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Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
2 Tim 2:15

Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters
col 3:23

We are Gods handiwork. We are purified, redeemed, holy, cleansed people of God walking in
righteousness. We do everything to His glory and desire to serve and meet the needs of others.

Our lives are a living sacrifice of Praise to our Lord and Saviour.

Now I have heard that some think God called us to idleness and to enjoy our lives rather than
work for the service of others. But God has been working to bring His people to His Kingdom
for the beginning of time, so we also must work and fulfil the good works He has given us
to perform.

Now if the idle believers want to shout and mock at the workers, who set about to honour and
serve their King, their loss and our gain. What happened to the servant who was given one talent
and did nothing with it.

So take the bag of gold from him and give it to the one who has ten bags. [SUP] [/SUP]For whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. [SUP] [/SUP]And throw that worthless servant outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
matt 25:28-30

All things work for good for those who are called according to His purpose.

So very often ones enemies retorts are the key to their own defeat and failure.
So love your enemy, because they will spot your weakest points, which you can then
turn to your advantage. And unfortunately for them this is always a one way street,
because the Lord is our King and love is His way, Praise the Lord.
 
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Jim, YOU are the one making false accusations and assumptions here. YOU assume that myself and others here do not donate to the site. You don't TRULY know if we do or not, and by the way, YOU admitted that YOU don't currently donate here either..

I've NEVER said that I do no wrong, or that I'm absolutely right and all others are wrong.. If anyone has a compulsory disorder to attack others constantly, it's YOU, because you've been doing it for the last few days..


WITHOUT provocation, and WITH paranoia, I might add..
wrong i donated last week try again smartie pants....
 
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You know what, Jim? I feel sorry for you, I really do. God have mercy on you is all I can say..
i think you dont have Gods mercy on me ..... coz only God has mercy for me in this stinking world..

so once again try again you do not fool me with your self absord attitude..
 
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AND never quit......we do not give up the struggle ever....to the bitter end we stand for the truth regardless of the naysayers and the mouthy comments......
Yup but standing for the truth at no matter what expence to the person on the recieving end.... whether that be condeming someone to hell if they dont they dont believe you is what your truth repersents..


but the truth of this is Jesus the father and the holy spirit dont force there beliefs so why do you ?
 
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Free loaders

Have you noticed what the greatest command is?
Love God with all your, heart, soul, mind and strength. In other words everything.

Are those who love like this are they idle doing nothing, just along for the ride?

Jesus says the kingdom is like a man who finds treasure in a field, sells all he has
to buy this field. Nothing is held back, all is given.

Finding the path, listening, learning from the teacher, following, growing in understanding,
choosing to die to self and live to Christ are all what? Effort and work.

Work out your salvation in fear and trembling. Repent of sin, weep, wail, humble yourselves,
and He will lift you up.

One has to be blind, deaf and dumb not to see this. But then you all tell me why.
No true fellowship, always too independent, too private, fighting struggles without
connecting, being vulnerable and knowing the touch of His grace and forgiveness.

And when I shine the light on issues, I must be the enemy???? If there is darkness, only
the enemy wants it hidden? In the light there are no issues other than the ones
we are working on. Here defeat is not seeing needs well enough, and not knowing
how to respond to the lost.

In Christ we have life, life without end if we stay within it.
yup apparently that comes as part of the free loaded package of God...

The free loaders mentality is to not repent coz God has allready forgiven them..

The free loaders mentality is all works will be done by the spirit living in them..

In other words the free loaders are saying you loaded your spirit on me God and you can do the work through me.. ill just be a guinne pig for you...


Isnt that possession and ownership with no free will ?
 
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Yup but standing for the truth at no matter what expence to the person on the recieving end.... whether that be condeming someone to hell if they dont they dont believe you is what your truth repersents..


but the truth of this is Jesus the father and the holy spirit dont force there beliefs so why do you ?
What you fail to understand Jimmy is that I condemn no one to hell, but I can rightfully judge a dogma or doctrine to see if it is of God or not...I will add that works to gain, keep or embellish salvation does not quite cut the proverbial mustard........
 
