GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

[Jackson123]

Yes indeed that is what everyone has been trying to tell you but you keep wanting to kill the Sabbath violator from the CIVIL law of the Old Covenant.



I see so where is the scripture that says in Matthew 25 that Jesus is going to Judge the the people based on LOVE and not accoriding to God's Sabbath?

Please do not misunderstand this question, I believe everyone will be judged on wheather they LOVE or not. But your understanding on what the bible means to LOVE I think is different to mine. LOVE is the fulfilling of God's LAW in those who BELIEVE God's WORD.

Let's look at what it means to LOVE in God's Word.....

GODS LAW AND LOVE ARE ONE

You cannot separate God’s Law of love from the 10 commandments because they are connected to each other. There is no need for confusion here. God’s Word makes it very clear.

Let's have a look..........

What does Jesus say when he talk about the commandments. Jesus is quoting from Old testament scriptures of Deuteronomy 6:5 and Leviticus 19:18.................

Matthew 22
36, Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37, Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38, This is the first and great commandment.
39, And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40, ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS HANG ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS.

Let's get clearer..............

Matthew 19
16, And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17, And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: BUT IF YOU WILL ENTER INTO LIFE KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS.
18, He saith unto him, WHICH? JESUS SAID, THOU SHALT NOT MURDER, THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, THOU SHALT NOT STEAL, THOU SHALT NOT LIE, HONOR YOU MOTHER AND FATHER AND THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF
20, The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? 21, Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. <Jesus showed him that he may have fulfilled His duty of love to his neighbor but not to God breaking commandment 1 and 2 loving riches more than God>

Well Jesus makes it very clear that what he is talking about it is the 10 commandments of God's Law.

What about James...............

James 2
8, If ye fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF, ye do well:
9, But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
10, FOR WHOSOEVER SHALL KEEP THE WHOLE LAW AND YET OFFEND IN ONE POINT, HE SHALL BE GUILTY OF ALL.
11, FOR HE THAT SAID, DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY SAID ALSO DO NOT KILL. NOW IF YOU DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY AND YOU KILL, YOU HAVE BECOME A TRANSGRESSOR OF GOD'S LAW.
12, So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

Well James makes it very clear what he is talking about when he talks about the Royal Law of love. He is talking about the 10 commandments. So Jesus and James both agree that they are talking about God's 10 commandments which also include the 4th commandment which is one of the ten.

What about Paul? He wrote a lot of books in God's Word.............

Romans 13
8, Owe no man any thing, but to LOVE ONE ANOTHER: for HE THAT LOVES ANOTHER HAS FULFILLED THE LAW.
9, For this, THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, THOU SHALT NOT KILL, THOU SHALT NOT STEAL, THOU SHALT NOT LIE, THOU SHALT NOT COVET; and IF THERE SHALL BE ANY OTHER COMMANDMENT, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF.
10, Love works no ill to his neighbour: therefore LOVE IS THE FULFILLING OF THE LAW.

Paul makes it very clear what he is talking about as well when he is talking about God's Law. It seems like Jesus, James and Paul all agree together what it is they are referring to when talking about God's Law. They are all referring to God's 10 commandments which includes the 4th commandment which is one of the ten (Exodus 20:1-17)

So now that God's Word shows us what it is referring to. No need to guess, what are talking about, God’s Law of Love is God's 10 commandments. It is only through Faith that works by love that anyone can walk in the Spirit which produces the FRUIT of OBEDIENCE because LOVE is the FUFULLING of God’s Law in those that walk by faith and not by sight.

SO ONCE AGAIN KNOWN SIN (BREAKING ANY OF GOD'S 10 COMMANDMENTS) WILL KEEP ALL WHO PRACTICE IT OUT OF GOD'S KINGDOM. This includes the 4th Commandment which is one of the 10 Commandments.

Everything else you are only repeating my friend has already been ansswered with ths scriptures that you have rejected.

It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God (Hebrews 10:26-27; 31)

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In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30-31).

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

Matt 25
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

Look friend, this is last judgement. If you love the needy mean you love God, where Jesus say, you go to hell because you not observe sabbath ?

and you not unswere my question

you say, Mosaic civil law not valid, why you not cook oN sabbath, and I believe you not Eat pork don't you?

