stop you from doing away with it. It does serve a very important purpose in GODS plan. It is just for this earth age. It's just that people abuse it. And that's for a reason also. But that's not GODS design that's the enemy fighting against GOD.
3. It's not for everyone. so maybe you shouldn't have sex.
4. you might someday meet that mystery man, then you will be glad that GOD wouldn't let get rid of sex,
5. Your life isn't over yet, remember colonel sanders didn't start living till he retired.

 

[HistoryPrincess]

Good to see you back, History Princess.
I'm going to make mention of a couple of things.
1. You are right the sex industry makes a lot of money, that's not all from one person, But because of GOD's bigger plan it still can't be done away with.
2. You should not feel bad about something you have absolutely no control over. You didn't cause it and you can't fix it. And I believe if you were given that power to fix it, GOD would intervene and stop you from doing away with it. It does serve a very important purpose in GODS plan. It is just for this earth age. It's just that people abuse it. And that's for a reason also. But that's not GODS design that's the enemy fighting against GOD.
3. It's not for everyone. so maybe you shouldn't have sex.
4. you might someday meet that mystery man, then you will be glad that GOD wouldn't let get rid of sex,
5. Your life isn't over yet, remember colonel sanders didn't start living till he retired.

1. So...God's bigger plan involves millions if not billions of people being treated like garbage and having their innocence stolen and their psyches destroyed? I've had enough of this "bigger plan" nonsense.

2. I know. I know there's nothing I can do. I'm just one person. I can't do anything. And so what if it's not God's design? It's not gonna be God's design when we get to heaven so what's the point?

3. I know. Problem is my body doesn't agree.

4. And maybe I won't and will just have to get used to being alone and lonely.

5. It may not be over in terms of biology, but once you become an adult, all fun and happiness and freedom gets tossed out the window and you start exchanging school for work, paying bills, and having your life revolve around and being constantly stressed by MONEY.

 

[Enocish]

1. So...God's bigger plan involves millions if not billions of people being treated like garbage and having their innocence stolen and their psyches destroyed? I've had enough of this "bigger plan" nonsense.

2. I know. I know there's nothing I can do. I'm just one person. I can't do anything. And so what if it's not God's design? It's not gonna be God's design when we get to heaven so what's the point?

3. I know. Problem is my body doesn't agree.

4. And maybe I won't and will just have to get used to being alone and lonely.

5. It may not be over in terms of biology, but once you become an adult, all fun and happiness and freedom gets tossed out the window and you start exchanging school for work, paying bills, and having your life revolve around and being constantly stressed by MONEY.

1. No, it's not, But then it's not GOD doing all this stuff to millions and Billions of people, It's man, He gave man a way to stop it, read Leviticus, But they're not doing it, and it seems you are blaming GOD. I would caution you against that. A word to the wise

2. It's true you are just one person But with Christ, you outnumber them, Just like MADD ( Mother Against Drunk Drivers ), start campaigning for murders to be put to death shortly after they have been convicted, also the child molesters. it's part of GODS law, again read Leviticus, You can't blame GOD if we are not following his laws. also, GOD doesn't just do things without a reason, Now this is where my knowledge lacks, but I believe sex replaces something we did in the first world age, and it will be replaced in the third world age with something. Just sayin.
in this world age ( which is the second one ) sex is used to pass the angels through this age, Just like GOD came through Mary's womb and lived on earth as Jesus, Only his was an immaculate conception, we angels have to also pass through this world through womb of women only we have to do birds and be method, So whether or not you have had enough of the bigger picture nonsense or not. It will not be done away with till it's done, But just hang in there were almost done.

3. Not sure what to say, I don't know your body, You should check into vitamins.

4. Maybe or you change your way of thinking and just accept that God has everything under control, see 5

5. All I'm gonna say is skoolie, you do the research.
you can start here and take it from there

your thoughts

 

[HistoryPrincess]

We are not angels.

It's been "almost done" for 2000 YEARS.

My mom says it's normal for my body to feel hormonal. But as a Christian and a virgin, it only provides a constant source of temptation, one that I didn't ask for. And I'm sorry, but I resent it.

