GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

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"Sin shall not have dominion over you for you are not under the law but under Grace."
Doesn't mater how we look at it in our understanding, whether sin abolished, the Law, or both, we walk by faith:

Jesus destroyed the power of sin and nullified the old covenant:
The old covenant could only be nullified by the death of the one who made the covenant, Jesus did not die in vain: About divorce and remarriage: had the religious leaders known they would not have crucified Him. "A change of the Law,"
"A new commandment I give to you, that you Love one another; as I love you, that you also Love one another."
If we obey, following Jesus in His death: praying and forgiving our enemies, only possible by the Holy Spirit: with our first Love in God. Means we are obeying the 2 commandments that the whole law and prophets hang on, on the tree with Christ.
This clears up why Jesus gave us the New commandment: having done away with the old.
Thanks be to God we have something good to preach about, Jesus cleansed our sins in His blood, rose victorious, with the keys of death and hell, and all power in heaven and earth given to Him. "If we suffer with Him we shall rule with Him."

"Unless we forsake everyone and everything and our own live we cant be His disciple."
This is the Sabbath rest that we enter, as we obey the new commandment: as His disciple we enter the Resurrection.
The law abolished so that we don't glory in the flesh. "We had the sentence of death in ourselves so that we should not trust in ourselves but in God that raises the dead." Neither can those in the flesh enter into rest in God. "The rest of the dead are not raised until the 1,000 year reign is finished." "The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and hell gave up the dead that were in them, and everyone was judged according to what they had done."

Jesus abolished the Law of sin and death and gave us the New commandment and so much more:
In the communion of the Last super, left His will as our inheritance: His relationship in constant communion with the Father. We now have "Peace and good will towards all men." The proclamation at His birth.
He could not change the heart of those who desired to be in charge. "Love does not insist on its own way."
"I can do nothing of myself except what I see the Father doing."
Hello stillness,

Thanks for sharing. I do have a problem with what you have posted but rather type out a wall of scripture can we talk about what you have posted above?

Could I start by asking you what was the OLD Covenant to you? What made up the Old Covenant? and how is the Old Covenant different from the NEW Covenant in your view? Lets have a chat and share the scriptures what do you say?

Or we can talk about each section of your post above if you like? Let me know what you think?

May God bless you as you seek Him through His Word....
 

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Hello Brother Jackson there is no new LAW it is the same LAW that has always been. We must worship God in spirit and in truth means we must worship God according to His Word. Jesus says my words they are Spirit and they are life (John 6:63) Jesus in the Word (John 1:1-14) and the truth (John 14:6). If we do not follow Jesus according to His Word in truth then we are NOT following HIM who loves all and calls us to follow him in truth... Jesus is the WORD and we must BELIEVE HIM and WALK WITH HIM by FAITH.

God's LAW is FOREVER and this includes the 4th commandment....

The Law of God (10 commandments) which includes the 4th commandment is the work of God (Exodus 32:16) whatsoever God does is forever nothing can be added to it or taken away (Ecclesiastes 3:14). God's Law is perfect converting the soul (Psalms 19:7). It is the very standard of the Old and New Covenants (Exodus 20:1:17, Hebrews 8:10-12). God's Law was spoken by God himself to His people (Exodus 20:1-22). Jesus says Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away (Matthew 25:35). Gods Law is still in force today (Psalms 111:7-8, Revelation 12:17, 14:12, 22:14, 1 John 3:5-8, 1 John 2:3-4 etc.). The Law of God reveals sin to us so we can see ourselves as we truly are sinners in need of a Saviour (Romans 3:20; 1 John 3:4). It is the great standard of the judgement (Ecclesiastes 12:13-14, James 2:10-12, 1 John 3:4, Acts 17:31). God's Law is our teacher revealing sin and the character of God and brings us to Christ at the foot of the cross that we might be saved by faith by Him who loves us and washed us in His own blood (Galatians 3:24; Revelation 1:5).

