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Please stop backpedaling and sidestepping the issue. You stated:
You claim people do not understand you, then post 1 Cor 2:14 as the reason, inferring that people who do not understand you do not have the Spirit. Own what you said.
Also, concerning your phrase "by yourself", the Bible says that God gave apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers, for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, and for the edifying of the body of Christ. There are teachers in the body of Christ for a reason. And the Bible encourages us to not forsake gathering together. Playing the Lone Ranger generally doesn't work out too well.
Also, concerning your phrase "by yourself", the Bible says that God gave apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers, for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, and for the edifying of the body of Christ. There are teachers in the body of Christ for a reason. And the Bible encourages us to not forsake gathering together. Playing the Lone Ranger generally doesn't work out too well.
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I'm not gonna to spell it out here, but I'm sure you know what I am talking about.
You know as well as I and do why you threw that verse out there. So unless you believe others here to be some kind of idiots with no discernment at all, you need to stop with the game.
This thread has went from bad to worse and went off on so many different subjects that I can't keep up with it and it feels like a total waste of my time so I am done with it.
You know as well as I and do why you threw that verse out there. So unless you believe others here to be some kind of idiots with no discernment at all, you need to stop with the game.
This thread has went from bad to worse and went off on so many different subjects that I can't keep up with it and it feels like a total waste of my time so I am done with it.
For fellowship with like-minded believers. It's necessary. Otherwise you'll wind up thinking everyone is against you. Oh, wait...
Nobody needs crucifying... I would suggest you find a church that doesn't crucify you. There's a lot of them out there. You need to find one.
Concerning putting on the full armor of God:
Eph 6:
13) Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14) Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
15) And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16) Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17) And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
18) Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
If you need a little more explanation, let me know.
Nobody needs crucifying... I would suggest you find a church that doesn't crucify you. There's a lot of them out there. You need to find one.
Concerning putting on the full armor of God:
Eph 6:
13) Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14) Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
15) And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16) Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17) And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
18) Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
If you need a little more explanation, let me know.
We are to live out what we preach/believe. I agree with you on that.
But we will always learn more about God and His word. There will always be lessons for us. We should continue to study His word, and one of the many beautiful things about going to fellowship is that we encourage one another and hear what God is doing in someone else’s life. We study the Word together. We worship the Lord together. We spend time together. All for His glory.
We were made for community. We are called brothers and sisters because God has adopted us. And just like brothers and sisters, we will disagree, argue, and have fights lol. But what happens when someone comes against our family? We forget the disagreements and band together to fight off the enemy.
But we will always learn more about God and His word. There will always be lessons for us. We should continue to study His word, and one of the many beautiful things about going to fellowship is that we encourage one another and hear what God is doing in someone else’s life. We study the Word together. We worship the Lord together. We spend time together. All for His glory.
We were made for community. We are called brothers and sisters because God has adopted us. And just like brothers and sisters, we will disagree, argue, and have fights lol. But what happens when someone comes against our family? We forget the disagreements and band together to fight off the enemy.
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1 Corinthians 3:1 1Brothers and sisters, I could not address you as people who live by the Spirit but as people who are still worldly-mere infants in Christ.
The way that you can tell if you are in infancy, is if you are still consciously sinning. And continually asking God for forgiveness. Don't tell that Paul was still sinning because if he was he wouldn't have said this Romans 6:14-15 14For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace. 15What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? By no means!
Romans 6:1 1What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase?
If he was then he was contradicting himself.
The way that you can tell if you are in infancy, is if you are still consciously sinning. And continually asking God for forgiveness. Don't tell that Paul was still sinning because if he was he wouldn't have said this Romans 6:14-15 14For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace. 15What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? By no means!
Romans 6:1 1What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase?
If he was then he was contradicting himself.
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First of all if I can't communicate with you all, I'm not walking into the lions den, in no way will I change my views. You must understand I cannot go back, I have come too far to turn around. I have been through a lot of suffering to get this far. When you are being taught by God, you at taught literally. Like a parent teaching a baby not to do something, God chasten you. I don't care if you don't believe. Heb: 12:6 because the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and he chastens everyone he accepts as his son."
