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Thats your view, and your welcome to it. But i do not think the HS is afraid to call BS when he sees it, Knowing that some people need to hear it..
Show me int he bible where it is a sin
Sounds aweful legalistic to me. You want that kind of church, you can have it, Me,. I want a church full of people who are on fire for God. And not afraid to talk about God and his love, and not worried about who they may offend, the word itself will offend people. If people are afraid to offend people. Christianity is not th Place for them.
Show me int he bible where it is a sin
Sounds aweful legalistic to me. You want that kind of church, you can have it, Me,. I want a church full of people who are on fire for God. And not afraid to talk about God and his love, and not worried about who they may offend, the word itself will offend people. If people are afraid to offend people. Christianity is not th Place for them.
Scripture states Paul teaching I am crucified.
That would be ego, not flesh. Ego involves our will. Flesh is the nature that we inherited (inherent) from Adams fall. This does not mean that lusts do not tempt, nor pride of life, which I would call our soulish accomplishments doesn't try to rise in our minds. We capture them.
That would be ego, not flesh. Ego involves our will. Flesh is the nature that we inherited (inherent) from Adams fall. This does not mean that lusts do not tempt, nor pride of life, which I would call our soulish accomplishments doesn't try to rise in our minds. We capture them.
What is swearing/cussing? How would one define what a cuss word is or is not?
Are they same?
It's it possible that a word may considered a cuss for one person and not for another.
Does a person's culture and dialect where words are used not be a cuss but not for another.
I really simple example being.
The Americans use the word 'fanny' which means backside.
Over here that would be considered a cuss/swear word.
Are they same?
It's it possible that a word may considered a cuss for one person and not for another.
Does a person's culture and dialect where words are used not be a cuss but not for another.
I really simple example being.
The Americans use the word 'fanny' which means backside.
Over here that would be considered a cuss/swear word.
Philippians 3:8
8 Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ
skybalon/skubala (rubbish)
[FONT="]The Greek word translated as “rubbish” is skybalon, but that’s not the most accurate translation of the Greek. Skybalon is a dirty word in Greek, and our lovely wholesome translators have really dulled the translation down. What does it mean? The NET Bible translates it as “dung”, which is still not quite the full meaning. The NET Bible note on verse 8’s “dung” says:[/FONT]
Now if the above is true he has used a word that seems to be offensive.
I think for me to cuss or use what is considered a swear word is one that is used against a person.
So if the above word us s**t the Paul is saying "Everything I have lost is s**t and indeed it should be because the s**t I have lost had been replaced by Jesus"
In a nutshell "Everything not of Jesus is s**t.
We did have a preacher who used the S word in a evening sermon once. Brief pause then he said "having looked out I want to ask how many of you are offended that I used that word, how many of you are upset I used that word, don't raise hands but if you were does that upset you more than the people God has given you to proclaim the gospel to are going to hell?
I'm not an advocate of gratuitous profanity I must admit.
My mother uses the f word a lot.
I was off the mind set that if was a swear word and to be honest it upset me.
As I thought about it and prayed about it I realised the majority of the time it was "Well F me"
It was in fact to her an element of surprise, that's all.
Funnily enough since she became a Christian she hardly uses that word, I think mainly because she was aware I would not visit with my kids because of the ways words she would use. Not that the word to her was swear word but because she knew they may hear it and bigger blur it out in school or to a friend because they would find it offensive.
Hope the above makes some sense.
8 Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ
skybalon/skubala (rubbish)
[FONT="]The Greek word translated as “rubbish” is skybalon, but that’s not the most accurate translation of the Greek. Skybalon is a dirty word in Greek, and our lovely wholesome translators have really dulled the translation down. What does it mean? The NET Bible translates it as “dung”, which is still not quite the full meaning. The NET Bible note on verse 8’s “dung” says:[/FONT]
The word here translated “dung” was often used in Greek as a vulgar term for fecal matter. As such it would most likely have had a certain shock value for the readers. This may well be Paul’s meaning here, especially since the context is about what the fleshproduces.
[FONT="]Skybalon was a vulgar term! It has been found in ancient graffiti and in manuscripts linking it as pure profanity! Paul purposefully uses a vulgar and offensive term in his letter in order to grab the attention of his readers and get into their faces. (thinkhebrew.wordpress.com)
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It seems from the above they Paul used a word that was considered vulgar, basically s**t[FONT="]Skybalon was a vulgar term! It has been found in ancient graffiti and in manuscripts linking it as pure profanity! Paul purposefully uses a vulgar and offensive term in his letter in order to grab the attention of his readers and get into their faces. (thinkhebrew.wordpress.com)
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Now if the above is true he has used a word that seems to be offensive.
I think for me to cuss or use what is considered a swear word is one that is used against a person.
So if the above word us s**t the Paul is saying "Everything I have lost is s**t and indeed it should be because the s**t I have lost had been replaced by Jesus"
In a nutshell "Everything not of Jesus is s**t.
We did have a preacher who used the S word in a evening sermon once. Brief pause then he said "having looked out I want to ask how many of you are offended that I used that word, how many of you are upset I used that word, don't raise hands but if you were does that upset you more than the people God has given you to proclaim the gospel to are going to hell?
I'm not an advocate of gratuitous profanity I must admit.
My mother uses the f word a lot.
I was off the mind set that if was a swear word and to be honest it upset me.
As I thought about it and prayed about it I realised the majority of the time it was "Well F me"
It was in fact to her an element of surprise, that's all.
Funnily enough since she became a Christian she hardly uses that word, I think mainly because she was aware I would not visit with my kids because of the ways words she would use. Not that the word to her was swear word but because she knew they may hear it and bigger blur it out in school or to a friend because they would find it offensive.
Hope the above makes some sense.
As a self professing Bible teacher you should have a higher standard for yourself and a higher love for those you shepherd that should keep you from justifying the use of any kind of slang or profanity. That is really the point here. IF you use this language and think it is their issue or they need to get it over it, that is truly sad. In fact, it is being selfish.
When you state the issue is with other people and it is people who make words "bad" or think they are sinful and not the words themselves, it is nothing but rebellion in the heart. It is the inability or outright denial to let God have it and help you change it.
I ma not judging you I doing what I did with the OP. Since you both are self proclaimed teachers & leaders in your churches then you should have a higher standard for yourselves. If you need help, ask someone you trust. mediate on Scriptures that nothing wicked will come out of your mouth.
You will get like minded ear ticklers telling you it is OK you used the f-bomb in Sunday school class, because you could not make any point without using the word. Your lead Pastor may even relate to it, but the minute a child says it and repeats it and then is asked where he got it from and the child says Teacher EG said it and he is a teacher and leader, you have no defense.
The offense is not the word, the offense comes that a leader/teacher in the body of Christ, gives this a pass, like its not a big deal.
You will rue the day at Judgement when Jesus says enter in good and faithful servant. I have to ask you though, what made you think I was OK with you talking that way to my sheep? and God forbid, some of those sheep are lost because of your inability to use nice words to make a point while teaching.
James 3:1 says you have stricter judgment coming. Teacher
Romans 14:16-18
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Therefore do not let what is for you a good thing be spoken of as evil; [SUP]17 [/SUP]for the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. [SUP]18 [/SUP]For he who in this way serves Christ is acceptable to God and approved by men.
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