 

[LoveGodForever]

Matt 25
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

Look friend, this is last judgement. If you love the needy mean you love God, where Jesus say, you go to hell because you not observe sabbath ?

and you not unswere my question

you say, Mosaic civil law not valid, why you not cook oN sabbath, and I believe you not Eat pork don't you?

Hello Jackson,

The scriptures you quote above are not the Judgement my friend they are referring to the 2nd coming.......

v31 WHEN THE SON OF MAN SHALL COME IN HIS GLORY, AND ALL THE HOLY ANGELS WITH HIM, THEN SHALL HE SIT ON HIS THRONE OF GLORY:

Your questions have been answered with God's Word but you do not believe the scriptures..... The CIVIL LAW for Israel is not NEW COVENANT - Post # 3426; Post # 3721...... COOKING on Sabbath - POST # 3654; Post # 3726.

Ignroing the posts and the scriptures sent to you my friend does not make God's Word disappear. They are there for all to see. You do not BELIEVE. I do not judge you. This is between you and God.

Now did you answer my question...........

Where is the scripture that says in Matthew 25 that Jesus is going to Judge the the people based on LOVE and not accoriding to God's Sabbath?

The post you quoted from shows scriptures that say that LOVE is the fulfilling of God's LAW (10 Commandments) through FAITH. DO you not BELIEGVE them? Only the BELIEVERS and FOLLOWERS of God's WORD are God's people. LOVE to God and your fellow MAN is indeed the fulfilling of God's LAW in those who BELIEVE.

LOVE is expressed in ACTIONS as described in Matthew 25 to your neigbor. How is LOVE expressed in action to God?

There are two great Commandments on which ALL the LAW and the prophets hang (LOVE to GOD and LOVE to MAN)

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In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30-31).

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

 

[LoveGodForever]

the commands John was referring to in His first letter are believe in the name of the Son and love one another. chapter 3. not Sabbath more versed yanked out of context with Sabbath keeping ellen white propaganda attached, instead of accepting clear meaning.

Hello my friend,

You are ignoring the CONTEXT and the scriptures around LOVE and FAITH which produces the FRUIT of OBEDIENCE. Let's look at the CONTEXT of the scriptures you refer to from 1 John 3:23-24...........

Well that once again has no truth in it whatsoever. Let's look at the scripture you quote and what you are saying....

Firstly you try and say God's LAW (10 Commandments) are no longer required and all we need to do is to BELIEVE on the name of Jesus and to love one another. I agree and have no problem with this scripture. You are referring to 1 John 3:23 which says...

1 John 3
23, And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

Now question time...

What does it mean to BELIEVE on the NAME of Jesus and to LOVE one another.........

Jesus is the Word of God (John 1:1-14) his name is Jesus because he will save his people from their SINS (Matt 1:21)

So to BELIEVE means to BELIEVE and FOLLOW all the Word of God BELIEVING that it is the WORD of GOD that saves us. The CONTEXT of this scripture however is SIN which is spoken of in 1 John 2:3-4 and continues in 1 John 3:3-15

How does God's Word define SIN...........

James 2
8, If ye fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself, ye do well:
9, But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
10, For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, YOU ARE BECOME A TRANSGRESSOR OF GOD'S LAW
James is pretty clear if we brake ANY of God's Law (10 commandments) then we are a TRANSGRESSOR of God's LAW

links to...........

1 John 3
4 Whosoever commits SIN transgresses also the law: for SIN is the transgression of the law.
John is in agreement with James and states that if we TRANSGRESS God's LAW then we commit SIN because SIN IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF GOD'S LAW. So it is very clear that SIN is breaking ANY of God's LAW (10 commandments)
Links to...........

Romans 7
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known SIN, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

Well here we have Paul in agreement with James and John also telling us that SIN is breaking God's commandments and uses the 10th commandment as an example of breaking any of God's LAW (10 commandments) = SIN (Exodus 20:17)

Links to............