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yup apparently that comes as part of the free loaded package of God...

The free loaders mentality is to not repent coz God has allready forgiven them..

The free loaders mentality is all works will be done by the spirit living in them..

In other words the free loaders are saying you loaded your spirit on me God and you can do the work through me.. ill just be a guinne pig for you...


Isnt that possession and ownership with no free will ?
No Jimmy....actually it is called being a living sacrifice and allowing God to work through you........!!
 
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wrong i donated last week try again smartie pants....
Did the Pharisees brag and or boast of all that they gave.......? Just think Jimmy....the widow woman gave the least of them all....yet she gave the most because she gave ALL that she had and she gave for the right reason.......!
 
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What you fail to understand Jimmy is that I condemn no one to hell, but I can rightfully judge a dogma or doctrine to see if it is of God or not...I will add that works to gain, keep or embellish salvation does not quite cut the proverbial mustard........
mustard as far as i know cant be cut as its liquid,,, it can however give a nasty sting on the end of ya tounge sort of like a bad tatse...


If people want to believe that doing Good works will keep them right with God who are we to judge that when theres 1 hundred thousand or so diffrent denominations all claiming to be right by God ?
 
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Did the Pharisees brag and or boast of all that they gave.......? Just think Jimmy....the widow woman gave the least of them all....yet she gave the most because she gave ALL that she had and she gave for the right reason.......!
actually boasting in the works of God is allowed...... AS I FEAL GOD LAYED IT UPON MY HEART TO DONATE..

NOW IF I TOLD YOU HOW MUCH THAT WOULD BE BRAGGING.. COZ IT DOEST MATTER HOW MUCH JUST THE INTENSIONS OF THE HEART...

SOMETHING FREE LOADERS WILL ALWAYS CALL BRAGGING IN MY BOOK...
 
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mustard as far as i know cant be cut as its liquid,,, it can however give a nasty sting on the end of ya tounge sort of like a bad tatse...


If people want to believe that doing Good works will keep them right with God who are we to judge that when theres 1 hundred thousand or so diffrent denominations all claiming to be right by God ?
The just shall live by faith Jimmy....not works.......

It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that BELIEVE<----not work for it!

How simple is that.......called and identified the SIMPLICITY that is FOUND in Christ.....BELIEVE=SAVED
 
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actually boasting in the works of God is allowed...... AS I FEAL GOD LAYED IT UPON MY HEART TO DONATE..

NOW IF I TOLD YOU HOW MUCH THAT WOULD BE BRAGGING.. COZ IT DOEST MATTER HOW MUCH JUST THE INTENSIONS OF THE HEART...

SOMETHING FREE LOADERS WILL ALWAYS CALL BRAGGING IN MY BOOK...
HAHA your hilarious Jimmy.....salvation is a free gift.....does that make all who receive it a free loader....

For in the grace you are, having been saved out of faith and that not of yourselves, it is the GIFT of GOD not of works lest any man should boast.....
 
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What you fail to understand Jimmy is that I condemn no one to hell, but I can rightfully judge a dogma or doctrine to see if it is of God or not...I will add that works to gain, keep or embellish salvation does not quite cut the proverbial mustard........
dc - The problem with this comment it fails to match your behaviour.
You have condemned me to hell and said I am leading others to hell.
That is specific and personal, not even linked to a theological point.

Now if you had said I think this idea is heresy, do you agree or disagree, you jump on the
idea of slander and abuse without blinking.

Now if you knew the Lord your heart would question this and say, wait, am I right?
You know dc I have tried to get to your more open caring side, but you have closed the door.
But even as your enemy, you are commanded to love me, and be open to my heart and my
needs. But I think you are actually not so good at the loving game, just the confrontation,
macho game. Jesus is not like you, and does not play or act like this.

Why are you still packing heat after so many years out of the army? Is it so dangerous around
you or you have made so many enemies this makes sense?

I would have 2nd thoughts meeting someone like you, ex-marine with a gun fixation and the
need to be ready to take a life at all times. ptsd or some anxiety trauma under the surface.

