GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

[PS]

i don't think you comprehend what i'm asking, because you didn't even attempt to answer it.

ask yourself, what is the new house that God builds, and what is a parapet in this house?


all scripture testifies of Christ. the Law is the nanny that is to bring us to Him -- so where is Christ in this commandment?
i'm not asking because i don't know; i'm asking because i hope you will think for yourself through what the implication of this is, finding Christ revealed in it -- because if you do, it comments profoundly on many of the topics in this thread you consider to be 'larger' but which are actually much smaller.

people, especially proud people, internalize a lesson better when they think they've arrived at it themselves, rather than having memorized a lecture. when they have thought it in their own mind, rather than having been told what to think. that is why i posted this commandment, and asked about it, rather than explained it.
not because i couldn't write 6,000 words expositing it myself.
because i know you'd reject those immediately, but you'd accept whatever you told yourself - and if your mind was on Him, you would see Him in it, and the transmission of the ideas i mean to convey would be accomplished without my having to state them.

Various translations call it a parapet, battlement, railing, or fence.

Albert Barnes says this, "The roofs of houses in Palestine were flat and used for various purposes. Compare Jos_2:6; 2Sa_11:2; Act_10:9, etc. A battlement was almost a necessary protection. It was to be, according to the rabbis, at least two cubits high (about 3 ft.).

I wonder if you are seeing Christ as our keeper, saviour, and protector?

 

[posthuman]

Various translations call it a parapet, battlement, railing, or fence.

Albert Barnes says this, "The roofs of houses in Palestine were flat and used for various purposes. Compare Jos_2:6; 2Sa_11:2; Act_10:9, etc. A battlement was almost a necessary protection. It was to be, according to the rabbis, at least two cubits high (about 3 ft.).

I wonder if you are seeing Christ as our keeper, saviour, and protector?

i believe that on the heights of God's own house, He has built it so that we will not fall off, yes

He would be evil if He commanded us to do so, and did not do so Himself, wouldn't He?
and God is good -- therefore the roof of His house is unquestionably made safe, and He bears no guilt

 

[PS]

Yes

thank you


perhaps you are not aware that Studyman's position is that Colossians 2 says exactly the opposite of what it really says?
Studyman says here Paul is telling us that we are commanded to keep and in fact to judge one another over observing feast days, sabbath days and new moon festival.

he focuses only on sabbath however, and though i've been asking plainly and pointedly for several moons now, he won't tell me how i'm supposed to observe new moon festivals.

the others here, they point at Isaiah 66:23 and say "see? sabbath is mentioned, so you must keep sabbath ((or else!!))" -- but this same verse says new moon festival too, and they are silent on that issue.

if these things argue that sabbath is commanded and we - faith in Christ not being sufficient - will go to hell if we don't ritually, physically observe it, then the exact same arguments also say we must keep new moon festivals or meet the same fate, again, the atonement of Christ's shed blood not making any difference. ((according to their 'gospel'))

so, for what, 3 months now? more? i've been trying to get help from them on what i should do to be saved - which, in their gospel ((which is no gospel at all)), translates to how do i observe new moon festival? and others have been asking them, how do i observe sabbath?

they don't answer; they don't lift a finger to help with the burden they place on my back by their 'knowledge'
-- but you have answered me with comfort and truth. thank you

I did not know that, thank you for pointing it out.

I offer this in support of the Colossians scripture:

What unto me is the multitude of your sacrifices? saith Jehovah: I have had enough of the burnt-offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he-goats. When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to trample my courts? Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; new moon and sabbath, the calling of assemblies, - I cannot away with iniquity and the solemn meeting. Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth; they are a trouble unto me; I am weary of bearing them. And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you; yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood. Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil; learn to do well; seek justice, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow. [Isa 1:11-17]

I don't like to talk about this too much, but these new moon festivals and the like were pagan festivals, sabbath included.

 

[posthuman]

I did not know that, thank you for pointing it out.