It's easy to say it's a good thing when you're married, but try living without a desire being fed for years on end with no relief. It's easy to say a feast is good when you're invited, but try not being invited and instead having to live on lukewarm water and stale crackers.

I don't care what anyone says, until I'm allowed to see it as a good thing when I'm married, until then I'm just gonna see it as a bad thing. Oh no, wait, when you're single, it's a good thing as long as it's "dormant," i.e. pretending it doesn't exist.

People say, "You can have intimacy without marriage!" That's true. I agree with that. But look at today's society. Whether you like or not, due to our society's bleak social conditions, even inside the church, telling someone to be single means basically telling them to be lonely. Every touch on every person nowadays has to "mean" something. I'm serious, that's how things are now.

For another thing, a lot of people are lonely. We're always busy and always moving. Who really has time for relationships in general anymore? And for people like me, who already have a lot of trouble just forming relationships, this is practically the nail in the coffin. As for God, I don't want to have a "relationship" with an ageless deity who's nothing like me. It feels lifeless and unappealing. He can say he loves me all he wants, but I'll just say, "So what? You love everyone."

 

[zeroturbulence]

If you really want to extinguish the temptations, there are some things that one can do, but they are not healthy... In fact, a strong sex drive is an indicator of good physical health.

So, the way to extinguish sexual temptation is to do things that will degrade your physical health.... Eat a lot of junk food. Stay up late every night. Don't exercise. Put on a significant amount of weight. Overdose on caffeine (coffee). Stop taking vitamins. Do very little physical activity during the day. Party with your friends every night. Drink alcohol.

This isn't meant as a joke even though it sounds like it might be. Those truly will diminish sexual temptation. But the best way to diminish it is to put yourself under unbearable stress. The kind of stress that leads to depression. That will destroy all sexual feelings. I'm sorry if this sounds sarcastic. I'm not being sarcastic. These things really will decrease or eliminate the desire for sex.

 

[Tommy379]

If you really want to extinguish the temptations, there are some things that one can do, but they are not healthy... In fact, a strong sex drive is an indicator of good physical health.

So, the way to extinguish sexual temptation is to do things that will degrade your physical health.... Eat a lot of junk food. Stay up late every night. Don't exercise. Put on a significant amount of weight. Overdose on caffeine (coffee). Stop taking vitamins. Do very little physical activity during the day. Party with your friends every night. Drink alcohol.

This isn't meant as a joke even though it sounds like it might be. Those truly will diminish sexual temptation. But the best way to diminish it is to put yourself under unbearable stress. The kind of stress that leads to depression. That will destroy all sexual feelings. I'm sorry if this sounds sarcastic. I'm not being sarcastic. These things really will decrease or eliminate the desire for sex.

I've done all this, still functioning like I was 15.

 

[HistoryPrincess]

If you really want to extinguish the temptations, there are some things that one can do, but they are not healthy... In fact, a strong sex drive is an indicator of good physical health.

So, the way to extinguish sexual temptation is to do things that will degrade your physical health.... Eat a lot of junk food. Stay up late every night. Don't exercise. Put on a significant amount of weight. Overdose on caffeine (coffee). Stop taking vitamins. Do very little physical activity during the day. Party with your friends every night. Drink alcohol.

This isn't meant as a joke even though it sounds like it might be. Those truly will diminish sexual temptation. But the best way to diminish it is to put yourself under unbearable stress. The kind of stress that leads to depression. That will destroy all sexual feelings. I'm sorry if this sounds sarcastic. I'm not being sarcastic. These things really will decrease or eliminate the desire for sex.

I don't care if it's an indicator of good physical health. It's distressing and I don't want to feed it, I don't want to take care of it, I just want it gone.

I do stay up late almost every night, but that's because I've had sleep problems for years. I have to have a lot of caffeine just to make it through the day. I don't exercise very much because I've never been a really physical person. As for putting on weight, it's nearly impossible because I have a small appetite and my body apparently likes to be skinny, it burns so much fat.

