C.S. LEWIS was not christian/ C.S LEWIS exposed

So if the Bibles don't match "duplicate, word for word" then at least one of them is not inspired.

Is the KJV 1611 not inspired, or is the KJV 1769 (PCE) not inspired? They can't both be inspired if they're not "duplicate, word for word".

1 Cor 15:6 And that hee was seene of aboue fiue hundred brethren at once: of whom the greater part remaine vnto this present, but some are fallen asleepe. (KJV/1611)

1 Cor 15:6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. (KJV/PCE)

What does the Holy Spirit inside of you say, Trax? Is KJV 1611 inspired, or is KJV 1769 inspired? We know that God doesn't lie.

The KLV Bible translation is an often over looked version. But it does paint a
very clear picture at what I have been saying. I had almost forgotten about this
Bible translation. It is translated from the World English Bible. Some say it
is more accurate than The Messege by Eugene Peterson. If anyone hasn't heard of the
KLV Bible, well its the Klingon Language Version Bible. Yes, Klingon as in Star Trek.
Is the Klingon Bible God authorized and God inspired? Nope. But it meets the criteria
that many are using to pick a Bible to read. It also shows how easy it is
to produce another Bible translation. You can even buy it at Amazon for 0.99 cents.
Joseph Smith created a whole religion. It isn't hard to produce another Bible translation.
The Klingon Language Version Bible should open people's eyes to how easy it is, to get another
translation on the shelves. Its a real translation, that can be bought with real money, and is
very accurate, so says the comments of it.

ChosenbyHim said:

Praus, I'll respond to your other posts later, since right now I am using my mobile phone to answer this one.

I just checked my King James Bible which I bought from Local Church Bible Publishers. And in 1 John 5:8, my Bible reads "the Spirit" (Capitalized). So you may have misread the text.

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No I read correctly. Capitalizing the 'S' in spirit in 1 John 5:8 is an unauthorized modernization. No serious KJV-only scholar would accept such a corrupt Bible.

Bible Protector :: View topic - The Protector, 4 December 2011

EDITORIAL: DIALOGUE ON 1 JOHN 5:8

In the last few days, a brother wrote, “I read with interest your comments about the capitalization of the word spirit in 1Jo 5:8. Recently I came across a photocopy of a letter from Cambridge University Press which acknowledged they had made an error by not having the word capitalized. I am looking for a more complete explanation about why the word should or should not be capitalized.”

I replied, “That letter shows the level of knowledge of Cambridge University Press, which has greatly diminished (already in 1985), that they for no good reason changed to capital ‘S’ from ‘spirit’ in 1 John 5:8, even though it had been "spirit" in 1638, in the 1769 Edition and many others.

I have numerous writings and information on the subject on my website, which is probably as ‘complete’ as is available at this time, but general information here: Bible Protector :: View topic - The spirit case: an overview

“Basically, it comes down to a wrong assumption that people have that the word ‘spirit’ should be capital, when clearly there is a distinction in usage if they were to examine the King James Bible, such as, ‘my spirit’ (Joel 2:28) versus "of my Spirit" (Acts 2:17). Also, that the usage of ‘Spirit’ in John 5:6 does not require capital in verse 8 due to the specific structure of verses 7 & 8, and the actual context of verse 9 which is talking about a witness within believers, i.e. their own spirit which is connected to the Holy Ghost.”

Here was our brother’s reply yesterday, “Dear Matthew, Thank you so much for your kind response. I have discovered that paying attention to the words is very important and such is the case here. You directed me to look at 1Jo 5:9, so I looked at it and v10 also. It seems apparent to me from these two verses that a comparison is being made between the witness of God and the witness of man. 1Jo 5:7 is the witness of God and 1Jo 5:8 is the witness of man. Therefore, it is man’s spirit which is being spoken of and should not be capitalized. I have felt this to be the case, but failed to recognize the confirmation given in vv9-10. Thanks again. John.”

So Cambridge's 1985 letter is here: http://www.localchurchbiblepublishers.com/wp-content/uploads/CambridgeLetter.pdf

Why accept Cambridge's opinion if they are the same people who brought us the Paragraph Bible?

I'm not going to spend my hard earned dollars with KJV modernizers like Local Church Bible Publishers.