I offer this in support of the Colossians scripture:

What unto me is the multitude of your sacrifices? saith Jehovah: I have had enough of the burnt-offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he-goats. When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to trample my courts? Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; new moon and sabbath, the calling of assemblies, - I cannot away with iniquity and the solemn meeting. Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth; they are a trouble unto me; I am weary of bearing them. And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you; yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood. Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil; learn to do well; seek justice, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow. [Isa 1:11-17]

I don't like to talk about this too much, but these new moon festivals and the like were pagan festivals, sabbath included.

Studyman has also said, that the Pharisees made up their own sabbaths and feasts etc, and that when Paul in Galatians for example chides them about observing special days, that they were observing totally made up sabbaths. he has to take this position in order to remain consistent with his position that we must as believers in Christ actually observe 'the real sabbaths, feasts and festivals' -- so wherever the NT indicates we are not required to, it means we're not required to keep the imaginary ones.

problem here is that there's no way to make up an imaginary new moon festival. the moon is up in the sky where everyone can see it, you can't call it a new moon when it's not one. you can possibly fool people by saying, tuesday is going to be a sabbath, a special one in addition to saturdays, and you can possibly fool people by saying some certain day of the year is now going to be a special feast for whatever reason -- but you can't say it's going to be new moon next week, even though the moon is actually at quarter-phase.

and the new moon festival is commanded to be kept in the Law.

several new moons have gone by since i first raised the point, but i haven't been able to get him to either address the issue or to instruct us ((since he makes himself our teacher)) on how we ought to observe it =\

 

[PS]

i believe that on the heights of God's own house, He has built it so that we will not fall off, yes

He would be evil if He commanded us to do so, and did not do so Himself, wouldn't He?
and God is good -- therefore the roof of His house is unquestionably made safe, and He bears no guilt

What you say is true, but personally I'm not sure if I believe in a physical kingdom when I read passage like this:

In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
(1Co 15:52-54 KJV)

But that is another subject.

 

[PS]

Studyman has also said, that the Pharisees made up their own sabbaths and feasts etc, and that when Paul in Galatians for example chides them about observing special days, that they were observing totally made up sabbaths. he has to take this position in order to remain consistent with his position that we must as believers in Christ actually observe 'the real sabbaths, feasts and festivals' -- so wherever the NT indicates we are not required to, it means we're not required to keep the imaginary ones.

problem here is that there's no way to make up an imaginary new moon festival. the moon is up in the sky where everyone can see it, you can't call it a new moon when it's not one. you can possibly fool people by saying, tuesday is going to be a sabbath, a special one in addition to saturdays, and you can possibly fool people by saying some certain day of the year is now going to be a special feast for whatever reason -- but you can't say it's going to be new moon next week, even though the moon is actually at quarter-phase.

and the new moon festival is commanded to be kept in the Law.

several new moons have gone by since i first raised the point, but i haven't been able to get him to either address the issue or to instruct us ((since he makes himself our teacher)) on how we ought to observe it =\

We need to be careful about the teaching of the Pharisees and the Temple cult. There are two messages or themes in the Old Testament, just as there were two conflicting messages in the Garden. The one opposes the other. The Pharisees opposed Jesus. You say God is good and he is, so I beg of people to follow the good and reject the bad. Once we become aware of it we can see it.

Lights out for me.

 

[posthuman]

What you say is true, but personally I'm not sure if I believe in a physical kingdom when I read passage like this:

In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
(1Co 15:52-54 KJV)

But that is another subject.

I am talking about a spiritual house, yes

Good night

 

[LoveGodForever]

the others here, they point at Isaiah 66:23 and say "see? sabbath is mentioned, so you must keep sabbath ((or else!!))" -- but this same verse says new moon festival too, and they are silent on that issue.

if these things argue that sabbath is commanded and we - faith in Christ not being sufficient - will go to hell if we don't ritually, physically observe it, then the exact same arguments also say we must keep new moon festivals or meet the same fate, again, the atonement of Christ's shed blood not making any difference. ((according to their 'gospel'))

so, for what, 3 months now? more? i've been trying to get help from them on what i should do to be saved - which, in their gospel ((which is no gospel at all)), translates to how do i observe new moon festival? and others have been asking them, how do i observe sabbath?

they don't answer; they don't lift a finger to help with the burden they place on my back by their 'knowledge'
-- but you have answered me with comfort and truth. thank you

Hello PH,

I did not think you were serious with your question in relation to NEW MOONS as it has been already answered in the OP if you read it.

