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AllenW

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Allen, we do not need to be teacher to post in this forum. Just post what I believe It is right and It may help fellow man not lost and go to wrong direction. It is away to danger. Catholic more danger than satanism.

people know wo is in behind satanism. They know It is bad

But in catholicims, most people think, It is from God. They think purgatory teaching is from God.

Look at, catholic helping the poor. She wrapped her teaching AS If the teaching of God.

Helping the poor may good, but what is the ultimatum goal

Is that gain sympathy for gain more follower, to delivered to hell.

Helping poor, or Helping devil to get more friend in hell?
Well Jackson, there aren't many catholics on this forum
you need to go to a catholic forum and tell them
or did they all throw you off already?
 

Jackson123

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Well Jackson, there aren't many catholics on this forum
you need to go to a catholic forum and tell them
or did they all throw you off already?
In the Indonesian forum I have been throw 3 time, in english forum, there is one that I am not able to post anymore, They not tell me anything but I do not know why I am not able to post.
 

Bladerunner

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no, antichrist come from religion AS It were Christian, not muslim

I believe It is pope.

Among charateristics of the antichrist are

went out from us / Christian but not one of us

have great power over all nations /rev 13.

worship by all nations/religious Leader

etc
1 John 2.
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
The Bible tells us in Daniel 9:26...."and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary"

The 'People of the Prince' was the Romans. Titans Vespasian was a prince to become emperor. Now there are a few things to consider here.

1. There were two sections of the Roman Empire--- East and the West. The West where the Vatican is located in collapses 1000 years before the eastern leg does.

2. the 2nd point is that the Roman Army paid the people of the area to be in their army... There was a high price! They had to serve twenty years. but in the end they would become a Roman Citizen. Of course they got paid during this time. The Roman Empire extended into Irag, Syria, Turkey, etc. Thus the "People of the Prince" would have been from this area.

Throughout the Bible 'the Assyrian' was spoken of in 13 different verses over 4 books. For the most part 'the Assyrian' they were speaking of was 'Nimrod'. The first ruler of the first empire on earth.

It appears that the Biblical pattern setforth in the OT will again grip Israel with the potential for destruction at the hands of an Assyrian at the 'End of Days'. During these days the anti-christ, 'the Assyrian' will come to give peace to a world at a time of terrible wars.

Most likely this 'assyrian' will be of Muslim descent. If this is the case, Islam will most likely be the Religion involved. However, I believe that during this time, the Woman that rides the Beast will convince most people of the world to join a one world's religion. Thus, while Islam may play a part in the beginning stages of an Anti-Christ, I do not think it will be the One World Religion.

The wars that are predicted by Bible prophecy will mostly be in the Middle Eastern area. During the time of the Harpazo

One has to rem, the prophecies that have yet to be fulfilled will destroy a lot of countries and cities in the middle eastern area. (i.e. Damascus, Elam, All those countries that surround Israel, etc.)

 

Bladerunner

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I did not finish this thought before I hit the button.

"The wars that are predicted by Bible prophecy will mostly be in the Middle Eastern area. During the time of the Harpazo".

As time marches on, World War sucks all nations into an abyss of no return.

From the time of the Harpozo until the beginning of Daniel's 70th week, a gap will occur that will be one of the most devastating times the world has ever seen up to this point. This will be the time of the anti-christ's building, a time of wars most likely a world war, a time of famine, pestilence and death on a scale that would put WWII to shame. Where some 250 million died during that war, billions of deaths are on the horizon with even more terrible times ahead during Daniel's 70th week.

Was it not Jesus who said in Mat 24:22 the ..."22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."


7 Billion lives on earth. I don't know how many will die during this time but this verse says it all and is pretty clear as to what will happen.
 

Jackson123

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The Bible tells us in Daniel 9:26...."and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary"

The 'People of the Prince' was the Romans. Titans Vespasian was a prince to become emperor. Now there are a few things to consider here.

1. There were two sections of the Roman Empire--- East and the West. The West where the Vatican is located in collapses 1000 years before the eastern leg does.

2. the 2nd point is that the Roman Army paid the people of the area to be in their army... There was a high price! They had to serve twenty years. but in the end they would become a Roman Citizen. Of course they got paid during this time. The Roman Empire extended into Irag, Syria, Turkey, etc. Thus the "People of the Prince" would have been from this area.

