-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Jesus said to them, “I did one miracle, and you are all amazed. Yet, because Moses gave you circumcision (though actually it did not come from Moses, but from the patriarchs), you circumcise a boy on the sabbath. Now if a boy can be circumcised on the sabbath so that the law of Moses may not be broken, why are you angry with me for healing a man’s whole body on the sabbath? Stop judging by mere appearances, but instead judge correctly.”
(John 7:21-24)
Genesis 17, Exodus 4, Leviticus 12, Ezekiel 44, Acts 15, 1 Corinthians 7, Galatians 5.
how can this be?
This is what i believe the scriptures support.. Thursday was the first day of unleavened bread which is a Sabbath where no costomary work is to be done..
The scriptures below show that both the weekly sabbath and the first day of unleavened bread are Holy convications where no work is to be done..
Leviticus 23:
3 "Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings. {4} ¶ These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons. {5} In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD’S passover. {6} And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread. {7} In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein."
So at sundown wednesday the passover ended and the next day was the first day of unleavened bread a high sabbath.. Jesus was executed on the day of passover and quickly placed in the tomb at sundown wendesday so he would be buried on the Sabbath day..
The scriptures below show that both the weekly sabbath and the first day of unleavened bread are Holy convications where no work is to be done..
Leviticus 23:
3 "Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings. {4} ¶ These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons. {5} In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD’S passover. {6} And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread. {7} In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein."
So at sundown wednesday the passover ended and the next day was the first day of unleavened bread a high sabbath.. Jesus was executed on the day of passover and quickly placed in the tomb at sundown wendesday so he would be buried on the Sabbath day..
-
3
- Show all
1 Cor. 7:18 Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised.
How can this be, what does this mean? How can a circumcised man be physically "Uncircumcised"?
1 Cor. 10:6 Now these things(Old Testament Writings) were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.
11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
18 Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised.
19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
Duet.10:16 Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.
How can this be, what does this mean? How can a circumcised man be physically "Uncircumcised"?
1 Cor. 10:6 Now these things(Old Testament Writings) were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.
11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
18 Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised.
19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
Duet.10:16 Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.
J
John 1:1,2
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Elohim, and the Word was Elohim.
2 He was in the beginning with Elohim.
John 1:18
No one has ever seen Elohim. The only brought-forth Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He did declare.
So who did Abraham, Moses and Jacob see?
John 8:58
58 Yeshua(Jesus) said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Aḇraham came to be, I am.”
He was the one that was before Abraham
John 15:10,15
10 "If you guard My commands, you shall stay in My love, even as I have guarded My Father’s commands and stay in His love.
15 “No longer do I call you servants, for a servant does not know what his master is doing. But I have called you friends, for all teachingswhich I heard from My Father I have made known to you.
John 15:22
“If I had not come and spoken to them, they would have no sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin.
Isn't it possible Yeshua(Jesus) Is the one who gave the commands on Mt. Sinai.
Yeshua literally means Yahavah saves
So when He says " obey MY commands" we want to look for the words in red.
How many commands do you find in red to justifying all, if it was only 2 wouldn't he say my 2 commands?
Revelation 14:12
12Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Revelation 21:12
and having a great and high wall, having twelve gates, and at the gates twelve messengers, and names written on them, which are those of the twelve tribes of the children of Yisra’ĕl:
This is the Kingdom. Do you see a gate for the gentiles? NO..
I just don't understand how someone can say" I am a gentile, Gods Laws do not apply to me" and still expect to get into Gods Kingdom.
Sounds a lot like rebellion.
Ezekiel 12:1,2
1 And the word of יהוה came to me, saying,
2 “Son of man, you are dwelling in the midst of a rebellious house. They have eyes to see but they have not seen, they have ears to hear but they have not heard, for they are a rebellious house.
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Elohim, and the Word was Elohim.
2 He was in the beginning with Elohim.
John 1:18
No one has ever seen Elohim. The only brought-forth Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He did declare.
So who did Abraham, Moses and Jacob see?
John 8:58
58 Yeshua(Jesus) said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Aḇraham came to be, I am.”
He was the one that was before Abraham
John 15:10,15
10 "If you guard My commands, you shall stay in My love, even as I have guarded My Father’s commands and stay in His love.
15 “No longer do I call you servants, for a servant does not know what his master is doing. But I have called you friends, for all teachingswhich I heard from My Father I have made known to you.
John 15:22
“If I had not come and spoken to them, they would have no sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin.
Isn't it possible Yeshua(Jesus) Is the one who gave the commands on Mt. Sinai.
Yeshua literally means Yahavah saves
So when He says " obey MY commands" we want to look for the words in red.
How many commands do you find in red to justifying all, if it was only 2 wouldn't he say my 2 commands?
Revelation 14:12
12Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Revelation 21:12
and having a great and high wall, having twelve gates, and at the gates twelve messengers, and names written on them, which are those of the twelve tribes of the children of Yisra’ĕl:
This is the Kingdom. Do you see a gate for the gentiles? NO..