Since it seems to be a problem for you let's look at the scruitpures. Do you know what the purpose of the NEW MOON were used for in God's Word?

To help with this answer we need to go back to the creation week.

Genesis 1
14, And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15, And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light on the earth: and it was so.
16, And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

The NEW MOON is to be used as a guide to the yearly calander and was to be a sign for seasons, days and years. It was used to determine the annual festivals from the Mosiac book of the Covenant for remission of sins which was a requirement from God under the OLD Covenant.

Psalms 81
3, Blow up the trumpet in the new moon, in the time appointed, on our solemn feast day.
4, For this was a statute for Israel, and a law of the God of Jacob.

The NEW MOON is a sign for seasons, days and years for ther appointed annual festivals of the OLD Covenant.

1 Chron 23
31, And to offer all burnt sacrifices to the LORD in the sabbaths, in the new moons, and on the set feasts, by number, according to the order commanded to them, continually before the LORD:

2Ch 31:3
He appointed also the king's portion of his substance for the burnt offerings, to wit, for the morning and evening burnt offerings, and the burnt offerings for the sabbaths, and for the new moons, and for the set feasts, as it is written in the law of the LORD.

Ezr 3
5, And afterward offered the continual burnt offering, both of the new moons, and of all the set feasts of the LORD that were consecrated, and of every one that willingly offered a freewill offering to the LORD.

Ezekiel 45
17, And it shall be the prince's part to give burnt offerings, and meat offerings, and drink offerings, in the feasts, and in the new moons, and in the sabbaths, in all solemnities of the house of Israel: he shall prepare the sin offering, and the meat offering, and the burnt offering, and the peace offerings, to make reconciliation for the house of Israel.
18, Thus said the Lord GOD; In the first month, in the first day of the month, you shall take a young bullock without blemish, and cleanse the sanctuary:
19, And the priest shall take of the blood of the sin offering, and put it on the posts of the house, and on the four corners of the settle of the altar, and on the posts of the gate of the inner court.
20, And so you shall do the seventh day of the month for every one that errs, and for him that is simple: so shall you reconcile the house.
21, In the first month, in the fourteenth day of the month, you shall have the passover, a feast of seven days; unleavened bread shall be eaten.
22, And on that day shall the prince prepare for himself and for all the people of the land a bullock for a sin offering.
23, And seven days of the feast he shall prepare a burnt offering to the LORD, seven bullocks and seven rams without blemish daily the seven days; and a kid of the goats daily for a sin offering.
24, And he shall prepare a meat offering of an ephah for a bullock, and an ephah for a ram, and an hin of oil for an ephah.
25, In the seventh month, in the fifteenth day of the month, shall he do the like in the feast of the seven days, according to the sin offering, according to the burnt offering, and according to the meat offering, and according to the oil.

Ok as you can see the NEW MOONS set the timing of the year, seasons and days appointed for the annual festivials, sin offereings and solomn asspemblied for Israel under the OLD COVENANT.

Why do we not follow this now? The remission of SINS of the OLD Covenant are fulfilled in Christ. He is the lamb of God that takes away the SINS of the World (John 1:29; Hebrews Chapters, 7; 8; 9; 10).

Jesus is the true offereing for SINS and our true sacrifice for SIN to which all the SIN Offerings associated with these days and festivals pointed to and are fulfilled in him.

In the OLD Covenant these SIN offereings pointed forward to the coming of the Messaih. Looking back from the NEW Covenant these SIN offering were the SHADOWS pointing to Jesus and teaching God's people the plan of salvation

You my friend do err not knowing the scriptures or the power of God. Yet if you even bothered to read the OP you would already know this.

Hope this helps clear up your confusion.

