GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?
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the oracles of God
This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel
which spake to him in [the mount Sina], and with our fathers:
who received the lively oracles [to give unto us] Acts 7:38
What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
Much every way:chiefly, because that unto them
were committed [the oracles of God]. Romans 3:2
For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need
that one teach you again which be the first principles of
[the oracles of God]; and are become such as have
need of milk, and not of strong meat. Hebrews 5:12
If any man speak, let him speak as [the oracles of God];
if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth:
that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ,
to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. 1 Peter 4:11
This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel
which spake to him in [the mount Sina], and with our fathers:
who received the lively oracles [to give unto us] Acts 7:38
What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
Much every way:chiefly, because that unto them
were committed [the oracles of God]. Romans 3:2
For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need
that one teach you again which be the first principles of
[the oracles of God]; and are become such as have
need of milk, and not of strong meat. Hebrews 5:12
If any man speak, let him speak as [the oracles of God];
if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth:
that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ,
to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. 1 Peter 4:11
You should do because that is the day that God made a Holy day and commands all His followers to keep Holy. Some like to quote Romans 14 which is talking about the Levitical annual holy days that are shadows fulfilled but there is no mention of God's 4th commandment the 7th day Sabbath in the entire book of Romans.
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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten ( Exodus 20:8-11 ) and like any of the ten, if we knowingly break it when God ask s us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
SIN will keep all those who practice it out of God's Kingdom.....
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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten ( Exodus 20:8-11 ) and like any of the ten, if we knowingly break it when God ask s us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
SIN will keep all those who practice it out of God's Kingdom.....
How do you know good and evil or SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS without God's LAW? You cannot because God's LAW is the knowledge of Good and Evil; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS (Romans 3:20; 7:7)
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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten ( Exodus 20:8-11 ) and like any of the ten, if we knowingly break it when God ask s us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten ( Exodus 20:8-11 ) and like any of the ten, if we knowingly break it when God ask s us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
Hello trofimus
I think your missing the point, the example of killing (murder), adultery, stealing, lying etc are all examples of God's 10 commandments. You break any one of them you commit SIN because SIN is the breaking or transgression of God's Law (10 commandments). see James 2:11; Romans 7:7; Romans 3:20; 1 John 3:4
IF you continue in SIN without REPENTANCE and CONFESSION and FAITH in God's WORD you will NOT enter into God's Kingdom (Hebrews 6:4-8; 10:26-27).
God's 4th commandment is one of the ten ( Exodus 20:8-11 ) and like any of the ten, if we knowingly break it when God ask s us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
I think your missing the point, the example of killing (murder), adultery, stealing, lying etc are all examples of God's 10 commandments. You break any one of them you commit SIN because SIN is the breaking or transgression of God's Law (10 commandments). see James 2:11; Romans 7:7; Romans 3:20; 1 John 3:4
IF you continue in SIN without REPENTANCE and CONFESSION and FAITH in God's WORD you will NOT enter into God's Kingdom (Hebrews 6:4-8; 10:26-27).
God's 4th commandment is one of the ten ( Exodus 20:8-11 ) and like any of the ten, if we knowingly break it when God ask s us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
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In my mind, the question has never been whether believers should lead moral lives. Of course we should!
The question is: Do we get there by imperfectly following Laws? or do we get there by following the prompting of the Holy Spirit?
By following the prompting of the Holy Spirit; laws will undoubtedly be obeyed, but we need not be mindful of them.
By Law Keeping, the Law Keeper gets approval for his own efforts. By following the prompting of the Holy Spirit, God gets all the credit and praise for our obedience.
God does not want us independently doing anything for Him! God wants us in total dependence allowing Him to work in and through us. True obedience results from God's effort not our own.
The question is: Do we get there by imperfectly following Laws? or do we get there by following the prompting of the Holy Spirit?
By following the prompting of the Holy Spirit; laws will undoubtedly be obeyed, but we need not be mindful of them.
By Law Keeping, the Law Keeper gets approval for his own efforts. By following the prompting of the Holy Spirit, God gets all the credit and praise for our obedience.
God does not want us independently doing anything for Him! God wants us in total dependence allowing Him to work in and through us. True obedience results from God's effort not our own.
Good post.
Morality will never make a person spiritual. But morality is one natural thing that comes from being Spiritual.
The underlined and bolded in your post is so very true. If we are honest with ourselves, and our minds are on laws or sin. We probably are not in the Spirit and walking in the Spirit.
