Not By Works
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I think the terms "Spiritual death" and "Spiritual life" and what it means to be dead to christ or alive in christ , and born again, are lost someplace in translation for alot of people. Understand this basic truth (what I would consider milk of the word) and a whole lot of doors to spiritual truths are opened.
I totally disagree. Demonstrate how James 2 is taken out of context? I posted a section of it making sure context was preserved. Therefore to reject his concept that faith without works is dead you must come up with scripture that makes it in error. Waiting to hear from any of you regarding the other scriptures.
There is a misunderstanding of many people about the history of the New Testament. All texts were completed by approximately 95AD. Some disagreements about the date of Revelation the last book to be written. After that scribes created copies and individual books were passed around. Only a very few had all copies. It takes a scribe a long time to copy the text to keep it error free so there was a limited number of copies. Constantine ordered the entire Bible copied and sent to all of the regional elders. That was the first time the entire Bible was sent to many elders. Each copy was very expensive considering how long it took a scribe to copy it.
The problem currently is the 7 big protestant denominations have been taken over by secular ministers who are in it for access to the church treasury. Gary North wrote a book Crossed Fingers that documented the takeover of the Presbyterian USA in 1932. There are sub denominations that still preach the gospel. Missouri Synod Lutheran and Presbyterian PCA for example. The problem is almost half of the USA go to church but only a small fraction hear the gospel message.
You are calling Jesus a liar since He gave us the Great Commission!!!
Mathew 28:16 to 20 (great commission) AMPC (Amplified Classic)
16 Now the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain to which Jesus had directed and made appointment with them.
17 And when they saw Him, they fell down and worshiped Him; but some doubted.
18 Jesus approached and, breaking the silence, said to them, All authority (all power of rule) in heaven and on earth has been given to Me.
19 Go then and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
20 Teaching them to observe everything that I have commanded you, and behold, I am with you all the days (perpetually, uniformly, and on every occasion), to the [very] close and consummation of the age. Amen (so let it be).
Mathew 28:16 to 20 (great commission) AMPC (Amplified Classic)
16 Now the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain to which Jesus had directed and made appointment with them.
17 And when they saw Him, they fell down and worshiped Him; but some doubted.
18 Jesus approached and, breaking the silence, said to them, All authority (all power of rule) in heaven and on earth has been given to Me.
19 Go then and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
20 Teaching them to observe everything that I have commanded you, and behold, I am with you all the days (perpetually, uniformly, and on every occasion), to the [very] close and consummation of the age. Amen (so let it be).
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Well "Observe" can mean-watch in order to learn or seek to do as by example-,and Jesus gave the "command" to his disciples not everyone in general,for the disciples"already believed" and so they would obey,he wasn't making like a chain reaction order that if one disciple got a person to listen that the person was to obey what was taught them,that would be "forcing" an individual in to a decision instead of "giving them the possibility" to accept what they taught.
From what we have seen...even if the truth was in glowing 30 foot tall neon letters you will still push your Catholic roots.....your really should study your history without bias and blinders on.......I think I will start posting accurate the accurate history of your work.....funny thing......even in the 60's the Catholics and Presbyterians were getting back together.....the daughter returning to her mother.....wow.......very interesting articles.....
Presbyterians Travel to The Vatican in Search of Unity With Roman Catholics
https://www.christianheadlines.com/...rch-of-unity-with-roman-catholics-525346.html
In a historic three-day meeting, Presbyterian and Roman Catholic officials inched closer to more visible unity between their churches.
The formal talks were sometimes simple and direct, sometimes as labyrinthine as the streets of this ancient city.
At their conclusion, on March 22, the 15-member delegation from the Presbyterian Church (USA) and five staff members from the Vatican's Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity issued a joint statement in which they pledged to continue working toward a theological agreement on three major issues:
* The doctrine of justification
* Mutual recognition of each other's baptisms
* A joint study of Reformation-era documents in which the churches condemned each other, culminating in a declaration "that they no longer reflect the reality of our views of each other."
Source was ChristianHeadlines.COM
https://www.christianheadlines.com/...rch-of-unity-with-roman-catholics-525346.html
In a historic three-day meeting, Presbyterian and Roman Catholic officials inched closer to more visible unity between their churches.
The formal talks were sometimes simple and direct, sometimes as labyrinthine as the streets of this ancient city.
At their conclusion, on March 22, the 15-member delegation from the Presbyterian Church (USA) and five staff members from the Vatican's Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity issued a joint statement in which they pledged to continue working toward a theological agreement on three major issues:
* The doctrine of justification
* Mutual recognition of each other's baptisms
* A joint study of Reformation-era documents in which the churches condemned each other, culminating in a declaration "that they no longer reflect the reality of our views of each other."
Source was ChristianHeadlines.COM