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In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

May God bless you as you seek him through His Word.

 

[LoveGodForever]

I did not know that, thank you for pointing it out.

I offer this in support of the Colossians scripture:

What unto me is the multitude of your sacrifices? saith Jehovah: I have had enough of the burnt-offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he-goats. When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to trample my courts? Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; new moon and sabbath, the calling of assemblies, - I cannot away with iniquity and the solemn meeting. Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth; they are a trouble unto me; I am weary of bearing them. And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you; yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood. Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil; learn to do well; seek justice, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow. [Isa 1:11-17]

I don't like to talk about this too much, but these new moon festivals and the like were pagan festivals, sabbath included.

Now PS,

You seem to be missing CONTEXT and changing the scriptures here in order you come up with your interpretation.

Isaiah 1
10, Hear the word of the LORD, you rulers of Sodom; GIVE EAR TO THE LAW of our God, you people of Gomorrah.
11, To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices to me? said the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.
12, When you come to appear before me, who has required this at your hand, to tread my courts?
13, Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination to me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.
14, Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hates: they are a trouble to me; I am weary to bear them.

The reference here my friend is to the Annual yearly festivals and the people of God coming to worship him while practicing UNREPENTANT SIN.

v10 GIVE EAR TO THE LAW OF GOD YOU RULERS OF SODOM AND GOMORRAH.

You quoted the scripture as saying SABBATH which sounds like the scripture is in reference to God's 4th Commandment of God's LAW yet you leave out the (S) for plural Sabbaths in reference to the special annual Sabbaths of Lev 23 then leave out v10 Where God says GIVE EAR TO THE LAW. (Dont break it)

This is indeed twisting the scritpure and giving it a new meaning that it is NOT saying and calling God's 4th Commandment a pagen festival only shows you do not know God all the scriptures.

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In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

May God bless you as you seek him through His Word.

 

[LoveGodForever]

LGF says the Christian will go to hell if he breaks commandments.

I do not say this whatsoever. Where have I ever said in your words "Christians will go to hell if they break commandments"?

God's Word says that anyone practicing KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN because by continuing in SIN they have rejected the GIFT of God's dear son. These are God's Words not mine.

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Romans 6
23, For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

You reject God's GIFT by continuing in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN

Act 17
30, And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now <when I knowledge of the truth has come> commands all men every where to repent:

Hebrews 10
26, For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins,
27, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

Hebrews 6
4, For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6, If they shall fall away, to renew them again to repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
7, For the earth which drinks in the rain that comes oft on it, and brings forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receives blessing from God:
8, But that which bears thorns and briers is rejected, and is near to cursing; whose end is to be burned.

1 John 3
3, And every man that has this hope in him purifies himself, even as he is pure.
4, Whoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5, And you know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6, Whosoever stays in him sins not: whoever sins has not seen him, neither known him.
7, Little children, let no man deceive you: he that does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8, He that commits sin is of the devil; for the devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9, Whoever is born of God does not commit sin; for his seed remains in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10, In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his

1 John 2
3, And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4, He that said, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Ezekiel 3
18, When I say to the wicked, You shall surely die; and you give him not warning, nor speak to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at your hand.
19, Yet if you warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but you have delivered your soul.
20, Again, When a righteous man does turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling-block before him, he shall die: because you have not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he has done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at your hand.
21, Nevertheless if you warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he does not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also you have delivered your soul.

Ezekiel 18
20, The soul that sins, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be on him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be on him.

Yep, Only God's Word is true. Those who practice KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

This includes bearing false witness.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)


In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

May God bless you as you seek him through His Word.

 

[justpassinthrough]

If you walk with Jesus you will know how to observe it...HE is our Teacher....NOT men teaching each other ! why do you blame others for your own lack of understanding ? STUDY to show yourself approved !

Study to to show yourself approved.

Walk with Jesus and I will know how to observe.

You sound confused.



I do walk with Jesus and He directed me to these scriptures to study.