Romans 3
20, Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: FOR BY THE LAW IS THE KNOWLEDGE OF SIN.
Once again Paul is in agreement with John and James which all agree together that if we break any of God's LAW (10 commandments) we commit SIN because as James, John and Paul all agree together that SIN is breaking ANY of God's 10 commandments.

God's Word is in disagreement with you my friend. SIN is the transgression of God's LAW (10 commandments)

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) and like any of the ten, if we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

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God's Word says SIN in breaking God's LAW; Now that we have the definition of Sin from God’s WORD let’s connect some of the scriptures…..

1 John 3
3, And every man that hath this hope in him purifies himself, even as he is pure.
4, Whosoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for SIN IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF GOD'S LAW.
5, And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6, Whosoever abides in him SIN<breaks God's LAW> not: whosoever SIN<breaks God's LAW> hath not seen him, neither known him.
7, Little children, let no man deceive you: he that does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous <Psalms 119:172 All your commandments = RIGHTEOUSNESS>.
8, He that commits SIN<breaks God's LAW> is of the devil; for the devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9, Whosoever is born of God DOES NOT commit SIN<breaks God's LAW>; for his seed remains in him: and he cannot SIN<breaks God's LAW>, because he is born of God.
10, In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother.
11, For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
12, Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
13, Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.
14, We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loves not his brother abides in death.
15, Whosoever hates his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

Some key points..........

v4. SIN = Breaking God's Commandments
v6. Those who knowingly break God's commandments do not know God
v7. Don't be DECEIVED only those who DO NOT break God's commandments are is RIGHTEOUS as HE IS RIGHTEOUS
v8. If you are living in a life of KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN you are following the DEVIL and not GOD (Acts 17:30-31; Heb 10:26:27)
v9. If you are BORN OF GOD you will NOT practice SIN
v10. LOVE AND OBEDIENCE to GOD'S LAW SHOW WHO ARE GOD'S PEOPLE and DISOBEDIENCE TO GOD'S LAW SHOW THE CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL
v15. Example of the 7th commandment (Exodus 20: 13) being broken. Those who brake God's LAW and SIN DO NOT have ETERNAL LIFE

Links to what Jesus says in Matthew..............

Matthew 7
21, Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; BUT HE THE DOES THE WILL OF MY FATHER IN HEAVEN <FAITH THAT WORKS BY Love and OBEDIENCE>
22, Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23, And then will I profess unto them, I NEVER KNEW YOU <1 John 3:6 = has not seen him or known him because they break God's LAW and practice SIN>: DEPART FROM ME YOU WHO WORK INIQUITY (SIN)

Now all of the above is the CONTEXT of 1 John 3:23-24 which is to love one another. Now lets look at LOVE and how it links to FAITH and OBEDIENCE.

LOVE IS THE FULFILLING OF GOD’S LAW

You cannot separate God’s Law of love from the 10 commandments because they are connected to each other. There is no need for confusion here. God’s Word makes it very clear.

Let's have a look..................

What does Jesus say when he talk about the commandments. Jesus is quoting from Old testament scriptures of Deuteronomy 6:5 and Leviticus 19:18.................

Matthew 22
36, Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37, Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38, This is the first and great commandment.
39, And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
40, ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS HANG ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS.

Let's get clearer............................

Matthew 19
16, And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17, And he said unto him, Why call thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: BUT IF YOU WILL ENTER INTO LIFE KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS.
18, He saith unto him, WHICH? JESUS SAID, THOU SHALT NOT MURDER, THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, THOU SHALT NOT STEAL, THOU SHALT NOT LIE, HONOR YOU MOTHER AND FATHER AND THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF
20, The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? 21, Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

<Jesus showed him that he may have fulfilled His duty of love to his neighbor but not to God breaking commandment 1 and 2 loving riches more than God>

Well Jesus makes it very clear that what he is talking about it is the 10 commandments of God's Law.

What about James......................

James 2
8, If ye fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF, ye do well:
9, But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
10, FOR WHOSOEVER SHALL KEEP THE WHOLE LAW AND YET OFFEND IN ONE POINT, HE SHALL BE GUILTY OF ALL.
11, FOR HE THAT SAID, DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY SAID ALSO DO NOT KILL. NOW IF YOU DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY AND YOU KILL, YOU HAVE BECOME A TRANSGRESSOR OF GOD'S LAW.
12, So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

Well James makes it very clear what he is talking about when he talks about the Royal Law of love. He is talking about the 10 commandments. So Jesus and James both agree that they are talking about God's 10 commandments which also include the 4th commandment which is one of the ten.