Morality will never make a person spiritual. But morality is one natural thing that comes from being Spiritual.
The underlined and bolded in your post is so very true. If we are honest with ourselves, and our minds are on laws or sin. We probably are not in the Spirit and walking in the Spirit.
Morning LGF,
Thanks for responding to my post.
I get what you are saying.
I would just like to say though if you don't mind.
I would say it's not just a case of freeing us from sin to love.
Healing is also needed in order to increase our capacity to love.
In order to release me from the hate I had, God had to heal the hurt and pain for the situation's that caused me to hate.
As this happened my capacity to love also increased.
I would also say that the damaged emotions that I had as a result of not knowing my real father, being thrown out by my mother and being sexually abused by my foster dad gave me a distorted view of God as my father.
So as God healed those emotions my view of him started to change which led to me to forgive which was evidence of my increased capacity to love.
I think part of the issue also is that if we do not truly know that he truly loves us it does affect our walk with him and others.
The problem also is that we can allow emotions to dictate faith when the reality is that faith should dictate our emotions.
When we do that emotions fall into line.
But I do say at times emotional healing is needed.
Have a good day.
Bill
Thanks for responding to my post.
I get what you are saying.
I would just like to say though if you don't mind.
I would say it's not just a case of freeing us from sin to love.
Healing is also needed in order to increase our capacity to love.
In order to release me from the hate I had, God had to heal the hurt and pain for the situation's that caused me to hate.
As this happened my capacity to love also increased.
I would also say that the damaged emotions that I had as a result of not knowing my real father, being thrown out by my mother and being sexually abused by my foster dad gave me a distorted view of God as my father.
So as God healed those emotions my view of him started to change which led to me to forgive which was evidence of my increased capacity to love.
I think part of the issue also is that if we do not truly know that he truly loves us it does affect our walk with him and others.
The problem also is that we can allow emotions to dictate faith when the reality is that faith should dictate our emotions.
When we do that emotions fall into line.
But I do say at times emotional healing is needed.
Have a good day.
Bill
That is significant don't you think? Nor in any of Paul's epistles except when he tells us not to let men judge us about new moon and sabbaths,
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In God's covenant with ISRAEL.
where does James 2.8-12 speak of the ten commandments? He doesn't mention the 4th commandment either.
And you STILL haven't corrected the s in your cut and paste. Very slack.
for the hundredth time you use CUT AND PASTE LOL
Hi 7777Pinicled,
Good morning my time my friend. Sorry for such a slow reply. Just waking up now. I had a read of your post but still not sure of your point. Would you like to expand on the above a little. Please forgive me sometimes I am slow. There are indeed many Shadow laws from the Mosaic laws for remission of sin that pointed to Jesus and the Heavenly.
This is what the OP is trying to show by linking the OT scripture with the NT. God's Law however is Forever and not linked to the Shadows only transferred from stone to the heart to free man from SIN to LOVE and to FOLLOW him who LOVES all...
May God bless you my friend as you continue in His Word..
Hi 7777pinacled,
God's Word is wonderful indeed. It is a gift from Heaven and the Gospel to for all that have ears to hear and follow. Freely we receive and freely we are to give and share to others. Your ministry is where ever God puts you and whoever you talk to God's seeds (Word) can be sown in the heart of another. Some on stony ground some on good soil. Someone else may come along and do the watering when the seed is sown. Only God does the growing and so we walk with him who LOVES all.
May God bless you as you seek him through His Words....
God's Word is wonderful indeed. It is a gift from Heaven and the Gospel to for all that have ears to hear and follow. Freely we receive and freely we are to give and share to others. Your ministry is where ever God puts you and whoever you talk to God's seeds (Word) can be sown in the heart of another. Some on stony ground some on good soil. Someone else may come along and do the watering when the seed is sown. Only God does the growing and so we walk with him who LOVES all.
May God bless you as you seek him through His Words....
Absolutely my friend and well said. God is not willing that any should perish but that all should repent from their sins and be saved. God has given all the right to choose for themselves what they will do and does not force anyone to come when the call is made. Sadly it is written many are called but few are chosen because men loved darkness rather then light because their deeds were evil..... Only those that BELIEVE the Word of God and FOLLOW him who calls them are walking in the narrow way that many cannot find because they have lost or broken their mirror.
Wells said 7777pinicled may God bless you in his Word
Wells said 7777pinicled may God bless you in his Word