16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, 17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.
Colossians 2:16-17


and again


5 One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike.Let each be fully convinced in his own mind.
Romans 14:5


Here are two scriptures that show us it’s up to us how we observe one day over another because the substance is Christ.


What I have asked for is scripture from the New Testament that instructs the Church how to observe the Sabbath.


Do you you have any such scripture?

No.

Not one single solitary scripture in the New Testament that instructs the Church how to specifically observe the Sabbath.

ZERO!


JPT

 

[Studyman]

Studyman has also said, that the Pharisees made up their own sabbaths and feasts etc, and that when Paul in Galatians for example chides them about observing special days, that they were observing totally made up sabbaths. he has to take this position in order to remain consistent with his position that we must as believers in Christ actually observe 'the real sabbaths, feasts and festivals' -- so wherever the NT indicates we are not required to, it means we're not required to keep the imaginary ones.

problem here is that there's no way to make up an imaginary new moon festival. the moon is up in the sky where everyone can see it, you can't call it a new moon when it's not one. you can possibly fool people by saying, tuesday is going to be a sabbath, a special one in addition to saturdays, and you can possibly fool people by saying some certain day of the year is now going to be a special feast for whatever reason -- but you can't say it's going to be new moon next week, even though the moon is actually at quarter-phase.

and the new moon festival is commanded to be kept in the Law.

several new moons have gone by since i first raised the point, but i haven't been able to get him to either address the issue or to instruct us ((since he makes himself our teacher)) on how we ought to observe it =\

Matt. 15:7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.


It is not me you mock, or my words that you reject, but Jesus Himself.


It is not, nor ever was against God's Laws to walk and eat a strawberry on His Sabbath that you reject. It was against the "Commandments(Laws) of men" that Jesus said they created their doctrines from.

"We have a Law and by our Law He should die". Surely you don't preach that the Law and Prophets condemned Jesus to death. Yet the Pharisees Law did.

Can you find God's Laws which show the Disciples were sinning by eating a snack before washing their hands? Of course not, Why? Because the Pharisees had created their own Laws they called "The Laws of Moses". And your unbelief doesn't make God's Word void. As it is written "Let God be true and every man a liar".

It is Jesus and His Word who teaches that the Pharisees created their own religion with their images of God. We know it now as the Talmud. So it isn't me teaching the Pharisees had created their own Sabbaths, it is the God of the Bible.

Col. 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

You preach that this is God's Instructions. Jesus followed God's Laws perfectly. Are you preaching that Jesus qualified to pay our death by following "rudiments of the world? Vain Deceits and traditions of men?

1 Cor. 15:58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.

Is Passover a "work of the Lord". Is God's Sabbath that Jesus created for man a "work of the Lord". How about Loving your neighbor as yourself? How about Feast on Unleavened Bread?

How about Christmas, Lent, Halloween, are these a "Work of the Lord" or traditions of men? Is the law prohibiting Gentiles access to God a "work of the Lord" or Commandment of men?

Col. 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

What Laws of God killed Jesus? Who condemned Jesus, God's Laws or Man's Laws?

15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

Was God the Principality and power that killed Jesus that He Spoiled? Did Jesus battle against God and make a Show of God openly on the cross? Did Jesus battle against God and "Triumph" over Him?

Of course not. Yet this is what you preach.

It wasn't God's Laws that were the problem with the mainstream religion of His time, it was the doctrines and traditions of men that had been taught as Law for centuries.

I asked you many of these questions before in the Col. 2 thread I posted and you hid from the questions, deflected and changed the subject.

Of course you did.

 

[Studyman]

I did not know that, thank you for pointing it out.

I offer this in support of the Colossians scripture:

What unto me is the multitude of your sacrifices? saith Jehovah: I have had enough of the burnt-offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he-goats. When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to trample my courts? Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; new moon and sabbath, the calling of assemblies, - I cannot away with iniquity and the solemn meeting. Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth; they are a trouble unto me; I am weary of bearing them. And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you; yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood. Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil; learn to do well; seek justice, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow. [Isa 1:11-17]

I don't like to talk about this too much, but these new moon festivals and the like were pagan festivals, sabbath included.