We can worship God everyday Brother Jackson but God's 4th commandment says that God wants us to make the 7th DAY of the week a HOLY DAY to do NO WORK and remember GOD and the week of CREATION how he made all things for mankind. This is God's 4th commandment.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten ( Exodus 20:8-11 ) and like any of the ten, if we knowingly break it when God ask s us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

WE must BELIEVE God's WORD and FOLLOW him who calls us in LOVE. ONLY the BELIEVERS and FOLLOWERS of GOD'S Word worship God in SPIRIT and in TRUTH.
Brother LDF I do not know why you say there is No new law.
it was a law that we must make animal sacrifice and under new law we do not need

and yes worship in spirit mean worship according to God Will, and God Will is to genuinely worship with love. It doesn't matter when, because we have to worship every day, make every day Holy.

Honestly I doubt with SDA teaching, If It is from God why Allen white wrong in predict the second coming. It is my big consider action, why I doubt her teaching. And her teaching not to Eat meat, that is not in the bible.
 

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This is more than we can explain it...it true,God is after us being totally in him,he accused teachers of law of washing cups outside while inside being like tombs,let us be washed of the blood of Jesus some observations adds nothing rather Going back to the law
 
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Hello Jackson comments in blue just for you
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Brother LDF I do not know why you say there is No new law.
it was a law that we must make animal sacrifice and under new law we do not need

If you read my last post then you would know. Maybe you read it but did not understand it. Maybe you can re-read the post and pray about it.

and yes worship in spirit mean worship according to God Will, and God Will is to genuinely worship with love. It doesn't matter when, because we have to worship every day, make every day Holy.

You can worship God whenever you like but if you break God's 4th commandment you commit SIN and SIN will keep you OUT of God's Kingdom. Where does it say in God's Word we have to worship God and make every day Holy? If you make everyday a Holy day no one can work. God's says to only make the 7th day of the week a Holy day where no work is to be done.(Exodus 20:8-12)

Honestly I doubt with SDA teaching, If It is from God why Allen white wrong in predict the second coming. It is my big consider action, why I doubt her teaching. And her teaching not to Eat meat, that is not in the bible.

EGW did not predict the 2nd coming this was William Miller. I do not follow any man or women and either should you. We should ONLY follow God's Word.
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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten ( Exodus 20:8-11 ) and like any of the ten, if we knowingly break it when God ask s us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
 
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This is more than we can explain it...it true,God is after us being totally in him,he accused teachers of law of washing cups outside while inside being like tombs,let us be washed of the blood of Jesus some observations adds nothing rather Going back to the law
Hello Justoh,

So nice to meed you. What does going back to the law mean to you?
 

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Hello Jackson comments in blue just for you
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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten ( Exodus 20:8-11 ) and like any of the ten, if we knowingly break it when God ask s us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
brother LDF, do you think every day worshiper AS sunday worshiper?
 

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The old covenant was made with the friend of God, like a marriage covenant, that could only be annulled by death, signified by animals cut in half. Appears that Jesus heart was thorn in half, along with the veil of the temple when He died, while there was an earthquake and darkness; there was also a darkness that fell when the covenant was established. Genesis 15:10.
The new covenant is still about friends of God, "Whosoever will may come and drink of the water of Life freely. Also like a marriage covenant in exchange of life with God. He rises victorious and we unite with Him, following in His suffering and death to all that is not of God.
 
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This is more than we can explain it...it true,God is after us being totally in him,he accused teachers of law of washing cups outside while inside being like tombs,let us be washed of the blood of Jesus some observations adds nothing rather Going back to the law

Mat 23:
23, “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you tithe the mint and the anise and the cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the Torah: right-ruling, mercy and faith. These need to have been done, without neglecting the others.” 27, Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you are like whitewashed tombs which outwardly indeed look well, but inside are filled with dead men’s bones and all uncleanness. 28, So you too outwardly indeed appear righteous to men, but inside you are filled with hypocrisy and lawlessness."

Mark 7:5-9, "Then the Pharisees and scribes asked Him; Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands? He answered, and said to them: Well has Isayah prophesied of you hypocrites--as it is written: This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. But in vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrine the commandments of men. For laying aside the Law of YHWH, you hold the tradition of men! Then He said to them: How well you reject the Law of YHWH, so that you may keep your own tradition!"