Throughout the Bible 'the Assyrian' was spoken of in 13 different verses over 4 books. For the most part 'the Assyrian' they were speaking of was 'Nimrod'. The first ruler of the first empire on earth.

It appears that the Biblical pattern setforth in the OT will again grip Israel with the potential for destruction at the hands of an Assyrian at the 'End of Days'. During these days the anti-christ, 'the Assyrian' will come to give peace to a world at a time of terrible wars.

Most likely this 'assyrian' will be of Muslim descent. If this is the case, Islam will most likely be the Religion involved. However, I believe that during this time, the Woman that rides the Beast will convince most people of the world to join a one world's religion. Thus, while Islam may play a part in the beginning stages of an Anti-Christ, I do not think it will be the One World Religion.

The wars that are predicted by Bible prophecy will mostly be in the Middle Eastern area. During the time of the Harpazo

One has to rem, the prophecies that have yet to be fulfilled will destroy a lot of countries and cities in the middle eastern area. (i.e. Damascus, Elam, All those countries that surround Israel, etc.)

Islam may involve, but the antichrist is not islam
apostle John Said antichrist went out from us but not one of us

went out from Christian but not christian

look like christian but not
 

Bladerunner

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Islam may involve, but the antichrist is not islam
apostle John Said antichrist went out from us but not one of us

went out from Christian but not christian

look like christian but not
Have you got a book, chapter verse for that.

Anti-christ is spoke of by John in only John I and II..... John is not talking about the same Anti-christ of the end times....... He is speaking of those men that teach false unbiblical Christ. Anti-Christ.

Might I say that the ANTI-Christ is a misnomer for the word Antichristos. In the endtimes,,,Pseudo-Christ or 'in place of Christ'

The Anti-Christ opens Daniel's 70th week.

 

Jackson123

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Have you got a book, chapter verse for that.

Anti-christ is spoke of by John in only John I and II..... John is not talking about the same Anti-christ of the end times....... He is speaking of those men that teach false unbiblical Christ. Anti-Christ.

Might I say that the ANTI-Christ is a misnomer for the word Antichristos. In the endtimes,,,Pseudo-Christ or 'in place of Christ'

The Anti-Christ opens Daniel's 70th week.

1 John 2

18 Little children,

it is the last time:


and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

john Said

It is the last time/end time, so John talking last time antichrist, the antichrist has been exist from John time, last time start in John era. then in the very last time Will rule the world as a leader of one world government

the characteristict not Change, look like Christian But not

no wonder vatican call for one world government to promote the antichrist



[h=1]Vatican calls for One World Government. Really.[/h]By ROD DREHEROctober 24, 2011, 12:47 PM

Here is news about a new economic policy statement from the Vatican. Lots of good stuff in the document about abuses in the neoliberal world economy, and the need for reform. But then there’s this, from Reuters:
The Vatican called for the establishment of “a supranational authority” with worldwide scope and “universal jurisdiction” to guide economic policies and decisions.
Such an authority should start with the United Nations as its reference point but later become independent and be endowed with the power to see to it that developed countries were not allowed to wield “excessive power over the weaker countries”.
Here is the full text of the document. It’s actually worse than that news report. A direct quote; emphases mine:
 

Bladerunner

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1 John 2

18 Little children,

it is the last time:


and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

john Said

It is the last time/end time, so John talking last time antichrist, the antichrist has been exist from John time, last time start in John era. then in the very last time Will rule the world as a leader of one world government

the characteristict not Change, look like Christian But not

no wonder vatican call for one world government to promote the antichrist



[h=1]Vatican calls for One World Government. Really.[/h]By ROD DREHEROctober 24, 2011, 12:47 PM

Here is news about a new economic policy statement from the Vatican. Lots of good stuff in the document about abuses in the neoliberal world economy, and the need for reform. But then there’s this, from Reuters:
The Vatican called for the establishment of “a supranational authority” with worldwide scope and “universal jurisdiction” to guide economic policies and decisions.
Such an authority should start with the United Nations as its reference point but later become independent and be endowed with the power to see to it that developed countries were not allowed to wield “excessive power over the weaker countries”.
Here is the full text of the document. It’s actually worse than that news report. A direct quote; emphases mine:

Yes, false teachers teaching against Christ....anti-christ....
 
