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Actually, going by the words of Jesus most will die lost because they refused to acknowledge Christ as their savior...for example....many in the world know some guy named Jesus lived 2000 years ago and died on the cross, but the same people do not acknowledge the work of Christ on their behalf....ONE MUST acknowledge that the need to be born again (spiritually) to inherit the kingdom of God.....the answer is clear....Men will not come to the light because their deeds are evil and men love darkness mkre than the light......tragic day for them for sure....will also add that God would have all me be saved and come to the truth, but will not force anyone....
Peace from Penrith AU mate......been here about a week now haha
Peace from Penrith AU mate......been here about a week now haha
PROVERBS OF SOLOMON
Grow in Wisdom
Grow in Wisdom
I instruct you in the way of wisdom and lead you along straight paths.
When you walk your steps will not be hampered; when you run you will not stumble.
Proverbs4:11-12
When you walk your steps will not be hampered; when you run you will not stumble.
Proverbs4:11-12
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The HG gospel is an abstract reality, which is not reality at all. It imagines that the works of faith done by Jesus is transferred to the said recipient, and by focusing on that mystical transfer one becomes righteous in the eyes of God. This myth cant be further from the truth, and is a form of godliness denying the power of grace to fulfill the works Titus 2-12....................be blessed
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I love this poetic picture of wisdom being born; "rejoicing always in His presence" It was the Lord Jesus who brought wisdom into our world - I'm still working on a few down falls, so that I don't repeat my foolish mistakes.
Wisdom personified:"The Lord brought me forth as the first of His works, before His deeds of old; I was formed long ages ago, at the very beginning, when the world came to be. When there was no watery depths, I was given birth, when there were no springs overflowing with water; I was there when He set the heavens in place, when He marked out the horizon on the face of the deep, when He established the clouds above and fixed securely the fountains of the deep. I was filled with delight day after day, rejoicing always in His presence, rejoicing in His whole world and delighting in mankind."Proverbs8:22-31.
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I love this poetic picture of wisdom being born; "rejoicing always in His presence" It was the Lord Jesus who brought wisdom into our world - I'm still working on a few down falls, so that I don't repeat my foolish mistakes.
Wisdom personified:"The Lord brought me forth as the first of His works, before His deeds of old; I was formed long ages ago, at the very beginning, when the world came to be. When there was no watery depths, I was given birth, when there were no springs overflowing with water; I was there when He set the heavens in place, when He marked out the horizon on the face of the deep, when He established the clouds above and fixed securely the fountains of the deep. I was filled with delight day after day, rejoicing always in His presence, rejoicing in His whole world and delighting in mankind."Proverbs8:22-31.
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I just wonder how or what someone would feel if he/she belongs to a church whose pastor or minister would preach week after week all year round and so on, all about FAITH and would not do anything for fear of being suspected as works salvationists.
Hebrews 6:1-3 Therefore let us LEAVE THE ELEMENTARY TEACHINGS about Christ and go on to MATURITY, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death, and of FAITH in God, instruction about baptisms, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment. And God permitting, we will do so.
In the OT-PROHIBITIONS
in the NT-ENCOURAGEMENT because of the power of the HOLY SPIRIT in us
Romans 14:19 Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual EDIFICATION
Ephesians 4:16 From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and BUILDS ITSELF UP IN LOVE, AS EACH PART DOES IT’S WORK.
The Church is the body of Christ of which He is the head(col 1:18, eph 5:23, 1 cor 11:3). The head gives the command and the body works. That is the reality.
A person claiming to be a Christian believer but does not obey the heads command is either not really a part of the body or a dead part that needs to be cut off, as in a cancerous part that if it is not cut, it may spread and contaminate the other parts.
Before Jesus ascended into heaven, He gave instructions to His disciples for them to do. They are the works of salvation that His Body was prepared in advance to do. (eph2:10 & 4;12)
Matthew 28:19-20 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
If the first church did not work or obey what God told them to do we’re DOOMED.
Being a prophet is a work as well as being an apostle, a preacher, a teacher, an evangelist, etc.(1cor 12:4-11, eph 4:11-16, rom 12:6-8)
Do we now boast about what we reap from their labor? Would you insult them for doing works in obedience to the commands of the Almighty Living God THROUGH their FAITH?
I wonder if one of these days someone here would call our Lord and Savior Jesus a work salvationist for telling the rich young man in matthew 19:16-30 to obey the commandments and sell his possessions and give to the poor.
