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Mathew 15:7-9
7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Isaiah 29:13
13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:
When our heart and actions are in line, that is worshiping in spirit and truth
7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Isaiah 29:13
13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:
When our heart and actions are in line, that is worshiping in spirit and truth
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Not uncircumcised of the heart Post.
Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Rom. 2:
9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
16 Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.
Ex. 12:48, And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.
Phil. 3:
2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.
3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Rom. 2:
9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
16 Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.
Ex. 12:48, And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.
Phil. 3:
2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.
3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
your quote of Galatians 4:10 got me to reading through the rest of Galatians 4.
I saw this
" Tell me, you that desire to be
under the law,
don’t you listen to the law?"
it is a standard assertion by many that the phrase Under the law means Under the penalty of the law.
But no sane person would want to be under the penalty of law.
so the phrase must mean Obligated to do what the law says, which is the meaning I attached to it when I first read it as a child. and I assumed everyone thought it meant that until I heard a strange interpretation of it sometimes put forward here on CC.
I saw this
" Tell me, you that desire to be
under the law,
don’t you listen to the law?"
it is a standard assertion by many that the phrase Under the law means Under the penalty of the law.
But no sane person would want to be under the penalty of law.
so the phrase must mean Obligated to do what the law says, which is the meaning I attached to it when I first read it as a child. and I assumed everyone thought it meant that until I heard a strange interpretation of it sometimes put forward here on CC.
as it is written
Isaiah 29: 14. Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid. 15. Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the LORD, and their works are in the dark, and they say, Who seeth us? and who knoweth us? 16. Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding? 17. Is it not yet a very little while, and Lebanon shall be turned into a fruitful field, and the fruitful field shall be esteemed as a forest? 18. And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.
Isaiah 29: 14. Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid. 15. Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the LORD, and their works are in the dark, and they say, Who seeth us? and who knoweth us? 16. Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding? 17. Is it not yet a very little while, and Lebanon shall be turned into a fruitful field, and the fruitful field shall be esteemed as a forest? 18. And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.
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Jeremiah 16:19-21
19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come to you from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.
20 Shall a man make gods to himself, and they are no gods?
21 Therefore, behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know my hand and my might; and they shall know that my name is Yahweh.
19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come to you from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.
20 Shall a man make gods to himself, and they are no gods?
21 Therefore, behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know my hand and my might; and they shall know that my name is Yahweh.
Circumcision is neither a priestly ordinance nor is it done to atone for sin.
It is the sign of a covenant and it was commanded that all of Abrahams children be subject to it irrespective of any personal proclamation of affiliation or attachment on their part. It was to been done to an 8 year old infant - what statement of faith can an infant make?
It is the sign of a covenant and it was commanded that all of Abrahams children be subject to it irrespective of any personal proclamation of affiliation or attachment on their part. It was to been done to an 8 year old infant - what statement of faith can an infant make?
Matthew 26: 30. And when they had sung an hymn, they went out into the mount of Olives. 31. Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered abroad. 32. But after I am risen again, I will go before you into Galilee.
That is a good question. I would like to just correct you on a couple of important facts though, before addressing this great question.
Lev. 23:
1 And the LORD (Word which became Flesh) spake unto Moses, saying,
2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.
So they are not Israelite holidays, they are Christ's Feasts.
Before I "turned to Him" in repentance I followed the religious traditions of man you call "cultural holidays". That was the "old wineskin". But now, all things are new. The old man with his lusts are gone, or at least identified so he doesn't rule over me.
Eph 4:21 If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:
22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; (Rejecting God's ways and following man's ways.)
23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
Jesus called His Feasts "Holy Convocations". I would say this is true Holiness. But "cultural holidays", I don't see where Jesus implied that these man made religious traditions are Holy. Many men might imply such things, but not the Christ who purchased me with His blood.
Eph. 2:
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of (mans) works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
I would say the Holy Convocations that God/Jesus created beforehand would be considered "Good Works" by Jesus, as He certainly walked in them.
The religious traditions of the nations has always plagued God's People. He said He would leave them in place to prove His people.
For me personally it is hard during some times of the year because the whole world has accepted the religious "cultural holidays" over the Feasts of the Living Christ.
For me I await a time when these "Modern religious culture" will be gone and everyone will follow the true Christ.
Is. 66:
16 For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.
17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD. (The Word which became Flesh)
There is no benefit of the worldly religions of the land accept as a test for those who have committed to the Christ. In my experience anyway. But I do see the significance of your question. Like a person who decries man made High Days but has stock in a Christmas Tree farm. I'm sure there are people who do these things as well.
