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Some go back because they decide they love their lives or the things of this world more than GOD. The cares of this world choke out the life of GOD
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God. James 4:4
No domestic slave is able to serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and will despise the other. You are not able to serve God and money.” Luke 16:13
No domestic slave is able to serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and will despise the other. You are not able to serve God and money.” Luke 16:13
In regards to the thorny soil, the word was choked out before reaching it's desired goal, making it [unfruitful]. The cares of this world have the effect of stifling the word/gospel, such that the person does not bear the fruit of salvation.
Put a stop to the growth of the word and it gives no fruit (Bible in Basic English). The potential to eventually become established and produce fruit was there, but the word was choked out before reaching it's desired goal. It (the seed, the word) became unfruitful (produces nothing, proves unfruitful, does not produce fruit, yields nothing), because the growth of the word was choked. In the Complete Jewish Bible we read, Now the seed sown among thorns stands for someone who hears the message, but it is choked by the worries of the world and the deceitful glamor of wealth, so that it produces nothing.
Nothing amounts to nothing and nothing was mentioned about it ever producing something and faith without works is dead.
Put a stop to the growth of the word and it gives no fruit (Bible in Basic English). The potential to eventually become established and produce fruit was there, but the word was choked out before reaching it's desired goal. It (the seed, the word) became unfruitful (produces nothing, proves unfruitful, does not produce fruit, yields nothing), because the growth of the word was choked. In the Complete Jewish Bible we read, Now the seed sown among thorns stands for someone who hears the message, but it is choked by the worries of the world and the deceitful glamor of wealth, so that it produces nothing.
Nothing amounts to nothing and nothing was mentioned about it ever producing something and faith without works is dead.
In CONTRAST, we read in Matthew 13:23 - "And the one on whom seed was sown on the good soil, this is the man who hears the word and understands it; who INDEED BEARS FRUIT and brings forth, some a hundredfold, some sixty, and some thirty." *Only the 4th soil produced crops of any size.* I suppose the question still remains, "can this forth soil eventually become fruitless?" If this were possible, why didn't Christ include such a scenario before concluding? There is mention of a difference in the size of the crops, but no consequences or warnings are given to the lesser producers. Only the 4th soil was referred to as "good ground" and produced a crop (fruit) and there is NO MENTION OF CHOKING OR WITHERING THEREAFTER.
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The roots were not boind or found in christ, thats why here was no fruit,
faith without works (works produce fruit). People have belief (mental agreement)butdo not have true faith, so they are hearers of the word only, and many become antichrist and leave as in 1 john, who were never of us.
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If that's the case, where is the FRUIT? Faith without works is dead? Right? But the ones on the rock are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root.." Problem from the start. Temporary shallow belief that was not firmly rooted or established from the start "has no root" represents rocky soil. Then we see the results of this. Temporary shallow belief that has no root, lacks moisture, produces no fruit and withers away. This does not represent saving belief.
In regards to the thorny soil, there was motion, movement and growth toward becoming fruitful, but it was choked out before reaching it's desired goal (as the 4th soil reached it's desired goal of producing a crop) and instead, it became unfruitful, yields nothing, does not produce fruit. Just like the seed that fell on the stony soil, where it did not have much earth; and immediately it sprang up because it had no depth of earth (it sprang up but no crop sprang up) and and because it had no root it withered away. (Mark 4:6) There was motion, movement and growth, unlike the seed that fell by the wayside, yet the condition changed from sprang up (although it did not yet reach it's desired goal) to withered away.
In both cases, the word was never firmly rooted and established from the start. People who do not hear the word with a good and honest heart and having "no root" and "no fruit" do not experience real salvation.
In regards to the thorny soil, there was motion, movement and growth toward becoming fruitful, but it was choked out before reaching it's desired goal (as the 4th soil reached it's desired goal of producing a crop) and instead, it became unfruitful, yields nothing, does not produce fruit. Just like the seed that fell on the stony soil, where it did not have much earth; and immediately it sprang up because it had no depth of earth (it sprang up but no crop sprang up) and and because it had no root it withered away. (Mark 4:6) There was motion, movement and growth, unlike the seed that fell by the wayside, yet the condition changed from sprang up (although it did not yet reach it's desired goal) to withered away.
In both cases, the word was never firmly rooted and established from the start. People who do not hear the word with a good and honest heart and having "no root" and "no fruit" do not experience real salvation.