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I've heard some people say that Victoria Osteen will be the anti-christ.
And that she is infallible as well.
LOL

All women are infallible !

And I don't want any argument from you !!!
;)
 
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In the Indonesian forum I have been throw 3 time, in english forum, there is one that I am not able to post anymore, They not tell me anything but I do not know why I am not able to post.
Well Jackson,
Like I said, I don't know much about eschatology, but I know this much...

If you go to a Catholic site and say that the Pope is the Anti-Christ, they won't be too happy about it and will tend to ban you.

I myself do not believe the Pope is the anti-Christ. How could he be when he preaches love for Jesus?
 

notuptome

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I myself do not believe the Pope is the anti-Christ. How could he be when he preaches love for Jesus?
Now that is amusing. The pope cannot be the antichrist because he is gentile and the Jews will never follow a gentile in religious matters.

The Jesus that the pope loves is not the Jesus of the bible. Rome teaches that the pope is the vicar of Christ which usurps the office of the Holy Spirit.

Interesting that Jesus did not have an earthly throne from which He proposed to rule His church.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

Jackson123

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I've heard some people say that Victoria Osteen will be the anti-christ.
And that she is infallible as well.
I don't think so. Victoria oestin do not involve in politic. The beast have great authority to all nation, mean have political power like what pope have.
 

Jackson123

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Well Jackson,
Like I said, I don't know much about eschatology, but I know this much...

If you go to a Catholic site and say that the Pope is the Anti-Christ, they won't be too happy about it and will tend to ban you.

I myself do not believe the Pope is the anti-Christ. How could he be when he preaches love for Jesus?
Antichrist went out from us.

pretend to be Christian.

1john 2:18-19

antichrist Will rule the world, so there must be one world government in the near future

this link below Said vatican promote one world government.


vatican promote one world government?



don't you know one world government is antichrist government?

​vatican promote antichrist government. Close enough.


12 Times Pope Francis Has Openly Promoted a One World Religion or a New World Order — Charisma News
 

Jackson123

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Now that is amusing. The pope cannot be the antichrist because he is gentile and the Jews will never follow a gentile in religious matters.

The Jesus that the pope loves is not the Jesus of the bible. Rome teaches that the pope is the vicar of Christ which usurps the office of the Holy Spirit.

Interesting that Jesus did not have an earthly throne from which He proposed to rule His church.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
I think muslim, Christian etc not Happy either, but It Will use force to make It happen

the Bible indicate force Will play in this government

example: people Will forced to take mark of the beast
 
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Now that is amusing. The pope cannot be the antichrist because he is gentile and the Jews will never follow a gentile in religious matters.

The Jesus that the pope loves is not the Jesus of the bible. Rome teaches that the pope is the vicar of Christ which usurps the office of the Holy Spirit.

Interesting that Jesus did not have an earthly throne from which He proposed to rule His church.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
Always happy to amuse.
What are we doing here anyway??

Did I mention anything about Jews?
Do I keep repeating that I know little to nothing of eschatology?

IOW, I'm willing to talk about the Pope and how perfectly perfect he might be,
but NOT about how he'll be the anti-Christ.

I don't think anything too important could come out of the country he lives in. And I don't mean the Vatican City.
But that's a VERY PERSONAL opinion of mine and has nothing to do with anything.

So you know WHICH JESUS the Pope loves?
Are you telephathic?
How many Jesus are there anyway?

I hear talk about not serving the right Jesus. Here's what I think...:

There's only ONE Jesus...It's US who like to make HIM say different things.
So WE are the ones all mixed up.
JESUS IS ONE.

The Vicar of Christ. Yeah, well, the RCC goes too far.
Does the Word of Faith Church go too far?

Do you ever complain about THAT Church?
Just wondering.

BTW, the Catholic Church knows all about the Holy Spirit and that nothing could "usurp" it.
What a silly notion.

Jesus did not have an earthly throne, but He is a King.
And do you know what it means that He gave the KEYS to Peter?

Mathew 16:19