C.S. LEWIS was not christian/ C.S LEWIS exposed

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homwardbound

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I try very hard to judge false teachings only and not people.

There's a few of us here on CC that are alcoholic, I nearly died myself many times over. Jesus had other plans for me and he reveals pieces of the bigger picture to me whenever He decides.

Staying on the straight and narrow is easy when Jesus takes you out of self-hatred, I already know what happens when I leave His side even for a few moments. It's just not worth it...

http://odb.org/2009/08/28/cast-down-sheep/



thanks Praus, I am an ex-Alcoholic, druggie, and many other things delivered by God and am thankful so deeply, I agree never wanting to leave God's side ever.
The battle is:
Galatians 3:3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
Galatians 4:29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

I leave his side whenever "I" get in the way and try to behave. "I" thus learn to give up the "I" again ad return to trust.
 

donnadan

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I stumbled on this site while following links on CS Lewis and purgatory. The first thing I noticed is some irrational aversion to Lewis based on claims that he is a heretic and false Christian. This seems to me to be the antithesis of Christianity's message that God's love is all encompassing for those who choose to accept it.

Lewis's Mere Christianity is probably one of the single most enduring examples of proselytizing by a layman in modern history. The many lost sheep his writing continues to bring to and back to our common faith are legion.
 

Oncefallen

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I stumbled on this site while following links on CS Lewis and purgatory. .
And in the process you revived a thread that has been rotting in it's grave for four years.

Welcome to Christian Chat.
 
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And in the process you revived a thread that has been rotting in it's grave for four years.

Welcome to Christian Chat.
A suggestion? It is strictly up to you people of the "Administration" to be able to render any thread "unavailable." Why don't you do that if the choice is that no threads older than a certain age are to be revived? Seems a simple enough solution to this ongoing problem that only increases your workload.
 

Oncefallen

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From what I gather, some other forums have things set up to "auto-lock" threads that are inactive for a set length of time.

I've always had mixed feelings about that. Some older threads are actually a pleasant surprise to see brought back to life.
 

donnadan

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And in the process you revived a thread that has been rotting in it's grave for four years.

Welcome to Christian Chat.
Thank you, I hope I have not stepped on too many toes by voicing my impression of that post.
 
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From what I gather, some other forums have things set up to "auto-lock" threads that are inactive for a set length of time.

I've always had mixed feelings about that. Some older threads are actually a pleasant surprise to see brought back to life.
How about something like checking your spam box in emails then? Go with auto-lock, but when you see one you like, un-auto-lock it? I mean what's the point of being the mod, if you don't get some perks? lol
 
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Thank you, I hope I have not stepped on too many toes by voicing my impression of that post.
Don't worry about it. That's how I joined this site too. Googled something obscure, and one of the first results was something one of the guys on this site had said four years earlier. I'd be surprised to learn we are the only two that happened to, so welcome to CC.
 

donnadan

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Don't worry about it. That's how I joined this site too. Googled something obscure, and one of the first results was something one of the guys on this site had said four years earlier. I'd be surprised to learn we are the only two that happened to, so welcome to CC.
That is exactly why I said "be gentle". ;) I am sick of being attacked by the flack thrown up in the ether of the internet. I have thick skin, but one does like to shelter from the storm from time to time.
 

louis

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"There are people (a great many of them) who are ceasing to be christians..." (Mere Christianity pg 162)
Ceasing to be Christian, means ceasing to believe in what Christ believed, which is His Way, to love, be merciful, forgive, love truth, render justice, and other noble qualities.
 
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heartofdavid

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I stumbled on this site while following links on CS Lewis and purgatory. The first thing I noticed is some irrational aversion to Lewis based on claims that he is a heretic and false Christian. This seems to me to be the antithesis of Christianity's message that God's love is all encompassing for those who choose to accept it.

Lewis's Mere Christianity is probably one of the single most enduring examples of proselytizing by a layman in modern history. The many lost sheep his writing continues to bring to and back to our common faith are legion.
He was deep.
His books are not for one dimensional readers.
 

zeroturbulence

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The truth about CS Lewis, told by the man himself....

(you're all welcome! :p)

[video=youtube;XKmJA_chWxY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKmJA_chWxY[/video]
 
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toinena

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If CS Lewis wasn't a Christian, then most of the people here, including myself, don't earn the right to call themselves Christians.

Perhaps CS Lewis is a threat to many here, because he was well read, highly intelligent and dared to think big thoughts. Also trying to make the evil of this world more understandable through his children's books.

This thread sounds like it is better to be brain dead and think you are saved rather than to think AND be saved.
 

donnadan

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If CS Lewis wasn't a Christian, then most of the people here, including myself, don't earn the right to call themselves Christians.

Perhaps CS Lewis is a threat to many here, because he was well read, highly intelligent and dared to think big thoughts. Also trying to make the evil of this world more understandable through his children's books.

This thread sounds like it is better to be brain dead and think you are saved rather than to think AND be saved.