Matthew 23:1-39, "23:1, "Then יהושע spoke to the crowds and to His taught ones,"23:2, "saying, “The scribes and the Pharisees sit on the seat of Mosheh."23:3, "“Therefore, whatever theya say to you to guard, guard and do. But do not do according to their works, for they say, and do not do. Footnote: aFour of eleven available Shem Toḇ texts read “he says”, referring to Mosheh, instead of “they say”, referring to the Pharisees."23:4, "“For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men’s shoulders, but with their finger they do not wish to move them."23:5, "“And they do all their works to be seen by men, and they make their t’fillenb wide and lengthen the tzitzitc of their garments, Footnotes: bSee Explanatory Notes - T’fillen. cSee Explanatory Notes - “Tzitzit” and Num 15:37-41, Deu 22:12."23:6, "and they love the best place at feasts, and the best seats in the congregations,"23:7, "and the greetings in the market-places, and to be called by men, ‘Rabbi, Rabbi.’d Footnote: dRabbi - A Semitic term literally meaning “My Great One.”"23:8, "“But you, do not be called ‘Rabbi,’ for One is your Teacher, the Messiah, and you are all brothers."23:9, "“And do not call anyone on earth your father, for One is your Father, He who is in the heavens."23:10, "“Neither be called leaders, for One is your Leader, the Messiah."23:11, "“But the greatest among you shall be your servant."23:12, "“And whoever exalts himself shall be humbled, and whoever humbles himself shall be exalted."23:13, "“But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you shut up the reign of the heavens before men, for you do not go in, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in."23:14, "“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you eat up widows’ houses, and for a show make long prayers. Because of this you shall receive greater judgment."23:15, "“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you go about the land and the sea to win one convert, and when he is won, you make him a son of GĕHinnom twofold more than yourselves."23:16, "“Woe to you, blind guides, who say, ‘Whoever swears by the Dwelling Place, it does not matter, but whoever swears by the gold of the Dwelling Place, is bound by oath.’"23:17, "“Fools and blind! For which is greater, the gold or the Dwelling Place that sets the gold apart?"23:18, "“And, ‘Whoever swears by the slaughter-place, it does not matter, but whoever swears by the gift that is on it, is bound by oath.’"23:19, "“Fools and blind! For which is greater, the gift or the slaughter-place that sets the gift apart?"23:20, "“He, then, who swears by the slaughter-place, swears by it and by all that is upon it."23:21, "“And he who swears by the Dwelling Place, swears by it and by Him who is dwelling in it."23:22, "“And he who swears by the heaven, swears by the throne of Elohim and by Him who is sitting upon it."23:23, "“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you tithe the mint and the anise and the cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the Torah: the right-ruling and the compassion and the belief.d These need to have been done, without neglecting the others. Footnote: dThe wording in Luke 11:42 is somewhat different."23:24, "“Blind guides – straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel!"23:25, "“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are filled with plunder and unrighteousness."23:26, "“Blind Pharisee, first clean the inside of the cup and dish, so that the outside of them becomes clean too."23:27, "“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you are like whitewashed tombs which outwardly indeed look well, but inside are filled with dead men’s bones and all uncleanness."23:28, "“So you too outwardly indeed appear righteous to men, but inside you are filled with hypocrisy and lawlessness.e Footnote: eSee footnote Mat 5:20."23:29, "“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you build the tombs of the prophets and decorate the monuments of the righteous,"23:30, "and say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have taken part with them in the blood of the prophets.’"23:31, "“Thus you bear witness against yourselves that you are sons of those who did murder the prophets –"23:32, "and you fill up the measure of your fathers!"23:33, "“Serpents, brood of adders! How would you escape the judgment of GĕHinnom?"23:34, "“Because of this, see, I send you prophets, and wise men, and scholars of Scripture.f Some of them you shall kill and impale, and some of them you shall flog in your congregations and persecute from city to city, Footnote: fSee Mat 13:52."23:35, "so that on you should come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Heḇel to the blood of Zeḵaryah, son of Bereḵyah, whom you murdered between the Dwelling Place and the slaughter-place."23:36, "“Truly, I say to you, all this shall come upon this generation.g Footnpote: gOr ‘race’."23:37, "“Yerushalayim, Yerushalayim, killing the prophets and stoning those who are sent to her! How often I wished to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chickens under her wings, but you would not!"23:38, "“See! Your house is left to you laid waste, Jer 22:5."23:39, "for I say to you, from now on you shall by no means see Me, until you say, ‘Blessed is He who is coming in the Name of יהוה!’ ” Psa 118:26."