What about Paul? He wrote a lot of books in God's Word...........................

Romans 13
8, Owe no man anything, but to LOVE ONE ANOTHER: for HE THAT LOVES ANOTHER HAS FULFILLED THE LAW.
9, For this, THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, THOU SHALT NOT KILL, THOU SHALT NOT STEAL, THOU SHALT NOT LIE, THOU SHALT NOT COVET; and IF THERE SHALL BE ANY OTHER COMMANDMENT, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF.
10, Love works no ill to his neighbor: therefore LOVE IS THE FULFILLING OF THE LAW.

Paul makes it very clear what he is talking about as well when he is talking about God's Law. It seems like Jesus, James and Paul all agree together what it is they are referring to when talking about God's Law. They are all referring to God's 10 commandments which includes the 4th commandment which is one of the ten (Exodus 20:1-17)

So now that God's Word shows us what it is referring to. No need to guess, what are talking about, God’s Law of Love is God's 10 commandments. It is only through Faith that works by love that anyone can walk in the Spirit which produces the fruit of obedience because love is the fulfilling of God’s Law in those that walk by faith and not by sight.

Now let's look at the CONTEXT of the scripture you quoted from 1 John 3:22. Lovely scripture by the way.

1 John 3:22
23, And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and LOVE ONE ANOTHER, as he gave us commandment.

Now as we have seen above God's LAW (10 commandments) through LOVE is the fulfillment of God's LAW who have FAITH. Now is that the same for this scripture here in John?

Let's look at the CONTEXT of 1 John 3:23...............

1 John 3
3, And every man that hath this hope in him purifies himself, even as he is pure.
4, Whosoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5, And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6, Whosoever abides in him sins not: whosoever sins hath not seen him, neither known him.
7, Little children, let no man deceive you: he that does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8, He that commits sin is of the devil; for the devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9, Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remains in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10, In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother.
11, For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
12, Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
13, Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.
14, We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loves not his brother abides in death.
15, Whosoever hates his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

So it looks like Jesus, James, Paul and John all agree together so it is unanimous that God's Law (10 commandments) are all tied to LOVE which is the power of God unto salvation through Faith. The FRUIT of FAITH is OBEDIENCE and the fulfilling of God's LAW in the hearts of those who walk by FAITH in the SPIRIT (Romans 8:1-4)

So my friend the FRUIT of FAITH is OBEDIENCE to God's LAW (10 commandments) If you have no FRUIT then you need to be aware that your tree will be CUT DOWN. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God (Hebrews 10:26-27; 31)

DISAGREE? Please state your case and use God's Word. It is only on the Word of God we stand or fall. It looks like you have fallen. Only God's Word is true and we should BELIEVE and follow him who LOVES us.

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God's 4th Commandment is one of the 10 Commandments (Exodus 20:8-11). If we break any of God’s Laws we stand guilty before God in SIN (James 2:11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4; Romans 3:20). This includes the 4th commandment which is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11)

 

[Jackson123]

Hello Jackson,

The scriptures you quote above are not the Judgement my friend they are referring to the 2nd coming.......

v31 WHEN THE SON OF MAN SHALL COME IN HIS GLORY, AND ALL THE HOLY ANGELS WITH HIM, THEN SHALL HE SIT ON HIS THRONE OF GLORY:

Your questions have been answered with God's Word but you do not believe the scriptures..... The CIVIL LAW for Israel is not NEW COVENANT - Post # 3426; Post # 3721...... COOKING on Sabbath - POST # 3654; Post # 3726.

Ignroing the posts and the scriptures sent to you my friend does not make God's Word disappear. They are there for all to see. You do not BELIEVE. I do not judge you. This is between you and God.

Now did you answer my question...........

Where is the scripture that says in Matthew 25 that Jesus is going to Judge the the people based on LOVE and not accoriding to God's Sabbath?

