One of my mentors taught me that at times like this, you have to be the shepherd of the house and either restore or release the elder....I have done this myself only once.....The Bible says do not rebuke an elder, it does not say let evil continue from the elder...An evangelist friend of mine, once attempted to deliver a demon out of an elder right in the middle of service...he did not get stupid, emotional or anything...he felt the evil coming off the elder, walked up to him and whispered in the elders ear...do you like this thing or do you want it gone....the elder smiled very wickedly and my friend heard a voice say...oh we like him and he loves us and we are working well with him, to destroy this house...my friend whispered back in the elders ear...you can have him all you want demons, but you cannot and will not operate in this house of the Lord anymore, in the name of Jesus, go.....and do not ever return...the elder and his wife got up and left and never returned...turns out he was also a 33rd degree mason...
I see elder boards creating more power than the Pastor and that is simply wrong...The local Pastor is God's man for the house God places him in...elders by Biblical definition should not even be in the church.....They should preside and oversee the work of the local church...a great elder will train great pastors and that is because great elders should be former great pastors...
oh that's nice. yuck
this elder (same one) was once sitting a couple rows in front of me during a meeting. a friend was beside me
at one point, he turned around for no reason and glared at me and the look was not quite human
my friend got startled as she had seen it and she gasped at me 'what was that about'
I just said 'I don't know' but I did know. I seem to have that effect often enough. they don't like me
I had an interesting experience yesterday. I had to go out to do the laundry because we are currently waiting for our washer and dryer and this older man comes in with a woman and they begin to do laundry. He was talking pretty loud and started going off on Trump. that's typical enough, but his words were more than his opinions. it was a well rehearsed speech that many have said under the direction of things they don't know exist
I moved away because I was going to use the dryers. well, he and she came over to where I was, right behind me and off he goes again.
so I prayed and rebuked the thing and told it to shut itself down...quietly of course. do you know he stopped and began a different conversation and at one point he picked up something he thought I had dropped and politely handed it to me. I was like 'this is the real person'.
it turns out he dropped something and I picked it up and gave it to him and we exchanged smiles and thank yous
it's all around and going on all the time.