It seems you may have omitted the very meat of the message Jesus, before becoming a man, sent Isaiah to show us. Omitting scriptures that might change the tradition or doctrine that one might be pushing is common, and many do this without even thinking about it. Let's include the rest of what Jesus told Isaiah.

Is. 1:2 Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the LORD hath spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me.3 The ox knoweth his owner, and the ass his master's crib: but Israel doth not know, my people doth not consider.
4 Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the LORD, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward.

It seems these people were already in disobedience and dishonor to God and His Instructions.

10 Hear the word of the LORD, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah.

11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.
12 When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?
13 Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.
14 Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.

15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.

What good is it to partake in Passover and Feast of Unleavened Bread if there is no real repentance and effort to obey?

16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;

17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.

These, like the Pharisees, has omitted the "weightier matters of the Law" like judgment and mercy. They should have done these, and not to leave the other undone.

18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:

Jesus repeated this very sentiment in John 14.

23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.




Is. 1:26 And I will restore thy judges as at the first, and thy counsellors as at the beginning: afterward thou shalt be called, The city of righteousness, the faithful city.
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Zion shall be redeemed with judgment, and her converts with righteousness.

Is. 2:2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

Is. 66:21 And I will also take of them for priests and for Levites, saith the LORD.
22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

So to use a couple sentences from the middle of one chapter in Isaiah to preach that God's "Feasts" are Pagan or as you imply in Col. 2,"rudiments of the World" doesn't fit with the rest of Isaiah's prophesies, or the entire teaching of the Law and Prophets for that matter.

I understand the battle against the Word of God which started with the serpent using parts of God's Word to deceive Eve.

Rev. 14:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

I truly hope you might consider this battle and not be swept away with it.

 

[Endoscopy]

I do not say this whatsoever. Where have I ever said in your words "Christians will go to hell if they break commandments"?

God's Word says that anyone practicing KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN because by continuing in SIN they have rejected the GIFT of God's dear son. These are God's Words not mine.

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Romans 6
23, For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

You reject God's GIFT by continuing in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN

Act 17
30, And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now <when I knowledge of the truth has come> commands all men every where to repent:

Hebrews 10
26, For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins,
27, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

Hebrews 6
4, For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6, If they shall fall away, to renew them again to repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
7, For the earth which drinks in the rain that comes oft on it, and brings forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receives blessing from God:
8, But that which bears thorns and briers is rejected, and is near to cursing; whose end is to be burned.

1 John 3
3, And every man that has this hope in him purifies himself, even as he is pure.
4, Whoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5, And you know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6, Whosoever stays in him sins not: whoever sins has not seen him, neither known him.
7, Little children, let no man deceive you: he that does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8, He that commits sin is of the devil; for the devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9, Whoever is born of God does not commit sin; for his seed remains in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10, In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his

1 John 2
3, And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4, He that said, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Ezekiel 3
18, When I say to the wicked, You shall surely die; and you give him not warning, nor speak to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at your hand.
19, Yet if you warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but you have delivered your soul.
20, Again, When a righteous man does turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling-block before him, he shall die: because you have not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he has done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at your hand.
21, Nevertheless if you warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he does not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also you have delivered your soul.

Ezekiel 18
20, The soul that sins, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be on him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be on him.

Yep, Only God's Word is true. Those who practice KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

This includes bearing false witness.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)


In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

May God bless you as you seek him through His Word.

It is obvious to the casual observer that you don't want people to read your posts. The longer the post the fewerfwill read it!!!

 

[LoveGodForever]

Yet another post from you with not one single scripture from the New Testament that instructs us how to observe the Sabbath under the New Covenant. Not one. JLB

Yes indeed it is hard to see when you close your eyes. You can keep your eyes closed all you like my friend. When you open them again the scritpures are there for all to see.

It seems it is true in your view......

