You don't see harshness and roughness in the way some men speak to each other?
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You don't see harshness and roughness in the way some men speak to each other?
all beutiful but you forgot the keeping the faith until the end part,,,(which is a works from us) like ive always said true faith is unconditional love from two parties not one..
They HAVE studied the word. That should be apparent...
The pharisees devoted their entire lives to study of the word.
So...is that the answer?
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eternally-gratefull
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If sin is not paid for, we can not be restored to god, we would still be dead
again, study the day of atonement,
Here it is
Sorry for the delay... I had a doctor appt 
God bless you, also![video=youtube;1WT1BZ0v_lk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WT1BZ0v_lk[/video]
I see a lively discussion going on but no harsh words or vitriol going on.
John 14:21
John 14:21The Message (MSG)
[SUP]21 [/SUP]“The person who knows my commandments and keeps them, that’s who loves me. And the person who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and make myself plain to him.”
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Ariel82
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I have brothers...thought that was how all men talked to each other...the whole iron sharpening iron philosophy.
They could be nicer but most guys will be quite blunt if they think you aren't listening or are wasting their time.
The men I admire the most are the ones who see past the pride and peacock strutting and address the questions both biblically and with gentleness and love.
faith is two way bonding not one .. can anyone see that in this scripture or am i the only one ?
So it is because I am a woman that when I couldn't see what they were saying that they didn't speak bluntly to me?
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Ariel82
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Yes we have to learn to love God and others as God loves us and it should be a two way relationship.
Jesus says that the pure of heart shall see God and that we should be peacemakers.
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willybob
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so says the man that seems to sit behind a computer 24/7 arguing in favour of a forgone conclusion of sin in the scriptures
payment for sin, and Jesus satisfying God's wrath was never heard until 1300 years after Jesus died...how could that be? Sadly you wont take the time to even studying the history of how and when, and by whom these feeble doctrines that you believe came into existence...
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Ariel82
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Because they have learnt from God that strength is not always about how loud you shout but how much you love
Truth spoken in love is more powerful than any worldly wisdom shouted through loud speakers..
I like the new picture as wellWow you are so right, seeing God as heavy task master was something I moved in and out of for so long and it is not who He is and I know He does not want us so view Him that way, especially in light of the cross and what He did on our behalf.
Performance based salvation is a snarly web filled with ongoing disappointment at one's one failings if one is really honest with themselves.
Ultimately they will believe as they will...I like that line ....be my guest. I need to remember that.
I like your new picture, it is very peaceful
...xox...
Not entirely sure if Ariel and stunned is addressing myself and Meggido, but I came back online to say this...funny that I knew to do this too..
I am not entirely at odds with Meggido. I do know what he is speaking about and I agree with him wholly as to how the body of Christ should be operating in maturity.
I only disagree with him on this matter of the positional righteousness being foundational truth. Well, too...I see Holy Spirit operating moreso than us and my thinking is he centers too much on our part. I think there should be balance in this. Perhaps we should hash this out in pms.
But, when it comes to spiritual operation? I agree with him.
I am not entirely at odds with Meggido. I do know what he is speaking about and I agree with him wholly as to how the body of Christ should be operating in maturity.
I only disagree with him on this matter of the positional righteousness being foundational truth. Well, too...I see Holy Spirit operating moreso than us and my thinking is he centers too much on our part. I think there should be balance in this. Perhaps we should hash this out in pms.
But, when it comes to spiritual operation? I agree with him.
Thank you Magenta, love his Arrangement and style; calm serious and relaxed, I hope we hear more of him in time, and God willing.Here it is
[video=youtube;1WT1BZ0v_lk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WT1BZ0v_lk[/video]
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Ariel82
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so says the man that seems to sit behind a computer 24/7 arguing in favour of a forgone conclusion of sin in the scriptures
payment for sin, and Jesus satisfying God's wrath was never heard until 1300 years after Jesus died...how could that be? Sadly you wont take the time to even studying the history of how and when, and by whom these feeble doctrines that you believe came into existence...
Do you support the Christus Victor theory of atonement?
https://www.theopedia.com/christus-victor
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UnderGrace
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Wow brings back memories...Thanks for sharing. So cool to hear played like that.
Here it is
[video=youtube;1WT1BZ0v_lk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WT1BZ0v_lk[/video]