Not By Works
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Well of course I understand it, But they way you went at DC. It was obvious you did not understand it, which is why I asked.
Nope. Not both. And if you KNEW my theology you would understand that, But thanks, You just proved you have utterly no clue what my theology is. Were you not just dogging on DC for misunderstanding what others believe?
Hebrews 11:6, “But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to Yah has to believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who earnestly seek Him.”
Hebrews 5:9, “And having been perfected, He became the Causer of everlasting salvation to all those obeying Him.”
Hebrews 3:3:18-19, “And to whom did He swear that they would not enter into His rest, but to those who did not obey? we see that they were unable to enter in because of unbelief."
Revelation 12:17, “And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to fight with the remnant of her seed, those guarding the commands of Yah and possessing the witness of יהושעMessiah."
Revelation 14:12, “Here is the endurance of the set-apart ones, here are those guarding the commands of Yah and the belief of יהושע.”
Hebrews 5:9, “And having been perfected, He became the Causer of everlasting salvation to all those obeying Him.”
Hebrews 3:3:18-19, “And to whom did He swear that they would not enter into His rest, but to those who did not obey? we see that they were unable to enter in because of unbelief."
Revelation 12:17, “And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to fight with the remnant of her seed, those guarding the commands of Yah and possessing the witness of יהושעMessiah."
Revelation 14:12, “Here is the endurance of the set-apart ones, here are those guarding the commands of Yah and the belief of יהושע.”
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Faith justifies ALL BY ITSELF. But if you ain't got works to go with your faith YOU AIN'T GOT THE FAITH THAT JUSTIFIES ALL BY ITSELF. I know you agree with this....sometimes. I mean when not bashing Christians for thinking they have the spiritual obligation, by virtue of faith, to produce obedience to God.
What you, along with most of the church don't understand is they are not keeping the law to be justified. They are keeping the law out of love and adoration for God, just as we (sometimes) think we have to 'not murder', or 'not steal' out of love and adoration for God. You either are incapable of understanding that, or you are choosing not to understand it. Which is it?
Oh, you mean your 'faith + believing' thing, as if they are two different things in justification. The 'believing' part being works, according to you. That'a a really bad doctrine.
You have yet to show me where that is in the Bible. And since you haven't shown me, I must conclude that it is not in the Bible and you made it up.
What you, along with most of the church don't understand is they are not keeping the law to be justified. They are keeping the law out of love and adoration for God, just as we (sometimes) think we have to 'not murder', or 'not steal' out of love and adoration for God. You either are incapable of understanding that, or you are choosing not to understand it. Which is it?
Oh, you mean your 'faith + believing' thing, as if they are two different things in justification. The 'believing' part being works, according to you. That'a a really bad doctrine.
You have yet to show me where that is in the Bible. And since you haven't shown me, I must conclude that it is not in the Bible and you made it up.
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And flooding this thread with walls and walls of lines and line of scripture is contra to any dialog. "What we have here is a failure to communicate." quote from the movie; "Cool hand Luke" 1967.....
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Show me a verse that states man can keep the law....and In
will raise one that states "Break one of the least of the commandments and you are guilty of the whole".
Unless you keep ALL APPLICABLE LAWS 24/7/365 you are not keeping the LAW.....and that is what you and your attempted law keeping cronies fail to understand.
Only 1 kept the law....JESUS....THE REST ARE FOUND GUILTY UNDER THE LAW!
will raise one that states "Break one of the least of the commandments and you are guilty of the whole".
Unless you keep ALL APPLICABLE LAWS 24/7/365 you are not keeping the LAW.....and that is what you and your attempted law keeping cronies fail to understand.
Only 1 kept the law....JESUS....THE REST ARE FOUND GUILTY UNDER THE LAW!
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Then why do you care, since in your OSAS doctrine they're still saved anyway?
What's eating you about this? Can't you just leave 'em alone to love God and give him thanks in the way they want to? Us Protestants and Catholics did that.....we invented holy days to do that, so why can't they have their own holy days to do that? They just happen to want to use the ones that God made, not the ones that man made.
What's eating you about this? Can't you just leave 'em alone to love God and give him thanks in the way they want to? Us Protestants and Catholics did that.....we invented holy days to do that, so why can't they have their own holy days to do that? They just happen to want to use the ones that God made, not the ones that man made.
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