Baptism: is it required to be baptized in water?

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To somewhat go off topic here, but when the catholic church does the infant baptism, as I recall being taught that it is to wash away original sin, and I think this is still taught. An infant does not know what is happening so where did this teaching come from? Does anyone here have better knowledge on the matter?
YOUR VICEGERENT WHO PROCLAIMS TO BE GOD!

GOD SAID "I WILL SPRINKLE *CLEAN WATER* ON YOU" IN EZEKIEL 36:25 AND YOUR VICEGERENT WHO THINK HE IS GOD, RAN AND GOT A PAN OF DIRTY [FAUCET] WATER AND SPRINKLED THE KID WHO PROBABLY THOUGHT HE WAS DROWNING!
 

Didymous

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Why are you a "mailman" and don't know one with water and One by Holy Spirit is TWO?

You just don't want to accept the TRUTH!

Well if you can't count; GOD CAN!
Why is this even an issue for you? Just curious.
 

plaintalk

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The thief on the cross

(1) When Jesus was on this earth He had the authority to forgive sins. He told the paralytic “take courage, My son. Your sins are forgiven.” (Matt. 9: 1-6) he told the thief on the cross “ Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise.” Those who are obsessed with the thief should write those two scriptures down and refer to them from time to time.

(2) When we argue against baptism in water in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, we are arguing against the authority of Jesus our Lord. [SUP]18 [/SUP]And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. [SUP]19 [/SUP]Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,[SUP]20 [/SUP]teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” (Matt. 28; 18- 20) He is the one who authorized this baptism; it is no less binding than the baptism with the Spirit which He administers.

(3) When we argue against baptism in water, we are arguing against something our Lord Himself submitted to. And after being baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove and lighting on Him, (Matt. 3: 16)

(4) When we say that baptism in water has nothing to do with salvation, we are contradicting our Lord. [SUP]16 [/SUP]He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned. (Mark 16: 16)

(5) When we say that Holy Spirit is received before baptism in the name of Christ, we are admitting we did not read Matt. 3: 16 carefully.

(6) Dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. 2 Thess. 1: 8)
May God bless us all with an understanding heart.
 
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What are you wowwing about?
I just was not aware that God made exceptions to salvation, seems if he would allow an exception for one man it would mean that he changed his methods. I recall in Malachi 3:6 God said, "For I am the Lord I change not;". I was just wowed that God has lied!
 

DJ2

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I just was not aware that God made exceptions to salvation, seems if he would allow an exception for one man it would mean that he changed his methods. I recall in Malachi 3:6 God said, "For I am the Lord I change not;". I was just wowed that God has lied!
I still don't know what you are wowing about?

Calm down and relax.

God does not lie.

Now what are you wowing about?

Answer the question before commenting.
 

mailmandan

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Why are you a "mailman" and don't know one with water and One by Holy Spirit is TWO?

You just don't want to accept the TRUTH!

Well if you can't count; GOD CAN!
I already explained the truth in post #1092 and you even gave me a like for it. ;)

It’s you who insists on fighting the truth.
 
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Why is this even an issue for you? Just curious.
I've told you! GOD told me to go tell them! I'm not making this up I'm to old to be playing!

There is NO MORE "worshiping with hands" (Acts 17:23-25) NONE!

John 4:23-24!
 
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In Matthew 3:11, we read - I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

Again, in Acts 1:5, we read - for John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now. *TWO SEPARATE BAPTISMS.

In Acts 11:16, we read - Then I remembered the word of the Lord, how He said, ‘John indeed baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit.’ ​*These are clearly two distinct baptisms.

*By saying ONE baptism in Ephesians 4:5, Paul did not mean that there is only one baptism that exists such as water baptism but not Spirit baptism or Spirit baptism but not water baptism etc..

*There is only ONE baptism that places us into the body of Christ and that is SPIRIT baptism, not water baptism.

Ephesians 4:5 - one Lord, one faith, one baptism.

1 Corinthians 12:13 - For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free--and have all been made to drink into one Spirit.
THERE ARE *NOT* TWO BAPTISMS (EPHESIANS 2:1)!

GOD CAN COUNT!
 
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I already explained the truth in post #1092 and you even gave me a like for it. ;)

It’s you who insists on fighting the truth.

I must have been cross eyed for there are NOT 2 baptisms! GOD SAID "one" and that's THAT!
 
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I just was not aware that God made exceptions to salvation, seems if he would allow an exception for one man it would mean that he changed his methods. I recall in Malachi 3:6 God said, "For I am the Lord I change not;". I was just wowed that God has lied!
Since you feel that way [which is right] you should consider the thief on the cross.:)
 

hornetguy

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I just was not aware that God made exceptions to salvation, seems if he would allow an exception for one man it would mean that he changed his methods. I recall in Malachi 3:6 God said, "For I am the Lord I change not;". I was just wowed that God has lied!
Please explain to me how you think that God "lied"... God can do whatever He pleases, when He pleases, and with whom He pleases. He does not answer to his creation, and He will not be kept in a "box" by His creation.

Your arrogance in relation to our almighty God is astounding.


also, please look up the definition of "exception". You used the word, but seem to be confused as to its meaning, or you would not be accusing God of "changing His methods".
 

BillG

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THERE ARE *NOT* TWO BAPTISMS (EPHESIANS 2:1)!

GOD CAN COUNT!
Ephesians 2:1
Chapter 2
By Grace Through Faith
1 And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins,

I cannot see baptism in the verse
 

Didymous

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Ephesians 2:1
Chapter 2
By Grace Through Faith
1 And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins,

I cannot see baptism in the verse
Incognito is a prophet of God, supposedly, so you must be mistaken. Maybe you should read it again, for prophets of God don't make mistakes, right? Because the ones who did died, right? So surely this woman wouldn't make a mistake when referencing scripture?
 
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Incognito is a prophet of God, supposedly, so you must be mistaken. Maybe you should read it again, for prophets of God don't make mistakes, right? Because the ones who did died, right? So surely this woman wouldn't make a mistake when referencing scripture?
You mean like Moses?
 
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joefizz

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I must have been cross eyed for there are NOT 2 baptisms! GOD SAID "one" and that's THAT!
You have officially certified that you are neither God sent nor a credible bible teacher with this statement for there are "2" baptisms,baptism by way of the Holy spirit and water baptism.
 
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NoNameMcgee

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Incognito is a prophet of God, supposedly, so you must be mistaken. Maybe you should read it again, for prophets of God don't make mistakes, right? Because the ones who did died, right? So surely this woman wouldn't make a mistake when referencing scripture?
i see what you did there:rolleyes: