Not By Works
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the inspired scriptures WILL support themself
but i am not all knowing
and neither are you
and God may one day if he hasn't already use one of his children to show you something
in that moment you have a choice to refuse
or accept his outstretched gift
if YOU have never misinterpreted Gods truth through lack of knowledge
then maybe my post is worthless to you
but if you are like me
and imperfect
i think it is wise to sometimes look at yourself
(please dont misunderstand, im not picking a side in your dispute.... i posted in response to when you said only Gods truth... i personally have been accused of HATING my brothers and sisters because i "prefer" scripture over listening to men)
but i am not all knowing
and neither are you
and God may one day if he hasn't already use one of his children to show you something
in that moment you have a choice to refuse
or accept his outstretched gift
if YOU have never misinterpreted Gods truth through lack of knowledge
then maybe my post is worthless to you
but if you are like me
and imperfect
i think it is wise to sometimes look at yourself
(please dont misunderstand, im not picking a side in your dispute.... i posted in response to when you said only Gods truth... i personally have been accused of HATING my brothers and sisters because i "prefer" scripture over listening to men)
third paragraph- peter, 5 days ago, you, in your mrjoo7 persona, in the news forum, in the thread capitalism and greed, post #11, you praised socialism, saying how bad capitalism is.
here, you are speaking against Nazi's , so which is it?? do you care do address yet another contradiction you are caught in.
oh, and will you speak the truth about you being mrj007?? cause speaking all the time about righteousness while being deceptive at the same times voids everything you say.
here, you are speaking against Nazi's , so which is it?? do you care do address yet another contradiction you are caught in.
oh, and will you speak the truth about you being mrj007?? cause speaking all the time about righteousness while being deceptive at the same times voids everything you say.
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All will be judged as to whose work of faith as a labor of Love provides the grace to please God. .Justifying one self by a work of faith that one can perform in respect to oneself tells us something about self-rightfulness . What does it tell you? ? Will you be found with a righteousness of our own?
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Yet I prove in almost every post you make you do not have any understanding what f what we believed eve, because time and time again you yell at us and how we must believe something we have already been teaching is true,
i love you, but if you are not willing to take chastening from people,and stop thinking they are out to get you when they are not, you can continue to go as you are,
i love you, but if you are not willing to take chastening from people,and stop thinking they are out to get you when they are not, you can continue to go as you are,
Mad at me?
Name one person? Any person that requires a sign by that in which they do. Like reading the bible as a sign to them proves they have the Holy Spirit. or entering a building called a church, or loving a neighbor as one self.. Not one has received the promise of the new incorruptible body the goal of our faith..
Name one person? Any person that requires a sign by that in which they do. Like reading the bible as a sign to them proves they have the Holy Spirit. or entering a building called a church, or loving a neighbor as one self.. Not one has received the promise of the new incorruptible body the goal of our faith..
Your post does not present Father as a loving God to us His children.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right tothe tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into thecity.
We who are His have obeyed the Word of the Gospel. Believed that God is faithful in His promises, and on this basis of faith, He proves Himself to His own.
The commandments of the NT are not the 10. Otherwise how would one be led by His Spirit?
Jesus is the tree of life that we eat of in communion with Him daily. And we have already entered the gate when we sat down in the heavenly realms with Him, in His Victory over all the enemy. From this position comes works. Our works are not what gives us rights.
Its His.
You share as you feel.
Tell me my error and bring forth your belief and Scripture.
You are jumping in so you So I ask you to follow through.
My interpretation of GOD's Truth had me wondering where I could by a lamp and oil from.. Virgin? Oh too late I thought. Hehe.. oh and those nasty men that killed Jesus.. how dare they.. clueless..
Anyhow, go back through and correct me accordingly..
it will be humbling and if my humility brings Truth according to GOD through the Holy Spirit then Let understanding prosper in misunderstanding.
I honestly do not remember who pointed this out to me, it was a few months ago, but if you read both their posts, they are very similar.
and , I have asked mr,jens about, he has not confirmed or denied it.
now, if someone asked me if I had another screen name, I would simply say " no " . because I do not. I think most of us, who are truthful, would do the same. the person in question here has a " interesting " view on truth, lies, and contradictions.
mrj007. think about that like mrj 007. makes sense , does it not.
and , I have asked mr,jens about, he has not confirmed or denied it.
now, if someone asked me if I had another screen name, I would simply say " no " . because I do not. I think most of us, who are truthful, would do the same. the person in question here has a " interesting " view on truth, lies, and contradictions.
mrj007. think about that like mrj 007. makes sense , does it not.
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from how i see it
both of you believe
we dont earn salvation of our own works
but true faith in God will lead to him giving us gifts
and the Holy spirit will break us from sins
and cause us to do good works
(through His good works in us)
and "faith" that doesnt lead to a rebirth is a dead faith
and i agree with both of those points
both of you believe
we dont earn salvation of our own works
but true faith in God will lead to him giving us gifts
and the Holy spirit will break us from sins
and cause us to do good works
(through His good works in us)
and "faith" that doesnt lead to a rebirth is a dead faith
and i agree with both of those points
By your words you are justified or condemned. Is not the measuring stick brotherly love? And you call the benefits of our salvation pie in the sky? Where do you see a gospel of defeat anywhere in any of his posts, or any of us who are in agreement about the topic of this thread, not by works?
Your mind is full of thoughts lofty in words only without substance.
Your mind is full of thoughts lofty in words only without substance.
You don't consider His Words, you must be born again a commandment? This is a NEW covenant. Life in the Spirit, not in the law. The law is good, good instruction, but we are led of Holy Spirit as we commune with Him. Our nature is of love. Loving God, loving mankind, for giving man the truth of the Cross of Jesus Christ is the greatest way to love others. Whether or not one is rejected of them.
Not really about emotional feelings.
Not really about emotional feelings.
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I want everyone to nice,
i waited for for a bit before I made this post to give her a chance to see, it as usual...
she did not even even respond to the post I made concerning her to once again tell me I have to believe things I already believed,
I think we can all see what is happening here, sadly, as with so many people. I think our chat room and people in it need great prayer.
No bro....you were spot on as they say in AU......the point was clear....circumcision will do nothing but make you accountable unto the whole law to keep the whole law if you place yourself back under the law which will not save a flea....the law deems guilt before God because no man can keep it......the whole point of Galatians is found in chapter 1 and 3....ALL who say that salvation is started in faith and then made complete by works preach and or hold to a false gospel of a different kind which is not what Paul had taught...It has no power, is false, double cursed and all who hold to it or believe it are deceived and foolish.....<---THE WORDS OF PAUL UNDER INSPIRATION
O FOOLISH GALATIANS, WHO HAS BEWITCHED THEE.....HAVING begun in the SPIRIT (indication is faith) ARE YOU NOW MADE COMPLETE (PERFECT) BY THE FLESH (WORKS)
They had been removed for the gospel PAUL taught unto a gospel of a DIFFERENT KIND (HETEROS) and in doing so had fallen away from GRACE to a LAW/WORKS based false café blend gospel with no power to save!
O FOOLISH GALATIANS, WHO HAS BEWITCHED THEE.....HAVING begun in the SPIRIT (indication is faith) ARE YOU NOW MADE COMPLETE (PERFECT) BY THE FLESH (WORKS)
They had been removed for the gospel PAUL taught unto a gospel of a DIFFERENT KIND (HETEROS) and in doing so had fallen away from GRACE to a LAW/WORKS based false café blend gospel with no power to save!