The post you quoted from shows scriptures that say that LOVE is the fulfilling of God's LAW (10 Commandments) through FAITH. DO you not BELIEGVE them? Only the BELIEVERS and FOLLOWERS of God's WORD are God's people. LOVE to God and your fellow MAN is indeed the fulfilling of God's LAW in those who BELIEVE.

LOVE is expressed in ACTIONS as described in Matthew 25 to your neigbor. How is LOVE expressed in action to God?

There are two great Commandments on which ALL the LAW and the prophets hang (LOVE to GOD and LOVE to MAN)

.................

In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30-31).

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

Read verse 34 friend

This is judgement, Jesus decide who go to heaven and If you read to verse 41 or more Jesus tell who go to hell

nothing say you go to hell because you not observe sabbath

and you not answere my question why you not cook oN sabbath, the reason you was give me is a mosaic law verse. Don't you say mosaic law not valid?

 

[LoveGodForever]

Read verse 34 friend This is judgement, Jesus decide who go to heaven and If you read to verse 41 or more Jesus tell who go to hell nothing say you go to hell because you not observe sabbat and you not answere my question why you not cook oN sabbath, the reason you was give me is a mosaic law verse. Don't you say mosaic law not valid?

Ok freind it is between you and God. You have been warned. Your SINS are between you and God. It is God's Word that will judge us all in the last days. SIN will keep all who practice it out of God's KINGDOM

 

[Jackson123]

Ok freind it is between you and God. You have been warned. Your SINS are between you and God. It is God's Word that will judge us all in the last days. SIN will keep all who practice it out of God's KINGDOM

This exactly I Will tell you my friend, I warn you to repent and follow new covenant.

you say mosaic law not valid, and not cooking is mosaic law. I hope you aware this doctrine is not honest

if you not follow mosaic law, than Eat pork is ok, cooking oN sabbath is ok

if you follow mosaic law, than not cook in sabbath, kill sabbath violator, etc

 

[LoveGodForever]

This exactly I Will tell you my friend, I warn you to repent and follow new covenant.
you say mosaic law not valid, and not cooking is mosaic law. I hope you aware this doctrine is not honest if you not follow mosaic law, than Eat pork is ok, cooking oN sabbath is ok if you follow mosaic law, than not cook in sabbath, kill sabbath violator, etc

He tells me it is those that see that do not see. These are they that have once known him or do not know him. Who am I that he should choose me out of the world? I am no one but he is all.

If I did not believe him I would not know him. What can I do without him? He is love and now I love. I follow him now because I love him who first loved me.

I do not judge you but His Word will judge us because they are there for all to see. All are welcome to see and hear God's Word, however many are called but few are chosen.

Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils but His Word is promises to deliver us and it is here we must find safety.

We ought to obey God rather than man. God is love and he that dwells in love dwells in God

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In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30-31).

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

 

[Jackson123]

He tells me it is those that see that do not see. These are they that have once known him or do not know him. Who am I that he should choose me out of the world? I am no one but he is all.

If I did not believe him I would not know him. What can I do without him? He is love and now I love. I follow him now because I love him who first loved me.

I do not judge you but His Word will judge us because they are there for all to see. All are welcome to see and hear God's Word, however many are called but few are chosen.

Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils but His Word is promises to deliver us and it is here we must find safety.

We ought to obey God rather than man. God is love and he that dwells in love dwells in God

.................

In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30-31).

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

Friend,

1. make sure you know that matt 25 is a judgement, and Jesus not mention a sabbath,

2. You say mosaic law is not valid but you not cook because mosaic law.

 

[LoveGodForever]

Friend, 1. make sure you know that matt 25 is a judgement, and Jesus not mention a sabbath,
2. You say mosaic law is not valid but you not cook because mosaic law.

Hello my friend, you are indeed confused. The judgement is over SIN because it is SIN that will keep all who practice it out of God's Kinfdom.

Those practicing sin will not be saved on the day of Judgement ….


The scripture says it is only those that hear and believe God’s Word that receive everlasting life and are not condemned and have passed from death to life. It is God’s Word not mine that says……

Psalms 1:5
Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.

Psalms 9:8
And he shall judge the world in righteousness, he shall minister judgment to the people in uprightness.

