Not By Works
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He couldn't have posted anything of what I ask because IT DOES NOT EXIST.
Christians are all on the same team...
I only used that expression because it was apparent back then that some here do constitute a team.
For instance, why are you and UG replying for Dcon?
He's a man, let him reply for himself !!
Christians are all on the same team...
I only used that expression because it was apparent back then that some here do constitute a team.
For instance, why are you and UG replying for Dcon?
He's a man, let him reply for himself !!
Jesus was active in His ministry for over 3 years.
I trust Jesus was an intelligent person and said everything He had to say before dying.
Anything important that needed to be said, He said.
Whenever there's a doubt about something... I go to what JESUS said since HE is my Lord, not Paul or Peter or James.
It's not that I don't like what the Others said, it's just that when there's a doubt, I go to my Lord and Master and Savior.
The one who hung on the cross and came specially from heaven to tell us many important things.
God's Son.
God in the flesh.
I trust Jesus was an intelligent person and said everything He had to say before dying.
Anything important that needed to be said, He said.
Whenever there's a doubt about something... I go to what JESUS said since HE is my Lord, not Paul or Peter or James.
It's not that I don't like what the Others said, it's just that when there's a doubt, I go to my Lord and Master and Savior.
The one who hung on the cross and came specially from heaven to tell us many important things.
God's Son.
God in the flesh.
NO no.
They DO NOT carry the same weight.
You mean if there's a difference between something Jesus said and something Peter said,
you can accept what Peter said over what Jesus said??
And, in any case, Paul also said works are necessary. Try Romans 13-16.
I know the word works is a really bad word to use, but I'm not looking for another one.
Sorry.
So, YES.
JESUS takes presedence over everyone.
HIS words are the words OF GOD. HE IS THE WORD OF GOD. John 1.
I do not put HIS words on a par with ANYONE.
They DO NOT carry the same weight.
You mean if there's a difference between something Jesus said and something Peter said,
you can accept what Peter said over what Jesus said??
And, in any case, Paul also said works are necessary. Try Romans 13-16.
I know the word works is a really bad word to use, but I'm not looking for another one.
Sorry.
So, YES.
JESUS takes presedence over everyone.
HIS words are the words OF GOD. HE IS THE WORD OF GOD. John 1.
I do not put HIS words on a par with ANYONE.
I just have to say it....this rigmarole of pitting the words of Jesus against the words of Paul is retarded...Jesus was born, lived and died under the law which ratified the NEW COVENANT.....PAUL WAS TAUGHT BY DIRECT REVELATION FROM JESUS AND WAS INSPIRED TO WRITE THE WORDS OF JESUS THAT HIS DISCIPLES could not yet bear.....it is not only STUPID to disregard what Paul wrote but also is contrary to the truth and reeks of ignorance.....WE ARE SAVED by faith...end of story and those who have trusted into Jesus BIBLICALLY have already done the WORKS OF THE FATHER.......
Dcon
The fact that you don't post any verse means THERE ISN'T ANY.
Just like I Always said.
GIVE IT UP.
You should know everything Jesus said as well a I do...
And you know very well He never said anything in the order of what YOU preach on this forum.
Make very sure that God is happy with you.
John 5:28-29
The fact that you don't post any verse means THERE ISN'T ANY.
Just like I Always said.
GIVE IT UP.
You should know everything Jesus said as well a I do...
And you know very well He never said anything in the order of what YOU preach on this forum.
Make very sure that God is happy with you.
John 5:28-29
Here are several verses,
John 3
Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, 15 that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him.”
16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.
John 3
Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, 15 that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him.”
16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.
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You could just repost the verses Dcon....
Ephesians 2:9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
Ephesians 2:9 ►
New International Version
not by works, so that no one can boast.
New Living Translation
Salvation is not a reward for the good things we have done, so none of us can boast about it.
English Standard Version
not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Berean Study Bible
not by works, so that no one can boast.
Berean Literal Bible
not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.
New American Standard Bible
not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.
King James Bible
Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
not from works, so that no one can boast.
International Standard Version
and not the result of actions, to put a stop to all boasting.
NET Bible
it is not from works, so that no one can boast.
New Heart English Bible
not of works, that no one would boast.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Not of works, lest anyone should boast.
GOD'S WORD® Translation
It's not the result of anything you've done, so no one can brag about it.
New American Standard 1977
not as a result of works, that no one should boast.
Jubilee Bible 2000
Not of works, lest any man should boast.
King James 2000 Bible
Not of works, lest any man should boast.
American King James Version
Not of works, lest any man should boast.
American Standard Version
not of works, that no man should glory.
Douay-Rheims Bible
Not of works, that no man may glory.
Darby Bible Translation
not on the principle of works, that no one might boast.
English Revised Version
not of works, that no man should glory.
Webster's Bible Translation
Not by works, lest any man should boast.
Weymouth New Testament
so that it may be impossible for any one to boast.
World English Bible
not of works, that no one would boast.
Young's Literal Translation
not of works, that no one may boast;
Ephesians 2:9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
Ephesians 2:9 ►
New International Version
not by works, so that no one can boast.
New Living Translation
Salvation is not a reward for the good things we have done, so none of us can boast about it.
English Standard Version
not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Berean Study Bible
not by works, so that no one can boast.
Berean Literal Bible
not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.
New American Standard Bible
not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.
King James Bible
Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
not from works, so that no one can boast.
International Standard Version
and not the result of actions, to put a stop to all boasting.
NET Bible
it is not from works, so that no one can boast.
New Heart English Bible
not of works, that no one would boast.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Not of works, lest anyone should boast.
GOD'S WORD® Translation
It's not the result of anything you've done, so no one can brag about it.
New American Standard 1977
not as a result of works, that no one should boast.
Jubilee Bible 2000
Not of works, lest any man should boast.
King James 2000 Bible
Not of works, lest any man should boast.
American King James Version
Not of works, lest any man should boast.
American Standard Version
not of works, that no man should glory.
Douay-Rheims Bible
Not of works, that no man may glory.
Darby Bible Translation
not on the principle of works, that no one might boast.
English Revised Version
not of works, that no man should glory.
Webster's Bible Translation
Not by works, lest any man should boast.
Weymouth New Testament
so that it may be impossible for any one to boast.
World English Bible
not of works, that no one would boast.
Young's Literal Translation
not of works, that no one may boast;
You left out verse 48:
John 12:48 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
48 He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day.
Jesus did not come to judge the world now, but at the end of times THERE IS ONE WHO WILL JUDGE,
and the WORD Jesus spoke (the Word is His teachings) will be the judge at the last day.
This refers back to John 5:28-29
Also see John 14:21
P.S. I mean, do you actually think Jesus is saying not to obey Him and follow His words!!!
How easily you believe what sounds nice to you !!
John 12:48 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
48 He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day.
Jesus did not come to judge the world now, but at the end of times THERE IS ONE WHO WILL JUDGE,
and the WORD Jesus spoke (the Word is His teachings) will be the judge at the last day.
This refers back to John 5:28-29
Also see John 14:21
P.S. I mean, do you actually think Jesus is saying not to obey Him and follow His words!!!
How easily you believe what sounds nice to you !!