Revelation 3:5
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(Can't remember if I addressed this)
He did if you don't redefine the inheritance away from what Paul himself defined it to be--the Promise God made to Abraham, and specifically, the Holy Spirit.
So how does one not lose their salvation if the inheritance is the promise of the Holy Spirit (which it is, see Galatians 3:22) and they are no longer an heir along with the sons of the New Covenant because of unbelief? Obviously, if one is no longer an heir of the promises made to Abraham he is no longer saved.
He did if you don't redefine the inheritance away from what Paul himself defined it to be--the Promise God made to Abraham, and specifically, the Holy Spirit.
So how does one not lose their salvation if the inheritance is the promise of the Holy Spirit (which it is, see Galatians 3:22) and they are no longer an heir along with the sons of the New Covenant because of unbelief? Obviously, if one is no longer an heir of the promises made to Abraham he is no longer saved.
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So you also belive that Jesus did/does your believing for you (or else it would be you earning your own salvation)?
Show me in the Bible where 'believing' is a work of the damnable works gospel. Don't bother looking. It's not there. It's not among the works that can not justify. It is exactly the thing that does justify, and which is not a work of merit.
Show me in the Bible where 'believing' is a work of the damnable works gospel. Don't bother looking. It's not there. It's not among the works that can not justify. It is exactly the thing that does justify, and which is not a work of merit.
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For a gift, yes (Romans 12--passage you're referring to).
For salvation? Of course He does. It's a gift of God given to men so they can then place their trust in Christ and be saved.
God gives the power of faith to know the gospel is true (Hebrews 11:1). Then we do the believing in response to what he has shown us is true through that gift of faith.
So back to my question: Does God do your believing/trusting for you? I know he gives the power and ability to be able to believe/trust, but does he actually do your believing/trusting for you?
Of course he does........for those who believe, not for those who stopped believing, or who never believed to begin with.
For salvation? Of course He does. It's a gift of God given to men so they can then place their trust in Christ and be saved.
God gives the power of faith to know the gospel is true (Hebrews 11:1). Then we do the believing in response to what he has shown us is true through that gift of faith.
So back to my question: Does God do your believing/trusting for you? I know he gives the power and ability to be able to believe/trust, but does he actually do your believing/trusting for you?
Of course he does........for those who believe, not for those who stopped believing, or who never believed to begin with.
Does JESUS deal to men faith in measure?
Does JESUS begin the work of faith?
Does JESUS finish the work of faith?
Does Jesus COMPLETE the work of FAITH?
My JESUS does....it seem obvious that your JESUS does none of the 4 above....Your Jesus is not found in scripture!
Bolded false and voids the first four points above as lies from an inept weak God that cannot keep his promises
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Does JESUS begin the work of faith?
Does JESUS finish the work of faith?
Does Jesus COMPLETE the work of FAITH?
My JESUS does....it seem obvious that your JESUS does none of the 4 above....Your Jesus is not found in scripture!
Bolded false and voids the first four points above as lies from an inept weak God that cannot keep his promises
Underlined true
I actually believe that some people think so. Faith becomes a completely passive experience in the belief that GOD does everything. Basically a form of Quietism > Quietism — The Passive Christian Life (btw that author has some great stuff you might like)
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And some people actually believe Jesus...you know...the one that deals faith, starts the work of faith, finishes the work of faith, completes the work of faith, saves to the uttermost, never leaves us or forsakes us...the very same one who gives the irrevocable GIFT of eternal life by faith.......and of course when he says eternal or everlasting he does not mean temporary based upon what we do or don't do....and the funny thing...HE ABIDES faithful because he cannot deny himself....you know the imputed righteousness of Christ by faith and all that jazz about seeing the blood and passing over.......the JESUS of the bible....NOT the fraud that some on this site peddle like a dime store stick figure doll........