As for the full armor of God. I didn't ask for scripture. I ask what does it mean to you.
As for the full armor of God. I didn't ask for scripture. I ask what does it mean to you.
Paul himself said that he still sinned.
Rom 7:
14) For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
15) For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
16) If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
17) Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
18) For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
19) For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
20) Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
All those verbs are present tense, Paul was not speaking of his former life, before he was saved. What he is doing is explaining the sin nature every single one of us has.
1 Tim 1:
15) This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.
Christians have two natures, the flesh and the spirit, or the old man and the new man. We are to put off the old man and put on the new. Nobody is successful at this 100% of the time. We all succumb to temptations at times. We all sin at times. As we grow in Christ, we will hopefully sin less. But I also submit that the longer a person is a Christian, he'll start to understand that he sins more than he thought he did, and become very grateful for the love and forgiveness of God in Christ. The ONLY person to ever walk this earth who kept himself free of sin was Jesus Christ. EVERYONE else sins.
1 John 1:
8) If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9) If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Rom 7:
14) For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
15) For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
16) If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
17) Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
18) For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
19) For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
20) Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
All those verbs are present tense, Paul was not speaking of his former life, before he was saved. What he is doing is explaining the sin nature every single one of us has.
1 Tim 1:
15) This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.
Christians have two natures, the flesh and the spirit, or the old man and the new man. We are to put off the old man and put on the new. Nobody is successful at this 100% of the time. We all succumb to temptations at times. We all sin at times. As we grow in Christ, we will hopefully sin less. But I also submit that the longer a person is a Christian, he'll start to understand that he sins more than he thought he did, and become very grateful for the love and forgiveness of God in Christ. The ONLY person to ever walk this earth who kept himself free of sin was Jesus Christ. EVERYONE else sins.
1 John 1:
8) If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9) If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
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Listen, its extremely important that we put ourselves in a role of humbling ourselves and learning the word of God by teacher. If you can not submit to a pastor, than you do not have the ability or understanding of submitting yourself to God, which is truly sad. You are not God nor are you a saviour so open yourself up to people who God has called upon to help strengthen your walk. Trust me, we all need it 
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I'm talking about sinning intentionally. Your right Paul was explaining his sinful nature. We all get mad sometimes. Just like Paul got upset and cast out the fortune teller spirit. But Paul would have been contradicting himself when he said Romans 6:14-15 14For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace.
He didn't say he didn't have sin, but it was no longer his master.
If you don't understand that scripture correctly, it will make you think that it is ok to go on sinning.
He didn't say he didn't have sin, but it was no longer his master.
If you don't understand that scripture correctly, it will make you think that it is ok to go on sinning.
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Listen, its extremely important that we put ourselves in a role of humbling ourselves and learning the word of God by teacher. If you can not submit to a pastor, than you do not have the ability or understanding of submitting yourself to God, which is truly sad. You are not God nor are you a saviour so open yourself up to people who God has called upon to help strengthen your walk. Trust me, we all need it
No one cares what the bible says. I have given scripture after scripture and no one cares. What does this scripture mean to you?
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Actually here is the whole verse 1 John 2: 26 -27 26 I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray. 27 As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him.
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But the 'race is not done until it is finished.....so we actually ALWAYS need help....only from a more COMPETENT Teacher After we have left Kindergarten/Nursery/or human teachers who can only do so much (as in worldly churches). I see the example in our every-day lives...as Babies/Infants we have to be cared for by human Carers (Parents, Nurse-maids etc) but when we are out of diapers and walking and talking we need mental tutoring by Professionals....JESUS/YASHUA in the case of the religious-minded. That is why GOD says to assemble on the SABBATH before HIM....it's HIS DAY for teaching Truth. Those who ignore GOD's instructions will run into lies and confusion.
We are never on our own for it is not given to man to direct his own steps ! we either have God or the devil as our mentor.
We are never on our own for it is not given to man to direct his own steps ! we either have God or the devil as our mentor.