Ecclesiastes 12:14
For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

Matthew 12:36,
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

John 9:39,
And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind

Act 17:31,
Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

Romans 2:5,
But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;

Romans 2:6,
Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

2 Corinthians 5:10,
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

2 Corinthians 5:11,
Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.

Hebrews 9:27,
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Hebrews 10:26,
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Hebrews 10:27,
But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

James 2:12,
So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

James 2:13,
For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.

2 Peter 2:9
The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:

2 Peter 3:7,
But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.


Jude 1:14-15,
Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him

Revelation 14:7 Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

Daniel 7:10
A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.

Revelations 20:12
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

Psalms 119:172,
My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy commandments are “righteousness”.

Hebrew meaning righteousness צדק tsedeq tseh'-dek From H6663; the right (natural, moral or legal) morally and legally right; righteous צדּיק tsaddı̂yq tsad-deek' From H6663; just: - just, lawful, righteous (man).

Greek meaning righteousness δικαιοσύνηdikaiosunēdik-ah-yos-oo'-nay From G1342; equity (of character or act); specifically (Christian) justification: - righteousness.
righteous δίκαιος dikaios dik'-ah-yos From G1349; equitable (right doing in character or act); by implication innocent, holy (absolutely or relatively): - just, meet, right (-eous)

So from God’s Word we have the definition of righteousness. God says the definition of “righteousness” according to His Word is his 10 commandments The Hebrew and Greek meaning of righteousness is to be morally and legally right; lawful character of act, innocent and holy (right doing).

Psalms 119:142,
Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the truth.

Psalms 9:8
And he shall judge the world in righteousness, he shall minister judgment to the people in uprightness.

Act 17:31
Because he hath appointed a day, in which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

James 2:10-12
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. So speak, ye and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

Ecc 12:13-14
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

1 Peter 4:17,
For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

So yep according to God’s Word there will be a judgement for all mankind and we will be judged according to God’s Word.

He that rejects me, and receives not my words, hath one that judges him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. (John 12:48)


Only God’s Word is trueand we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it

..................

In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30-31).

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

 

[gb9]

God's Word is Christ. the first sentences in John's Gospel. the Word became flesh and dwelt among us.

faith and belief in Christ. not keeping the Sabbath . no matter what ellen white and the 28 points of sda says, those are man ( woman ) cobbled together Scripture to prove a non-existing point that Sabbath keeping is part of being saved.

 

[MarcR]

I don't even read his posts since the point where he told me the Decalogue is the gospel. Other people in the thread may be still worth the effort to talk to.

I do like his avatar, though interestingly it depicts armour that is typical of what would be intended only for ceremonial use, not actual battle.

With God all things are possible. Not with man.
He is the one who leads camels through needles

I don't reply to him directly. I refute him because I think I should; but there is no dialog.

 

[LoveGodForever]

I don't reply to him directly. I refute him because I think I should; but there is no dialog.

My dear friend,

If you do not have the Word of God to share, how can you deny God's Word? Only God's Word is true and we should believe and follow it.

You talk about refuting now please show me one place in this entire thread or forum where you have refuted anything?

If you cannot you should believe the Word of God. Only God's Word is true and we should believe and follow him who calls us in LOVE to LOVE. Unbelievers or those that put their own words over God's have not part in God's KINGDOM. Only God's Word is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW him who calls is in LOVE to LOVE.

Those who teach against God's LAW and the prophets do not KNOW him who calls them and are least in God's KINGDOM. Unless they repent and BELIEVE the Gospel they will not SEE the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

SIN will keep all those who teach and practice it OUT of God's Kingdom.

 

[LoveGodForever]

God's Word is Christ. the first sentences in John's Gospel. the Word became flesh and dwelt among us.

faith and belief in Christ. not keeping the Sabbath . no matter what ellen white and the 28 points of sda says, those are man ( woman ) cobbled together Scripture to prove a non-existing point that Sabbath keeping is part of being saved.

Hello my friend.

This is why you are confused. You are correct in saying that Jesus is indeed God's Word. We are to LIVE by EVERY WORD that proceeds out of the MOUTH of GOD.