Lev. 23:
1 And the LORD (Word which became Flesh) spake unto Moses, saying,
2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.
So they are not Israelite holidays, they are Christ's Feasts.
Before I "turned to Him" in repentance I followed the religious traditions of man you call "cultural holidays". That was the "old wineskin". But now, all things are new. The old man with his lusts are gone, or at least identified so he doesn't rule over me.
Eph 4:21 If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:
22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; (Rejecting God's ways and following man's ways.)
23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
Jesus called His Feasts "Holy Convocations". I would say this is true Holiness. But "cultural holidays", I don't see where Jesus implied that these man made religious traditions are Holy. Many men might imply such things, but not the Christ who purchased me with His blood.
Eph. 2:
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of (mans) works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
I would say the Holy Convocations that God/Jesus created beforehand would be considered "Good Works" by Jesus, as He certainly walked in them.
The religious traditions of the nations has always plagued God's People. He said He would leave them in place to prove His people.
For me personally it is hard during some times of the year because the whole world has accepted the religious "cultural holidays" over the Feasts of the Living Christ.
For me I await a time when these "Modern religious culture" will be gone and everyone will follow the true Christ.
Is. 66:
16 For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.
17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD. (The Word which became Flesh)
There is no benefit of the worldly religions of the land accept as a test for those who have committed to the Christ. In my experience anyway. But I do see the significance of your question. Like a person who decries man made High Days but has stock in a Christmas Tree farm. I'm sure there are people who do these things as well.
Like everything written in the Bible for our admonition, it is Spiritual. It happened to them as examples for us. So we can see How when we repent from man's ways to God's Ways, God will change us.
You can't see this because you are not trying to understand God's Word, rather, you want to use His Words to justify your religion. I keep posting scriptures and you keep ignoring them, not because they don't exist, but because you can't use them to further your religion.
Duet. 30:
1 And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath driven thee,
2 And shalt return unto the LORD thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul;
This is repentance. "I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish." This is the first step. Without this there is no understanding, no life, no Grace, nothing but death.
3 That then the LORD thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath scattered thee.
4 If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the LORD thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee:
5 And the LORD thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers.
6 And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.
1 Cor. 10:6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.
11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
Physical Circumcision, the Priesthood, all "happened unto them" for examples for us.
Rom. 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.
And what are we to learn Post. That God is a tyrant as you imply? That God is unjust as your preaching implies?
Or did the examples in the Law and Prophets teach us that if the inward part of man doesn't change towards God, nothing changes regardless of outward appearance.
You can't see this because you are not trying to understand God's Word, rather, you want to use His Words to justify your religion. I keep posting scriptures and you keep ignoring them, not because they don't exist, but because you can't use them to further your religion.
Duet. 30:
1 And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath driven thee,
2 And shalt return unto the LORD thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul;
This is repentance. "I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish." This is the first step. Without this there is no understanding, no life, no Grace, nothing but death.
3 That then the LORD thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath scattered thee.
4 If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the LORD thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee:
5 And the LORD thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers.
6 And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.
1 Cor. 10:6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.
11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
Physical Circumcision, the Priesthood, all "happened unto them" for examples for us.
Rom. 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.
And what are we to learn Post. That God is a tyrant as you imply? That God is unjust as your preaching implies?
Or did the examples in the Law and Prophets teach us that if the inward part of man doesn't change towards God, nothing changes regardless of outward appearance.
One thing we might learn is that if we put away slander, malice and vanity, and keep ourselves and our conversation focused on Christ, and seek always to find Him testified of in all the scriptures, God may be pleased to add to us knowledge of the Holy One.
But He hates lies, false witnesses and those who stir up animosity.
But He hates lies, false witnesses and those who stir up animosity.
This is a subject of great interest for me. I tried to keep it as short as I can but it is somewhat long. Please read it so you can at the very least understand why I think the way I do.
The scriptures teach that Abraham had God's Laws. But we know Levi wasn't even born yet, so Abraham didn't have the Levitical Priesthood. Paul said these "Works of the law" for justification and atonement of sins was "ADDED" 430 years later. The Jews, many even to this day, continue to follow their version of this Levitical Priesthood having rejected the teaching that Jesus is the Messiah. Given they didn't believe Jesus was the Messiah, they continued to perform Sacrificial, Ceremonial Levitical Priesthood "Works of the Law" gave by God through Moses "till the Seed should come".
21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
Two Covenants, one given to Abraham and his children, the children of Israel as He promised. One given to Moses for the atonement of sins. "till the Seed should Come".
Gen. 12:
1 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
4 So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him;
This is God's Covent with Abraham which Jesus continued.