Jesus did not teach that it is lawful to do GOOD on the Sabbath? (Matt 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56)

Jesus in your view did not teach that God's Sabbath was made for man kind and not man for the Sabbath rebuking the tradtions of the Jew in regards to their interpretation around Sabbath keeping? (Mark 2:27-28; Matthew 12:8)

Jesus in your view, did not teach that he was the maker and creator of the Sabbath and the God of creation? (Hebrews 1:2; John 1:1-3; 14; Ephesians 3:9; Colossians 1:16-17; Mark 2:27)

Jesus in your view is not our example who kept the Sabbath as well as all those who followed him (Matt 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56; John 2:6; Matt 16:24; Acts 13:14; 13:27; 13:44; 15:21; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4; Rev 1:10)

It is hard to see when your eyes are closed.

In your view Jesus was lying when he said those that break God's Commandments and teach others to do so will not enter God's Kingdom?

In your view Jesus was lying when he said not a jot or tittle will pass from God's LAW until heaven and earth pass away? Now we havent even started on the Aposltes then again if you do not BELIEVE Jesus how will you BELIEVE his discples?

It seems you believe Jesus and the Apostles are all lying and the Bible is not true?

You teach others to brake God's Commandments this is something Jesus and the Apostles NEVER did.

Those who do such things do not enter into God's KINGDOM. This is sad for you my friend. Jesus is calling you my friend but you do not hear him. When your lamp has gone out how can you find your way when the road is dark and narrow is the way? God's Sheep hear his Voice.

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In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

May God bless you as you seek him through His Word.

 

[LoveGodForever]

Study to to show yourself approved. I do walk with Jesus and He directed me to these scriptures to study. 16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, 17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ. Colossians 2:16-17

Great this is the scritpure the OP is about did you have anything to share about the OP which shows your interpretation of the scriptures in not biblical?

and again 5 One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike.Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. Romans 14:5

And where in the Chapter of Romans 14 does it say that is it rederring to God's 4th Commandment and the 4th Commandment is now abolished and we are commanded to keep Sunday now as a Holy day? You seem a bit mixed up Romans 14 is talking about food and drink and fasting connected to days and says nothing about the 4th Commandment.

Here are two scriptures that show us it’s up to us how we observe one day over another because the substance is Christ. What I have asked for is scripture from the New Testament that instructs the Church how to observe the Sabbath. Do you you have any such scripture? No. Not one single solitary scripture in the New Testament that instructs the Church how to specifically observe the Sabbath. ZERO!
JPT

Yep hard to see the scriptures if you close your eyes.....

Jesus taught that it is lawful to do GOOD on the Sabbath? (Matt 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56)

Jesus taught that God's Sabbath was made for man kind and not man for the Sabbath rebuking the tradtions of the Jew in regards to their interpretation around Sabbath keeping? (Mark 2:27-28; Matthew 12:8)

Jesus taught that he was the maker and creator of the Sabbath and the God of creation? (Hebrews 1:2; John 1:1-3; 14; Ephesians 3:9; Colossians 1:16-17; Mark 2:27)

Jesus is our example who kept the Sabbath as well as all those who followed him (Matt 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56; John 2:6; Matt 16:24; Acts 13:14; 13:27; 13:44; 15:21; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4; Rev 1:10)

Paul says that God's people did not enter into God's Sabbath rest because they did not BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's Word and this is a lesson for all those today that follow God (Hebrews 4:1-11)

James teaches that if we break one of the 10 Commandments we stand guilty before God in SIN and breaking all of them (James 2:8-12)

Yep it is hard to see if you close your eyes or when the road is dark and narrow when your lamp goes out.

Only God's Word is true and we should BELIEVE and follow it.

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In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

May God bless you as you seek him through His Word.

 

[PS]

Now PS,

You seem to be missing CONTEXT and changing the scriptures here in order you come up with your interpretation.

Isaiah 1
10, Hear the word of the LORD, you rulers of Sodom; GIVE EAR TO THE LAW of our God, you people of Gomorrah.
11, To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices to me? said the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.
12, When you come to appear before me, who has required this at your hand, to tread my courts?
13, Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination to me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.
14, Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hates: they are a trouble to me; I am weary to bear them.

