When is it gonna be enough?

[Desdichado]

Yes, and the ramifications in common law would be onerous where carrying is concerned.

Is one criminally liable if they take their gun off their belt while taking a dump or finding a comfortable position on the couch.

One can say "well I wouldn't go that far", but the curtailment of liberties is like pandora's box. It isn't your decision to make, but that of legislators, lawyers, special interest, judges, etc, etc, etc. Many of whom care about being right over legal consistency. Such is the bloat of the Western system?

Just look at what they're doing to Free Speech throughout the West. These issues are inextricably tied.

If a home invader comes into your home and your weapon is locked up and unreachable, what good is it going to do you? "Wisdom" is to have your weapon of self-defense in hand for any eventuality.

 

[Dem]

America has 57 times more school shootings then any other major country. Its time to wake up and smell the coffee we sink when it comes to our self center gun laws

 

[Desdichado]

America has 57 times more school shootings then any other major country.

What counts as a school shooting in that stat? What's a "major country?" Major in size? Major in wealth?

Its time to wake up and smell the coffee we sink when it comes to our self center gun laws

Assuming the stat is valid, how can we be certain changing gun laws are the best remedy? Why not psychotropic drugs? Why not reforming the media cycle? The public education system? The welfare system which enables mass fatherlessness?

 

[hornetguy]

What counts as a school shooting in that stat? What's a "major country?" Major in size? Major in wealth?



Assuming the stat is valid, how can we be certain changing gun laws are the best remedy? Why not psychotropic drugs? Why not reforming the media cycle? The public education system? The welfare system which enables mass fatherlessness?

I googled and found a list of all "22" school shootings this year, and only 2 of them IIRC were the type of shootings they are talking about. Now, I suppose it's 3. I listed quite a few of them in a similar thread.... I'll see if I can find it.

Throwing out misleading statistics is a common tactic among the libs.

 

[Tommy379]

America has 57 times more school shootings then any other major country. Its time to wake up and smell the coffee we sink when it comes to our self center gun laws

The United States probably has 57 times more schools also.

 

[Desdichado]

It is worth noting this is a specifically American sort of violence. But, again, the answer is more psychological/philosophical/spiritual/developmental.

European mass killers still magically acquire guns when they intend to use them.

I googled and found a list of all "22" school shootings this year, and only 2 of them IIRC were the type of shootings they are talking about. Now, I suppose it's 3. I listed quite a few of them in a similar thread.... I'll see if I can find it.

Throwing out misleading statistics is a common tactic among the libs.

 

[CS1]

I'm not gonna be debating God and his role in the evil of this world or whatever. What I am going to say is something that needs to be said.


We've had yet another school shooting yesterday morning in Texas. We've had yet another wicked, truly evil person walk in freely and murder eight students. If that does not outrage you, you are not human and have no pulse.


The last thing we need to offer are just "thoughts and prayers." Thoughts and prayers are not enough anymore. God hates gun violence. Period. And so should we.


How many school shootings is it going to take for the church to wake up to the fact that there are truly evil people in this world? That Satan has made it clear he is not going to play fair? Does it have to go so far as to seeing their own children murdered? I'm all for the second amendment, but is it worth defending at the cost of these kids lives?


Bottomline, this is all outrageous and disgusting. All of us, liberals, conservatives, Christians, Atheists, whatever! We all need to start sending demands our police and politicians and gun manufacturers, "DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS!"

"History will not look kindly upon those elected officials who failed to act in the face of repeated mass murders of our children. Spare us your thoughts and prayers and do your job." - Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings

you anger is rightly justified however I would say a little misplaced.

Cause and effect:

what is causing the shooting to happen? Well the truth is known and the blame lays at the feet of only a few.

To blame:

1. Parents who failed to teach their children respect for them(parents), themselves, and authority. They have no moral relativeness. Also parent abused these kids with broken homes look at the last three shooters Mas, Fl, and Tx all came from dysfunctional families. Parents provide no discipline allowed and treated kids like adults, 8 years old with t.v. cell phones and I pods. Desensitized at home developed no social skills or ability to relate.



2. School are to blame them too provided no authority or discipline. And continued the process of desensitizing with chrome books, and allowing cell phones and I pod etc.. as they watch teachers use them in class too. Students with no respect and not expected to learn yet they move up every years until they are out. School cripple children with false narratives of sexuality, and identities. Coddle them with over emotional content but have not equipped them for the real world This produced much anger. Also the BRACING of drugs , glorified and promoted , so that many young men come to school high and unprepared for studying .

3. Community is to blame. the Church has not stood for righteousness but have embraced the very sins society has created . Because or fear and no power to be a witness. Many proclaiming Christians have abandoned the word of God .

NOW we are shocked that the shootings are happening in the very institutions that cause this. NOW we live with the effects of Lies, ungodly , and wicked parents, teachers , and chronio’s .

the problem is in the mirror.

Wake up. we have sown to the wind , now reap the whirl-wind

 

[CS1]

you anger is rightly justified however I would say a little misplaced.

Cause and effect:

what is causing the shooting to happen? Well the truth is known and the blame lays at the feet of only a few.

To blame:

1. Parents who failed to teach their children respect for them(parents), themselves, and authority. They have no moral relativeness. Also parent abused these kids with broken homes look at the last three shooters Mas, Fl, and Tx all came from dysfunctional families. Parents provide no discipline allowed and treated kids like adults, 8 years old with t.v. cell phones and I pods. Desensitized at home developed no social skills or ability to relate.