 

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Jesus did not seem at home with the Sabbath of the old covenant, His house had to be rebuilt, His Father was not Finished His work: "Until now my father works and I work." He came to do away with the old covenant, His bride was not ready. Obviously Jesus was ready to die for what He believed. It's almost 6,000 years since Adam, the 1000 year reign around 2033, being 2 days from when He died, but what do I know.
 
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Jesus did not seem at home with the Sabbath of the old covenant, His house had to be rebuilt, His Father was not Finished His work: "Until now my father works and I work." He came to do away with the old covenant, His bride was not ready. Obviously Jesus was ready to die for what He believed. It's almost 6,000 years since Adam, the 1000 year reign around 2033, being 2 days from when He died, but what do I know.
Hello stillness,

I noticed you have not answered any questions in relation to the Old and New Covenants I asked earlier. I see you have made a bunch of random statements though and thanks for posting. Here you go again..

Could I start by asking you what was the OLD Covenant to you?

What made up the Old Covenant?

How is the Old Covenant different from the NEW Covenant in your view?

Could you provide your scriptures?

No random statements please that are not supported with scripture :)
 

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Jesus did not seem at home with the Sabbath of the old covenant, His house had to be rebuilt, His Father was not Finished His work: "Until now my father works and I work." He came to do away with the old covenant, His bride was not ready. Obviously Jesus was ready to die for what He believed. It's almost 6,000 years since Adam, the 1000 year reign around 2033, being 2 days from when He died, but what do I know.
I believe He walked in the Sabbath in it's true intention:

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 12:12, "And how much more valuable is a man than a sheep? Therefore, it is Lawful to do righteousness on the Sabbath."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mark 3:4, “And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do right on the Sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isayah 58:11-14, "YHWH will guide you continually, and satisfy your soul in drought, and make fat; (strengthen), your bones. You will be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters do not fail. And those of you will rebuild the old waste places; you will raise up the foundations of many generations; and you will be called the Repairer of the Breach, the Restorer of Streets to Dwell In; If you turn away your foot from breaking the Sabbath: from doing your pleasure; your own business, your own pleasure, on My holy day, and call the Sabbath a delight; the holy day of YHWH honorable, and will honor Him by not doing your own ways, nor finding your own pleasure, nor engaging in idle conversation: Then you will find your joy in YHWH; and I will cause you to ride on the high places of the earth, and feed you with the heritage of Yaaqob your father, for the mouth of YHWH has spoken it."

It was the pharisees who added man made regulations to it that He purposefully broke.

Their traditions:

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mark 7:1-9, “And the Pharisees and some of the scribes assembled to Him, having come from Yerushalayim. And seeing some of His taught ones eat bread with defiled, that is, with unwashed hands, they found fault. For the Pharisees, and all the Yehuḏim, do not eat unless they wash their hands thoroughly, holding fast the tradition of the elders, and coming from the market-place, they do not eat unless they wash. And there are many other traditions which they have received and hold fast – the washing of cups and utensils and copper vessels and couches. Then the Pharisees and scribes asked Him, “Why do Your taught ones not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands? And He answering, said to them, “Well did Yeshayahu prophesy concerning you hypocrites, as it has been written, ‘This people respect Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. And in vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrine the commands of men.’ Forsaking the command of YHWH, you hold fast the tradition of men. And He said to them, “Well do you set aside the command of YHWH, in order to guard your tradition."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 23:23, “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you tithe the mint and the anise and the cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the Torah: the right-ruling and the compassion and the belief. These need to have been done, without neglecting the others.”[/FONT]

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I have been going to a church meting on Friday evening in the last few months but don't consider that a special day of rest. Has mentioned that those who honor every day alike should be fully convinced just like you should be.
 
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my question is, what happen If we worship every monday, tuesday, wenesday, thursday, Friday, saturday and sunday, is that breaking the law?
No brother Jackson we should worship God everyday, but the 7th day is a Holy day of creation that God has asked us to remember and worship him (Exodus 20:8-11)
 
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No, God commanded Israel to remember the 7th day. It was a shadow of the rest in Christ.
Lot's of words but no scripture and we should believe you over the Word of God because you say so why? The 4th commandments is not a shadow of anything read your bible and the OP

Who are Israel?