I used to live in fear, until I put everything in the Lords hands. Now I know His love and His blessing,
and whatever comes I am safe in His hands. Until you lay down all your defences you do not know
truly if you still have something in reserve that even you did not know about. God bless you, for
Jesus is stunning and I desire we all might know His love more deeply in all our lives.
 
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Yes we chose to, it does not mean we want to, I do alot of things my heart do not want to do, like Paul, I know what a wretched man I am, that's why. Have t stay in fellowship, have t stay in discipleship, have to be open with my sin life, people who do not do this are in trouble
Didnt you say you do this automatically when your Child of God and you dont need to do works...

Are you saying now if you dont stay in decipleship your in trouble ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and doing works is a must not to be in trouble ?
 
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The just shall live by faith Jimmy....not works.......

It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that BELIEVE<----not work for it!

How simple is that.......called and identified the SIMPLICITY that is FOUND in Christ.....BELIEVE=SAVED
Show me a real faith with out works and i will cut my tounge off
 
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dc - The problem with this comment it fails to match your behaviour.
You have condemned me to hell and said I am leading others to hell.
That is specific and personal, not even linked to a theological point.

Now if you had said I think this idea is heresy, do you agree or disagree, you jump on the
idea of slander and abuse without blinking.

Now if you knew the Lord your heart would question this and say, wait, am I right?
You know dc I have tried to get to your more open caring side, but you have closed the door.
But even as your enemy, you are commanded to love me, and be open to my heart and my
needs. But I think you are actually not so good at the loving game, just the confrontation,
macho game. Jesus is not like you, and does not play or act like this.

Why are you still packing heat after so many years out of the army? Is it so dangerous around
you or you have made so many enemies this makes sense?

I would have 2nd thoughts meeting someone like you, ex-marine with a gun fixation and the
need to be ready to take a life at all times. ptsd or some anxiety trauma under the surface.

I used to live in fear, until I put everything in the Lords hands. Now I know His love and His blessing,
and whatever comes I am safe in His hands. Until you lay down all your defences you do not know
truly if you still have something in reserve that even you did not know about. God bless you, for
Jesus is stunning and I desire we all might know His love more deeply in all our lives.
Peter...no offence, but you have comprehension problems....how many people have told you that you fail to understand what is said in any given conversation....there is no problem with my statement....I have judged your doctrine along side the word of GOD and it comes up lacking and insufficient to save anyone....so...by default if your dogma by the word cannot save you....it for sure cannot save someone else....many have pointed this out to you and you still fail to understand the simple verbiage being spoken in a language you are supposed to be fluent in.......now for the xxx time....I do not condemn you per se, but rather your dogma to be false......is that too difficult to understand?
 
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I've read every one of your posts...can you put them all together and try to help us understand what you are saying?
why , if logic , has to find, a basic understand, yet still rejects the logic of bible proof. then why,dose it, matter what i post.

what was use as proof, to what you believe in. (this forum topic)

and acts 15, when was the law of moses was given to a gentile.

acts 2 ,when was a gentile at pentecoste.

7 Other seed fell among thorns, and the thorns grew up and choked it, and it yielded no grainMark 4: The Parable of the Sower

thorn that choked the wheat from growing.

.3 I testify again to every man who accepts circumcision that he is obligated to keep the whole law.4 You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace

and to keep the whole law, you need a temple of stone

who are the weeds or chokers, if they cannot prove with bible proof there stand in faith,
 
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Show me a real faith with out works and i will cut my tounge off
Show me where anyone has said that a true believer will not bear fruit or have works..........Abraham was declared righteous and justified by faith LONG before he was whacked (circumcised) or offered Isaac upon the altar.......

David describe the blessedness of the man to whom GOD IMPUTES righteousness without the deeds of the law (works).....

Take it up with God Jimmy.....
 

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If anyone here is self-absorbed, it's you with your snotty "I'm better than you because I donate" attitude.. You act like we're all POC here.. guess what, we're not..


i think you dont have Gods mercy on me ..... coz only God has mercy for me in this stinking world..

so once again try again you do not fool me with your self absord attitude..