I deal with stress and depression often and I still have those feelings. If anything, it just makes them go up.

 

[zeroturbulence]

I don't care if it's an indicator of good physical health. It's distressing and I don't want to feed it, I don't want to take care of it, I just want it gone.

I do stay up late almost every night, but that's because I've had sleep problems for years. I have to have a lot of caffeine just to make it through the day. I don't exercise very much because I've never been a really physical person. As for putting on weight, it's nearly impossible because I have a small appetite and my body apparently likes to be skinny, it burns so much fat.

I deal with stress and depression often and I still have those feelings. If anything, it just makes them go up.

Having a body that burns fat efficiently means that you are very healthy, so my suggestions wouldn't help unless you did them to an extreme like eat a gallon of ice cream a day or don't sleep for a week... and of course that would be ridiculous, not to mention horrible for your health. Have you considered hypnosis?

 

[HistoryPrincess]

Having a body that burns fat efficiently means that you are very healthy, so my suggestions wouldn't help unless you did them to an extreme like eat a gallon of ice cream a day or don't sleep for a week... and of course that would be ridiculous, not to mention horrible for your health. Have you considered hypnosis?

Seriously, why would I do anything you said? I'm not stupid.

 

[zeroturbulence]

Seriously, why would I do anything you said? I'm not stupid.

I know you're not stupid, but I thought you were desperate.

 

[HistoryPrincess]

I know you're not stupid, but I thought you were desperate.

I tend to exaggerate. And just because I may sound like it doesn't mean I actually am.

 

[Enocish]

We are not angels.

It's been "almost done" for 2000 YEARS.

We are not angels.
Yes, we are.
can you prove otherwise?

It's been "almost done" for 2000 YEARS.
That seems kinda silly,
almost done for 2000 years?
how did you learn that?

 

[Tommy379]

I wonder what happened to historyprincess goal from a year ago, of getting married.

 

[melita916]

I wonder what happened to historyprincess goal from a year ago, of getting married.

Ah plans/goals change sometimes. Back in the day, I wanted children.

Now? Not really lol

 

[Tommy379]

Go make babies

Ah plans/goals change sometimes. Back in the day, I wanted children.

Now? Not really lol

 

[Jewel5712]

Lol..dont beat yourself up too badly..i commend your abstinence..its hard..sexual drive and desire IS normal but our society is bombarded and obsessed with sex and not in a healthy pure way as God intended..so you have classic struggle of the mind betwen good and evil..satan uses smut to twust ur mind into believing certain things that arent true..tgats what Satan does..but focus your mind on whats good and true and youll find in God..a NEW meaning of love and intimacy that has nothing to do with sex...but you have to figure what thats all about first before you can truly love another in a healthy way..and as far as a wedding night..maybe youll marry another virgin or someone who is patient and loving with your lack of experience and will actually RESPECT you MORE for having waited to give yourself to them...thats part of the BEAUTY of marriage..growing together physically as well...get healthy in your spirit first..

My aunt was a virgin on her wedding night..32 yrs old..had prayed to meet a godly man that was a virgin n pure as well..it happened..he was 34!

 

[HistoryPrincess]

My aunt was a virgin on her wedding night..32 yrs old..had prayed to meet a godly man that was a virgin n pure as well..it happened..he was 34!

If only that could happen for the rest of us. I hate to tell you this, but not everyone gets what they want in life. Not everyone gets a "happily ever after."

It's because of this that single people like me are leaving the church in droves. Once you're post-college and single, especially if you're a woman, churches generally don't know what to do with you. We're tired of constantly hearing sermons about what we'll never have. I know I am.

It hurts to hope and it hurts to care, so I stopped. I don't want to waste my life hoping for something that likely will never come.

 

[Enocish]

It's because of this that single people like me are leaving the church in droves.

I thought you said there was no one else like you anywhere, and now they are leaving the church in droves. You need to find one of them and then share your experiences. And maybe together you can find an answer. For your selves that is, I already have an answer that you have rejected. But That's fine. I just wanted to chime in again.
How are you?