OUR LIFE is in God's WORD and by our FAITH are we saved by God's GRACE and not of ourselves it is a GIFT of GOD lest anyman should boast.

If your FAITH does not have the FRIUT of OBEDIENCE then you are STILL in your SINS because you have rejected the GIFT of God's dear son (James 2:18; 20; 26)

If you have no FRUIT your tree will be cast down and thrown in to the FIRE (Matthew 7:12-23; Hebrews 10:26-27)

Please if you disagree with any of the scriptures posted; state your case and present your scriptures.

If you cannot simply saying you disagree with God will not help you come judgement day.

..................

In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30-31).

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

 

[MarcR]

Yes the Sabbath was not a shadow of Jesus because it was created before sin and made holy before a saviour was needed. Jesus is lord of the Sabbath and did not change it.

Mat 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

Mar 2:28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

Luk 6:5 And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath

Heb 1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into His rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.

2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.



3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.

5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.

6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:

7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.

8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.

9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

We are indeed told Gen 2:2-3
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
KJV


BUT, WE ARE NOT TOLD that God commanded anyone to rest on the seventh day until Exodus 16.

In fact when sabbath rest was commanded; it was commanded specifically of Israel in commemoration of their servitude in Egypt.

Deut 5:12-15
12 Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee.
13 Six days thou shalt labour, and do all thy work:
14 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou.
15 And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the Lord thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the Lord thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.
KJV

 

[Jackson123]

Hello my friend, you are indeed confused. The judgement is over SIN because it is SIN that will keep all who practice it out of God's Kinfdom.

Those practicing sin will not be saved on the day of Judgement ….


The scripture says it is only those that hear and believe God’s Word that receive everlasting life and are not condemned and have passed from death to life. It is God’s Word not mine that says……

Psalms 1:5
Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.

Psalms 9:8
And he shall judge the world in righteousness, he shall minister judgment to the people in uprightness.

Ecclesiastes 12:14
For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

Matthew 12:36,
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

John 9:39,
And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind

Act 17:31,
Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

Romans 2:5,
But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;

Romans 2:6,
Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

2 Corinthians 5:10,
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

2 Corinthians 5:11,
Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.

Hebrews 9:27,
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Hebrews 10:26,
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Hebrews 10:27,
But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

James 2:12,
So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

James 2:13,
For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.

2 Peter 2:9
The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:

2 Peter 3:7,
But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.


Jude 1:14-15,
Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him

Revelation 14:7 Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

Daniel 7:10
A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.

Revelations 20:12
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

Psalms 119:172,
My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy commandments are “righteousness”.

Hebrew meaning righteousness צדק tsedeq tseh'-dek From H6663; the right (natural, moral or legal) morally and legally right; righteous צדּיק tsaddı̂yq tsad-deek' From H6663; just: - just, lawful, righteous (man).

Greek meaning righteousness δικαιοσύνηdikaiosunēdik-ah-yos-oo'-nay From G1342; equity (of character or act); specifically (Christian) justification: - righteousness.
righteous δίκαιος dikaios dik'-ah-yos From G1349; equitable (right doing in character or act); by implication innocent, holy (absolutely or relatively): - just, meet, right (-eous)

So from God’s Word we have the definition of righteousness. God says the definition of “righteousness” according to His Word is his 10 commandments The Hebrew and Greek meaning of righteousness is to be morally and legally right; lawful character of act, innocent and holy (right doing).

Psalms 119:142,
Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the truth.

Psalms 9:8
And he shall judge the world in righteousness, he shall minister judgment to the people in uprightness.

Act 17:31
Because he hath appointed a day, in which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

James 2:10-12
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. So speak, ye and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

Ecc 12:13-14
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

1 Peter 4:17,
For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

So yep according to God’s Word there will be a judgement for all mankind and we will be judged according to God’s Word.

He that rejects me, and receives not my words, hath one that judges him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. (John 12:48)


Only God’s Word is trueand we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it

..................

In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30-31).

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

He Will judge the world

what is judgement do?

judgement do to decide who go to heaven who go to hell

matt 25 tell the sumary who go to heaven who go to hell. Read one more time my friend

did He say, you go to hell because not observe sabbath?

new covenant is about love.