Yet again more crap and more bull and lengthy waffle, I still have not read anything to convince me that the 1611 is the "perfect Bible", that's because its not. Most people can fortunately see through how ridiculous The King James Only Cult is, arguing about spelling of Valor over Valour, Arguing about correct use of a capital letter, ridiculous. King James Only Cult are deluded fools caught up in a foolish pursuit.

Then it must be the KJV 1611, since Galatians says God would never update His own Gospel. The KJV 1769 is a corrupt modern Bible and everyone involved with promoting it is accursed. So I repent now, never again will I advocate the KJV 1769.

Gal 1:6 I marueile, that you are so soone remoued from him, that called you into the grace of Christ, vnto an other Gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there bee some that trouble you, and would peruert the Gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an Angel from heauen, preach any other Gospel vnto you, then that which wee haue preached vnto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now againe, If any man preach any other Gospel vnto you, then that yee haue receiued, let him be accursed.

Crazy and insane.

Did you know that those who created the King James Bible actually added in several verses? It is proposed that the NIV, in order to stick closer to the manuscripts, took out certain verses that the KJV added in. I agree that NIV is questionable, but primarily because of their poor choice to have a homosexual on the creation team (no matter how little time she stayed).

Praus, watch this video. It may help you.

[video=youtube;G_A5g6TJCjk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_A5g6TJCjk&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/video]

ChosenbyHim said:

Well first off I do not trust this New Cambridge Paragraph Bible. For two main reasons.

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I agree, Cambridge has done nothing but try to corrupt the KJV with modernized language since the 2nd printing of 1611.



The first line is wrong, it should read: Gen 1:1 True KJV Reading: Heauen Counterfeit: heaven, heavens



Those are extremely overpriced and modernized KJV. You can get an almost real 1611 KJV (w/o Apocrypha) from WalMart for only $5. It has everything else, margin notes, introduction, etc.

1611 Bible-KJV-400th Anniversary, Zondervan Bibles: Religion : Walmart.com

The only real Bible that Local Church sells is from Hendrickson Publishers, they sell pure and perfect Bibles from $18 to $100 for a nice leather one direct from the publisher.

Hendrickson Publishers

It's best to get one with Apocrypha, so it's exactly the same as the 1611 KJV. The Apocrypha are needed for historical and literary purposes, nothing related to salvation issues, so $5 is a great deal from WalMart in my opinion.

Oh no that cant be right... you can not purchase that Bible as its published by Zondervan, who are Satans publishers, therefore that one in sale in Walmart must be Satans Bible.

KJV 'THE TRANSLATORS TO THE READER':
Happie is the man that delighteth in the Scripture, and thrise happie that meditateth in it day and night.

RedTent, why are you promoting less Bible study? Isn't that exactly what Satan wants?

2 Tim 3:15 And that from a childe thou hast knowen the holy Scriptures, which are able to make thee wise vnto saluation through faith which is in Christ Iesus. 16 All Scripture is giuen by inspiration of God, & is profitable for doctrine, for reproofe, for correction, for instrution in righteousnesse, 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished vnto all good workes.

this is the dumbest argument ive read. bunch of cultists and heretics on one side. Bunch of sane people trying to convince cultists they are wrong on the other. It is a trip to read though since the cultists wont answer serious questions and keep hiding behind their grammar arguments.

A Hebrew Roots translation? And a Greek Roots translation for Revelation?

Why don't you just believe the Book?


So basically what you are doing is making changes to it that you feel should be made. Is that the case?

You don't correct God's Book; but rather, you let God's Book correct YOU.

I'll stick with the word of God.

Praus, you should not tamper with God's holy word. And I know you said that this translation of yours is not for anyone's general use but still.

The words of God are a very serious matter.

Cursed be that love and unity for whose sake the Word of God must be put at stake. - Martin Luther

Tell that to Martin Luther.

Rom 3:28 Therefore wee conclude, that a man is iustified by faith, without the deeds of the Law.

Roem 3:28 So halten wir nun dafür, daß der Mensch gerecht werde ohne des Gesetzes Werke, allein durch den Glauben. (Luther Bibel 1545)

Translation:

Rom 3:28 Thus, we conclude that a man is justified without the deeds of the law through faith alone.