24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, (his country, his kindred, his fathers house) and take up his cross, and follow me. (into a land which I will show thee)
But the Covenant that God "ADDED" 430 years after Abraham was the Priesthood Abraham didn't have for the atonement of sins.
Because carnal man is an enemy of God, and is not subject to His Commandment, they refuse to accept that Abraham had God's Laws which the scripture says he obeyed, but didn't have the Levitical Priesthood. The Jews first, and now modern religious man.
As a result they combine God's Laws Abraham obeyed, with the Priesthood which was added to God's Laws Abraham obeyed, until the seed should come.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.
Your preaching, or certainly the implication of your preaching, is that the Laws of God Abraham had and obeyed forced him into bondage, when the opposite happened.
And God hinted of the abolition of the Priesthood throughout the Bible for those interested in seeking the truth. But never His universal Law given to Abraham and all mankind.
1 Sam. 15:22 And Samuel said, Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices,(Levitical Priesthood "works of the Law for remission of sins) as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.
23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.
Ps. 40:
6 Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required.
7 Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,
8 I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart.
Psalms 51:
16 For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering.
17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, (Self denial) O God, thou wilt not despise.
"Cast out the Bondwomen"
Jer. 31:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
No more Levite Priests to administer God's Laws, not more Levitical Priesthood "works of the Law" for the atonement of sins.
You who desire to be under these "Works of the Law", do you not read the Law?
The scriptures teach that Abraham had God's Laws. But we know Levi wasn't even born yet, so Abraham didn't have the Levitical Priesthood. Paul said these "Works of the law" for justification and atonement of sins was "ADDED" 430 years later. The Jews, many even to this day, continue to follow their version of this Levitical Priesthood having rejected the teaching that Jesus is the Messiah. Given they didn't believe Jesus was the Messiah, they continued to perform Sacrificial, Ceremonial Levitical Priesthood "Works of the Law" gave by God through Moses "till the Seed should come".
21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
Two Covenants, one given to Abraham and his children, the children of Israel as He promised. One given to Moses for the atonement of sins. "till the Seed should Come".
Gen. 12:
1 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
4 So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him;
This is God's Covent with Abraham which Jesus continued.
24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, (his country, his kindred, his fathers house) and take up his cross, and follow me. (into a land which I will show thee)
But the Covenant that God "ADDED" 430 years after Abraham was the Priesthood Abraham didn't have for the atonement of sins.
Because carnal man is an enemy of God, and is not subject to His Commandment, they refuse to accept that Abraham had God's Laws which the scripture says he obeyed, but didn't have the Levitical Priesthood. The Jews first, and now modern religious man.
As a result they combine God's Laws Abraham obeyed, with the Priesthood which was added to God's Laws Abraham obeyed, until the seed should come.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.
Your preaching, or certainly the implication of your preaching, is that the Laws of God Abraham had and obeyed forced him into bondage, when the opposite happened.
And God hinted of the abolition of the Priesthood throughout the Bible for those interested in seeking the truth. But never His universal Law given to Abraham and all mankind.
1 Sam. 15:22 And Samuel said, Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices,(Levitical Priesthood "works of the Law for remission of sins) as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.
23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.
Ps. 40:
6 Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required.
7 Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,
8 I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart.
Psalms 51:
16 For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering.
17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, (Self denial) O God, thou wilt not despise.
"Cast out the Bondwomen"
Jer. 31:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
No more Levite Priests to administer God's Laws, not more Levitical Priesthood "works of the Law" for the atonement of sins.
You who desire to be under these "Works of the Law", do you not read the Law?
I have read your Posts sir. Printed and studied them. You imply all the time that God created laws to difficult to keep and then killed those who couldn't keep them.
That God's Laws are "rudiments of the World" "tradition of men" etc. It is not slander to read your posts and hear what you are saying.
But maybe I shouldn't be so truthful as it gives you an excuse to ignore, once again, the meaning of my post.
That God's Laws are "rudiments of the World" "tradition of men" etc. It is not slander to read your posts and hear what you are saying.
But maybe I shouldn't be so truthful as it gives you an excuse to ignore, once again, the meaning of my post.
let's start here,
The scriptures teach that Abraham had God's Laws.
I agree that Abraham had laws from God that he followed (though some not so well).
what laws do you feel Abraham had? please be specific, for example:
Abraham had the Ten Commandments, and the law against eating blood in animal flesh.
The scriptures teach that Abraham had God's Laws.
I agree that Abraham had laws from God that he followed (though some not so well).
what laws do you feel Abraham had? please be specific, for example:
Abraham had the Ten Commandments, and the law against eating blood in animal flesh.