2. School are to blame them too provided no authority or discipline. And continued the process of desensitizing with chrome books, and allowing cell phones and I pod etc.. as they watch teachers use them in class too. Students with no respect and not expected to learn yet they move up every years until they are out. School cripple children with false narratives of sexuality, and identities. Coddle them with over emotional content but have not equipped them for the real world This produced much anger. Also the BRACING of drugs , glorified and promoted , so that many young men come to school high and unprepared for studying .

3. Community is to blame. the Church has not stood for righteousness but have embraced the very sins society has created . Because or fear and no power to be a witness. Many proclaiming Christians have abandoned the word of God .

NOW we are shocked that the shootings are happening in the very institutions that cause this. NOW we live with the effects of Lies, ungodly , and wicked parents, teachers , and chronio’s .

the problem is in the mirror.

Wake up. we have sown to the wind , now reap the whirl-wind

The social media has embraced lying as the means of news to fit their position on morality . Today only what they agree with will be given to the people. The Medical community too has picked sides as many of the APA and other phycologist who are homosexual have said this LBGTQ sexual preference is normal. They have with help of mainly mother of single parent derived a hostile method of Bastardization of young boys and the law will not remove the child abused in the home of these perverted women. Men who failed to be a father and pass on to the young boy what it is to be a man. NOW a false Narrative has been made law of the land in many states and this great sin which is directed AT GOD! Has created wickedness which has now come to full growth and without a MIGHTY MOVE OF GOD WE IN AMERICA ARE DONE. Wake UP! Pray and ask God to forgive our nation for shaking our fist as HIS word and saying we will do what we want.

 

[Dem]

What counts as a school shooting in that stat? What's a "major country?" Major in size? Major in wealth?



Assuming the stat is valid, how can we be certain changing gun laws are the best remedy? Why not psychotropic drugs? Why not reforming the media cycle? The public education system? The welfare system which enables mass fatherlessness?

Its a fact 57 times more then all the G7 countries. no way around it we are a messed up country. look it up google it.

 

[Dem]

The social media has embraced lying as the means of news to fit their position on morality . Today only what they agree with will be given to the people. The Medical community too has picked sides as many of the APA and other phycologist who are homosexual have said this LBGTQ sexual preference is normal. They have with help of mainly mother of single parent derived a hostile method of Bastardization of young boys and the law will not remove the child abused in the home of these perverted women. Men who failed to be a father and pass on to the young boy what it is to be a man. NOW a false Narrative has been made law of the land in many states and this great sin which is directed AT GOD! Has created wickedness which has now come to full growth and without a MIGHTY MOVE OF GOD WE IN AMERICA ARE DONE. Wake UP! Pray and ask God to forgive our nation for shaking our fist as HIS word and saying we will do what we want.

Don,t forget the greet of the NRA that keeps our country flooded with guns now...

 

[hornetguy]

Don,t forget the greet of the NRA that keeps our country flooded with guns now...

I really don't expect much from you, but I sorta did expect a little better than that...

I assume you meant the "greed" of the NRA?

If that is the case, please explain to me and to all the other sane people in this thread how the NRA is "greedy" in standing up and fighting for the rights of American citizens... enumerated (codified?) in the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

Are you adamantly opposed to the "greed" of the ACLU? Or, the NAACP?

 

[zoh]

-when someone killed in US well everyone is sad.
-when someone killed in Europe well it is tragedy.
-when thousands are dying in Asian and Africa its ok we can live with that.

before you answer think how many times you post/say something like that from countries other than US,and maybe some European countries.

 

[Desdichado]

"Google it bruh!"

Classic.

Its a fact 57 times more then all the G7 countries. no way around it we are a messed up country. look it up google it.

 

[Desdichado]

Oh I have a heart for people outside the West.

But of course we discuss western news items more frequently...most of us live here!

I'm more likely to talk about water issues in TN because I live near a ton of local lakes. That doesn't mean I'm callous toward people in Flint.

-when someone killed in US well everyone is sad.
-when someone killed in Europe well it is tragedy.
-when thousands are dying in Asian and Africa its ok we can live with that.

before you answer think how many times you post/say something like that from countries other than US,and maybe some European countries.

 

[dcontroversal]

Don,t forget the greet of the NRA that keeps our country flooded with guns now...

One of the most ignorant comments I have read right here folks...

 

[dcontroversal]

I really don't expect much from you, but I sorta did expect a little better than that...

I assume you meant the "greed" of the NRA?

If that is the case, please explain to me and to all the other sane people in this thread how the NRA is "greedy" in standing up and fighting for the rights of American citizens... enumerated (codified?) in the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

Are you adamantly opposed to the "greed" of the ACLU? Or, the NAACP?

He made a snide mouthy remark about Republicans in another thread.....it too was ignorant...

 

[Desdichado]

I don't think Dem is for real. He sticks almost too close to CNN talking points.

He made a snide mouthy remark about Republicans in another thread.....it too was ignorant...

 

[Dem]

I really don't expect much from you, but I sorta did expect a little better than that...

I assume you meant the "greed" of the NRA?

If that is the case, please explain to me and to all the other sane people in this thread how the NRA is "greedy" in standing up and fighting for the rights of American citizens... enumerated (codified?) in the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

Are you adamantly opposed to the "greed" of the ACLU? Or, the NAACP?

either you are blind or stick your head in a bucket of sand every day it does not need explaining. They own the republican party the only right they stick up for is the right to murder our kids.

 

[Dem]

I don't think Dem is for real. He sticks almost too close to CNN talking points.

and you stick to fox news talking points.

 

[Desdichado]

I don't watch fox news. Can't stand most of their shows.

and you stick to fox news talking points.