What is pure love?

Pure love is help the least. If only help the rich, every body can do It. In my country people proud If they close friend to the rich

some people proud because he is president friend.

That is not pure love, pure love is If you willing to become a friend to the poor, help them and not expect anything in return.

Jesus Said that kind of person He choose to put in heaven. It is judgement and It what Jesus Said, He never lie

And No body able to do that kind of love unless he abide in Him

that kind of love is the fruit of the Holy Spirit.

my friend, unswere my question why you not cook oN sabbath, while you believe mosaic law is not valid?

 

[MarcR]

Zecharyah is post His second return.

and if you say honoring the Sabbath is only 1/7th sanctified, then you can never do anything of your own will every day, you can never work for your own gain you can never watch a movie you can never mow the lawn. Unless work 6 days and set apart the 7th day to YHWH.... Walk in His ways every day is not the same as 100% set apart for His will, nice to try to blur the lines tho.

keepinmg sabbath 7th day does not mean one has to go against Yah the other 6, it means that we have 6 days to work for our rent and pay for our food and the 7th day is not for anything of our will but 100% of His will.

So tell me are yoiu set apart every day? Do you work a regular job and watch a movie and go for a jog and play with you dog? Thoise things are not sin but they are also not the set apart holy work of YHWH.

I don't think ANYONE on the forum finds fault with you for observing the Sabbath!

What we find fault with is trying to put other people under Law. Numerous passages in the NT teach that that should NOT be done!

 

[LoveGodForever]

I don't think ANYONE on the forum finds fault with you for observing the Sabbath!

What we find fault with is trying to put other people under Law. Numerous passages in the NT teach that that should NOT be done!

Hello MarcR,

You only put yourself "Under the law" by breaking it. If anyone is living a LIFE of KNOWN unrepentant SIN they do not KNOW God and stand before him guilty of SIN under the law.

If they do not seek God in REPENTANCE and FORGIVENESS they will not see the KINGDOM of HEAVEN. Sin will keep all who practice it OUT of God's KINGDOM.

.................

In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30-31).

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

 

[gb9]

Hello MarcR,

You only put yourself "Under the law" by breaking it. If anyone is living a LIFE of KNOWN unrepentant SIN they do not KNOW God and stand before him guilty of SIN under the law.

If they do not seek God in REPENTANCE and FORGIVENESS they will not see the KINGDOM of HEAVEN. Sin will keep all who practice it OUT of God's KINGDOM.

.................

In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30-31).

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

not believing in Christ will keep folks out of Heaven. we all sin. some of us are just honest about it. some tell lies about Sabbath being necessary for salvation.

some follow ellen white. Some follow Jesus.

 

[LoveGodForever]

not believing in Christ will keep folks out of Heaven.

This is true because Jesus is the Word of God. If you do not BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD you are not a BELIEVER and UNBELIEVERS will not enter into God's KINGDOM.

.................

In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30-31).

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

 

[LoveGodForever]

God's Word is Christ. the first sentences in John's Gospel. the Word became flesh and dwelt among us.

faith and belief in Christ. not keeping the Sabbath . no matter what ellen white and the 28 points of sda says, those are man ( woman ) cobbled together Scripture to prove a non-existing point that Sabbath keeping is part of being saved.

I see why you are confused. You are correct in saying that Jesus is indeed God's Word. We are to LIVE by EVERY WORD that proceeds out of the MOUTH of GOD. OUR LIFE is in God's WORD and by our FAITH are we saved by God's GRACE and not of ourselves it is a GIFT of GOD lest anyman should boast.

If your FAITH does not have the FRIUT of OBEDIENCE then you are STILL in your SINS because you have rejected the GIFT of God's dear son (James 2:18; 20; 26) If you have no FRUIT your tree will be cast down and thrown in to the FIRE (Matthew 7:12-23; Hebrews 10:26-27)

Please if you disagree with any of the scriptures I have posted state your case and present your scriptures. If you cannot simply saying you disagree with God will not help you come judgement day. These are God's Words and not mine. Those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW him are the ones who hear his voice (the Word). Those who reject him do not KNOW him and his WORDS will judge them in the last days....

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In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30-31).

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?