But, if at any point we feel like we are treading into controversial territory, even Lewis, the mere Christian himself, ends Letters to Malcolm, with these words: “Guesses, of course, only guesses. If they are not true, something better will be.”
 

homwardbound

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" I had some ado to prevent Joy and myself from relapsing into Paganism in Attica! At Daphni it was hard not to pray to Appollo the healer. But somehow one didnt feel it would be very wrong - would have only been addressing Christ sub specie Apollinis." ( C.S LEWIS A biography page 276) Describing Christ as a lower form of the pagan sun god Appollos is blasphemy!!!!!!!!
At one time in CS Lewis' life he was Agnostic and did not believe, then, later on, came to believe. Or so it is revealed in his life he did come to believe. And in the end, it is GodFather that Judges him. Not you, not me, Not even Christ the risen for us to stand in belief to see from Father giving this to us to stand in

! cor 3 to me explains this truth about who to stand in trust to, not Paul, not Appollos, not a Church here on earth in any denomination. To God Father

[h=1]2 Corinthians 5:17-20Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)[/h][FONT=&quot]17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. 18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; 19 to wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. 20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God.

For he has done what no man can do for you, you, you, and all the world

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[h=1]1 John 2:1-2Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)[/h][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]2 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 2 and he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

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[h=1]1 John 2:12Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)[/h][FONT=&quot]12 I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name’s sake.

Love you and all, as God has and continues to love us all as said in Col. 1:21-23

For us to stand in and not worry about others in an argument whether others believe believed or do not or never have

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[h=1]Philippians 2:11-13Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)[/h][FONT=&quot]11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. 13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

See that, it is not CS Lewis that is God nor me nor you, only God is God and through Son he has redeemed us in his Spirit and Truth to be led in. If you will turn to belief to see

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[h=1]Acts 20:21Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)[/h][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]21 testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.[/FONT]
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The only thing that matters is whether or not you believe, take care or our own board in our own eyes before trying to remove a speck or two from another's eye

Thank you, and Beleive as however you choose it is a free choice that frees one or not in the risen Son given them by Father and no other, at least this is what I see presently to stand in and see it is all God and none of me as if I am good, when in truth only Gods is good, that be the Father of the risen Son we are accepted in by Son's done work as if never sinned. We then begin to learn how to walk new. Titus 2:11-12, 1 John 3:1-3. Eph. 1:6,7,13
Phil 1:6 Trust is not a must, it is a Choice to stand in belief (Faith) to Father of Son as risen for new life to begin in thee.

Matters not about others, please turn to Father in belief and not be self-righteous and Judge others?
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homwardbound

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Thank you as I have read CS Lewis' Biography, as this was a good depiction of him, not him being interviewed, but a good realization from his Biography
And have read his writings and have learned much from them. As like the Screwtape letters are very deep, and it took me to read it over and over again to get anything out of it

And I did and remain in awareness of these traps of the enemies of God in arguing over things that are in truth, not Gospel. Just a sidetrack from the new life given us in the resurrected Christ from Father on the very first day of belief he has risen. Amazing freedom in his being risen is given to walk new in by Faith to this alone

Being purged from Son in him, as he has already purged all sin and sat down at the right hand of Father for us, Making intercession constantly

Thank You Jesus, and especially Father for your Approval as this is explained in Eph 1:1-13

Accepted, Forgiven and sealed to you by you and only you. Thank You, I stand in trust, as you know this too.

So will all of ytou reading this here too?
 

maxwel

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Quick Thoughts:


1. Donnadan, good to see you over in this thread engaging and sharing your views.

Welcome to CC.


2. I've always like C.S. Lewis, but as I said in another thread, no one should get a pass just because they're famous or popular; it's fair to examine anyone's words, even your own pastor.

It's perfectly fine, and it's biblical, to critique someone's views.


3. However, when I looked at the arguments against C.S. Lewis on THIS thread, his quotes just seemed to be bizarrely misunderstood.


I'm not against examining his views,
but what I saw on the first page of this thread were just strange rantings by someone who had no idea what Lewis was actually saying.

It was just strange.

It was so strange I really couldn't read past the first page.


4. If someone has a more serious problem with C.S. Lewis, then I'm fine with looking at those arguments.

But the views posted by the O.P. didn't really constitute good arguments, and they could all be taken apart pretty easily.
 

Roadkill

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I liked your spar on C.S Lewis with this KJVBIBLECATOWNER hand. Your side was very intelligent I have to say. I would've liked to have added something to this thread but I guess it is now closed. Here is what I would've said to him. First- C.S. Lewis was an atheist before he became Christian. I am sure he wrote and said a lot of things that he would have loved to retracted in their entirety if he had the chance. Second- Only God knows what is in a man's heart. To judge someone thus puts yourself on the mercy seat of Christ and I would hate to explain to God the Father what I was doing there in the first place. LOL
 

Magenta

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I would've liked to have added something to this thread but I guess it is now closed.
When a thread is closed (the proper term is "locked") nobody can post in it any more.

This thread is still open :)