"Israel" is only a name given by God himself to represent his people. The origin of the name "Israel" come from Genesis 32:28 where Jacob wrestled with the Angel and prevailed ...for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed. Its meaning is his posterity will rule as God. Jacob had 12 sons representing the 12 tribes of Israel.

Israel is only a name given by God that represents God's people and today anyone who is following Jesus is part of God's Israel according to God's Word.

What does God's Word say.....................................…

Let God be true and every man a liar that thou might be justified in thy sayings, and might overcome when thou art judged.

Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He says not, and to seeds, as of many; but as of one, AND TO YOUR SEED, WHICH IS CHRIST (Galatians 3:16)

Abraham’s seed is Israel............................................

THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: FOR YOU ALL ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS AND IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN YOU ARE ABRAHAM'S SEED FOR YOU ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS and IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN ARE YOU ABRAHAM'S SEED, AND HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE PROMISE ( Galatians 3:28 ).

No explanation needed, believe God's Word, and again..........................

FOR THEY ARE NOT ALL ISRAEL WHICH ARE OF ISRAEL,: NEITHER, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SEED OF ABRAHAM, ARE THEY ALL CHILDREN: but in Isaac shall thy seed be called <Christ> That is, THEY WHICH ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE FLESH, THESE ARE NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD: BUT THE CHILDREN OF THE PROMISE <those who believe> ARE COUNTED FOR THE SEED ( Romans 9:6 ).

FOR HE IS NOT A JEW WHICH IS ONE OUTWARDLY; NEITHER IS THAT CIRCUMCISION, WHICH IS OUTWARDS IN THE FLESH: BUT HE IS A JEW WHICH IS ONE INWARDLY; and CIRCUMCISION IS OF THE HEART, IN THE SPIRIT, AND NOT IN THE LETTER; whose praise is not of men, but of God. ( Romans 2:28-29 )

Believe the scriptures........................................ ..........................

Galatians 3:28-29,

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Colossians 3:11,
Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

Romans 10:11-13,
For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Romans 2:28-29,
For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

The New Covenant is for God's Israel..........................

Jeremiah 31:33-4,
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, says the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, says the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Hebrews 8:10-12,
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

Hebrews 10:14-17,
For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before, this is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; and their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

Galatians 3:29,
And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise

The New Covenant is for God's Israel which represent God’s followers the believers. If you are not part of God's Israel you are not part of the New Covenant ( Hebrews 8:10-12 ).

God's Israel are those that believe the Word of God and follow it and is why Jesus says If you love me keep my commandments (John 14:15)

So there you go the seventh section of your post from the word of website comes tumbling down because it is not built on the rock but on sifting sand and GREAT is the fall of it…….


God's 4th commandment is one of the ten ( Exodus 20:8-11 ) and like any of the ten, if we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness w e are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
 
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so, just a thought, when Jesus was transfigured, Moses and Elijah appeared with Jesus, and then God the father spoke to the Apostles that were there and said, " this is my beloved Son, in whom I Am well pleased , hear Him. " not them. so, God the father elevated the Son above the Law ( Moses ), and the profits ( Elijah ).

Christianity is not about Moses, Abraham, or anyone else except the Lord Jesus Christ. until you see this, you are in the same blindness the jewsih religious leaders were in Jesus's time on earth.
 

trofimus

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:D If one my sentence is "lots of words", what are your copy&paste long posts?

but no scripture and we should believe you over the Word of God because you say so why? The 4th commandments is not a shadow of anything read your bible
You already forgot the Scriptures? OK, just for you, again:

"Therefore do not let anyone judge you by... a Sabbath day.
These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ."

(Col 2:16-17)
 
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:D If one my sentence is "lots of words", what are your copy&paste long posts?
Scripture :) and you should follow it. Only God's Word is true (Romans 3:4)

You already forgot the Scriptures? OK, just for you, again:"Therefore do not let anyone judge you by... a Sabbath day.
These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ."

(Col 2:16-17)
Yet you cannot disprove the OP with the 200+ scriptures that disagrees with your interpretation of just one scripture. This is quite sad for you come judgement day:( SIN will keep all those who practice it out of God's Kingdom