The reference here my friend is to the Annual yearly festivals and the people of God coming to worship him while practicing UNREPENTANT SIN.

v10 GIVE EAR TO THE LAW OF GOD YOU RULERS OF SODOM AND GOMORRAH.

You quoted the scripture as saying SABBATH which sounds like the scripture is in reference to God's 4th Commandment of God's LAW yet you leave out the (S) for plural Sabbaths in reference to the special annual Sabbaths of Lev 23 then leave out v10 Where God says GIVE EAR TO THE LAW. (Dont break it)

This is indeed twisting the scritpure and giving it a new meaning that it is NOT saying and calling God's 4th Commandment a pagen festival only shows you do not know God all the scriptures.

Are you blind!

Why are you promoting the very thing God hates?

 

[LoveGodForever]

Are you blind!

Why are you promoting the very thing God hates?

You are mixed up read v10 you left out of your post and the S you did not add on to Sabbaths.

It is SIN God hates not his own law that he made for people to keep.

v10 GIVE EAR TO THE LAW OF GOD YOU RULERS OF SODOM AND GOMORRAH.

Only God's Word is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it. KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will keep all those who practice it out of God's KINGDOM

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In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

May God bless you as you seek him through His Word.

 

[Shamah]

Are you blind!

Why are you promoting the very thing God hates?

Isaiah 1 shows YHWH hates when people transgrees the Sabbath and call it acceptable toi YHWH. You are actually claiming YHWH hates the Sabbath He has made?...

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isaiah 58:11-14, "YHWH will guide you continually, and satisfy your soul in drought, and make fat; (strengthen), your bones. You will be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters do not fail. And those of you will rebuild the old waste places; you will raise up the foundations of many generations; and you will be called the Repairer of the Breach, the Restorer of Streets to Dwell In; If you turn away your foot from breaking the Sabbath: from doing your pleasure; your own business, your own pleasure, on My holy day, and call the Sabbath a delight; the holy day of YHWH honorable, and will honor Him by not doing your own ways, nor finding your own pleasure, nor engaging in idle conversation: Then you will find your joy in YHWH; and I will cause you to ride on the high places of the earth, and feed you with the heritage of Yaaqob your father, for the mouth of YHWH has spoken it."[/FONT]

 

[PS]

It seems you may have omitted the very meat of the message Jesus, before becoming a man, sent Isaiah to show us. Omitting scriptures that might change the tradition or doctrine that one might be pushing is common, and many do this without even thinking about it. Let's include the rest of what Jesus told Isaiah.

Is. 1:2 Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the LORD hath spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me.3 The ox knoweth his owner, and the ass his master's crib: but Israel doth not know, my people doth not consider.
4 Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the LORD, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward.

It seems these people were already in disobedience and dishonor to God and His Instructions.

10 Hear the word of the LORD, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah.

11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.
12 When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?
13 Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.
14 Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.

15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.

What good is it to partake in Passover and Feast of Unleavened Bread if there is no real repentance and effort to obey?

16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;

17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.

These, like the Pharisees, has omitted the "weightier matters of the Law" like judgment and mercy. They should have done these, and not to leave the other undone.

18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:

Jesus repeated this very sentiment in John 14.

23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.




Is. 1:26 And I will restore thy judges as at the first, and thy counsellors as at the beginning: afterward thou shalt be called, The city of righteousness, the faithful city.
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Zion shall be redeemed with judgment, and her converts with righteousness.

Is. 2:2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

Is. 66:21 And I will also take of them for priests and for Levites, saith the LORD.
22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

So to use a couple sentences from the middle of one chapter in Isaiah to preach that God's "Feasts" are Pagan or as you imply in Col. 2,"rudiments of the World" doesn't fit with the rest of Isaiah's prophesies, or the entire teaching of the Law and Prophets for that matter.

I understand the battle against the Word of God which started with the serpent using parts of God's Word to deceive Eve.

Rev. 14:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

I truly hope you might consider this battle and not be swept away with it.

They were a disobedient people, correct. So we learn from their mistakes and do not do as they did in their heathenism.