These people would look for ways to distort the TRUTH of the Gospel to protect their personal interest that go against God’s words.
Do we rather ought to OBEY and SUBMIT?
Hebrews 12:9 Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we SUBMIT TO THE FATHER of our spirits AND LIVE!
Matthew 8:27 The men were amazed and asked, “What kind of man is this? Even the winds and the waves obey him!”
John 14:15 “If you love me, you will obey what I command.
Acts 5:29 Peter and the other apostles replied: “We must obey God rather than men!
Acts 5:32 We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him.”
Romans 2:13 For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous.
Romans 6:16,19,22 whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to OBEDIENCE, which leads to RIGHTEOUSNESS? ..., so now offer them in slavery to RIGHTEOUSNESS leading to HOLINESS....the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is ETERNAL LIFE.
Romans 8:7 the sinful mind is hostile to God. IT DOES NOT SUBMIT TO GOD’S LAW, NOR CAN IT DO SO.
Hebrews 6:1-3 Therefore let us LEAVE THE ELEMENTARY TEACHINGS about Christ and go on to MATURITY, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death, and of FAITH in God, instruction about baptisms, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment. And God permitting, we will do so.
In the OT-PROHIBITIONS
in the NT-ENCOURAGEMENT because of the power of the HOLY SPIRIT in us
Romans 14:19 Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual EDIFICATION
Ephesians 4:16 From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and BUILDS ITSELF UP IN LOVE, AS EACH PART DOES IT’S WORK.
The Church is the body of Christ of which He is the head(col 1:18, eph 5:23, 1 cor 11:3). The head gives the command and the body works. That is the reality.
A person claiming to be a Christian believer but does not obey the heads command is either not really a part of the body or a dead part that needs to be cut off, as in a cancerous part that if it is not cut, it may spread and contaminate the other parts.
Before Jesus ascended into heaven, He gave instructions to His disciples for them to do. They are the works of salvation that His Body was prepared in advance to do. (eph2:10 & 4;12)
Matthew 28:19-20 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
If the first church did not work or obey what God told them to do we’re DOOMED.
Being a prophet is a work as well as being an apostle, a preacher, a teacher, an evangelist, etc.(1cor 12:4-11, eph 4:11-16, rom 12:6-8)
Do we now boast about what we reap from their labor? Would you insult them for doing works in obedience to the commands of the Almighty Living God THROUGH their FAITH?
I wonder if one of these days someone here would call our Lord and Savior Jesus a work salvationist for telling the rich young man in matthew 19:16-30 to obey the commandments and sell his possessions and give to the poor.
These people would look for ways to distort the TRUTH of the Gospel to protect their personal interest that go against God’s words.
Do we rather ought to OBEY and SUBMIT?
Hebrews 12:9 Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we SUBMIT TO THE FATHER of our spirits AND LIVE!
Matthew 8:27 The men were amazed and asked, “What kind of man is this? Even the winds and the waves obey him!”
John 14:15 “If you love me, you will obey what I command.
Acts 5:29 Peter and the other apostles replied: “We must obey God rather than men!
Acts 5:32 We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him.”
Romans 2:13 For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous.
Romans 6:16,19,22 whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to OBEDIENCE, which leads to RIGHTEOUSNESS? ..., so now offer them in slavery to RIGHTEOUSNESS leading to HOLINESS....the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is ETERNAL LIFE.
Romans 8:7 the sinful mind is hostile to God. IT DOES NOT SUBMIT TO GOD’S LAW, NOR CAN IT DO SO.
if your born again completely then surely as it is written you must now be able to enter the kingdom..
It is written no one can enter unless they are born again of the spirit..
No one has entered this kingdom yet as it is written only the son of man has.. so there for you haven't received salvation until you do enter his kingdom..
It is written no one can enter unless they are born again of the spirit..
No one has entered this kingdom yet as it is written only the son of man has.. so there for you haven't received salvation until you do enter his kingdom..
You've just come into this thread so you might want to read the whole thread before you single me out...
I guess your hug you offered me 3 pages ago was nothing more than a broken promise of how you are really not... Just like as Stephen says it's so easy to be nice but actually not a true reflection of how people really are.. i suppose that's snide to in your eyes..
Go and find another band wagon pal this one is full there's no room left for you...
I guess your hug you offered me 3 pages ago was nothing more than a broken promise of how you are really not... Just like as Stephen says it's so easy to be nice but actually not a true reflection of how people really are.. i suppose that's snide to in your eyes..
Go and find another band wagon pal this one is full there's no room left for you...