I just don't understand how someone can say" I am a gentile, Gods Laws do not apply to me" and still expect to get into Gods Kingdom.
Sounds a lot like rebellion.
Ezekiel 12:1,2
1 And the word of יהוה came to me, saying,
2 “Son of man, you are dwelling in the midst of a rebellious house. They have eyes to see but they have not seen, they have ears to hear but they have not heard, for they are a rebellious house.
-
1
- Show all
J
Isaiah 60:16-22
16 “And you shall drink dry the milk of the gentiles, and shall milk the breast of sovereigns. And you shall know that I, יהוה, your Saviour and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya‛aqoḇ.
17 “Instead of bronze I bring gold, and instead of iron I bring silver, and bronze instead of wood, and iron instead of stones. And I shall make your officers peace, and your magistrates righteousness.
18 “Violence shall no longer be heard in your land, neither wasting nor ruin within your borders. And you shall call your walls Deliverance, and your gates Praise.
19 “No longer is the sun your light by day, nor does the moon give light to you for brightness, but יהוה shall be to you an everlasting light, and your Elohim your comeliness.
20 “No longer does your sun go down, nor your moon withdraw itself, for יהוה shall be your everlasting light, and the days of your mourning shall be ended.
21 “And your people, all of them righteous, shall inherit the earth forever – a branch of My planting, a work of My hands, to be adorned.
22 “The little shall become a thousand, and the small one a strong nation. I, יהוה, shall hasten it in its time.”
16 “And you shall drink dry the milk of the gentiles, and shall milk the breast of sovereigns. And you shall know that I, יהוה, your Saviour and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya‛aqoḇ.
17 “Instead of bronze I bring gold, and instead of iron I bring silver, and bronze instead of wood, and iron instead of stones. And I shall make your officers peace, and your magistrates righteousness.
18 “Violence shall no longer be heard in your land, neither wasting nor ruin within your borders. And you shall call your walls Deliverance, and your gates Praise.
19 “No longer is the sun your light by day, nor does the moon give light to you for brightness, but יהוה shall be to you an everlasting light, and your Elohim your comeliness.
20 “No longer does your sun go down, nor your moon withdraw itself, for יהוה shall be your everlasting light, and the days of your mourning shall be ended.
21 “And your people, all of them righteous, shall inherit the earth forever – a branch of My planting, a work of My hands, to be adorned.
22 “The little shall become a thousand, and the small one a strong nation. I, יהוה, shall hasten it in its time.”
I replied, “How long, sovereign master?” He said,
“Until cities are in ruins and unpopulated,
and houses are uninhabited,
and the land is ruined and devastated,
12 and the Lord has sent the people off to a distant place,
and the very heart of the land is completely abandoned.
13 Even if only a tenth of the people remain in the land, it will again be destroyed, like one of the large sacred trees or an Asherah pole, when a sacred pillar on a high place is thrown down. That sacred pillar symbolizes the special chosen family.”
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+6&version=NET
“Until cities are in ruins and unpopulated,
and houses are uninhabited,
and the land is ruined and devastated,
12 and the Lord has sent the people off to a distant place,
and the very heart of the land is completely abandoned.
13 Even if only a tenth of the people remain in the land, it will again be destroyed, like one of the large sacred trees or an Asherah pole, when a sacred pillar on a high place is thrown down. That sacred pillar symbolizes the special chosen family.”
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+6&version=NET
J
Isaiah 58:13,14
13 “If you do turn back your foot from the Sabbath, from doing your pleasure on My set-apart day, and shall call the Sabbath ‘a delight,’ the set-apart day of YHVH ‘esteemed,’ and shall esteem it, not doing your own ways, nor finding your own pleasure, nor speaking your own words,
14 then you shall delight yourself in YHVH. And I shall cause you to ride on the heights of the earth, and feed you with the inheritance of Ya‛aqoḇ your father. For the mouth of YHVH has spoken!”
13 “If you do turn back your foot from the Sabbath, from doing your pleasure on My set-apart day, and shall call the Sabbath ‘a delight,’ the set-apart day of YHVH ‘esteemed,’ and shall esteem it, not doing your own ways, nor finding your own pleasure, nor speaking your own words,
14 then you shall delight yourself in YHVH. And I shall cause you to ride on the heights of the earth, and feed you with the inheritance of Ya‛aqoḇ your father. For the mouth of YHVH has spoken!”
-
1
- Show all
Let the peace of Christ be in control in your heart (for you were in fact called as one body to this peace), and be thankful. 16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and exhorting one another with all wisdom, singing psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs, all with grace in your hearts to God. 17 And whatever you do in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians3&version=NET
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians3&version=NET
-
1
- Show all
You were once abandoned
and despised, with no one passing through,
but I will make you a permanent source of pride
and joy to coming generations.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah60&version=NET
and despised, with no one passing through,
but I will make you a permanent source of pride
and joy to coming generations.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah60&version=NET
