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Glad you saw that as it is definitely a lie.
It's shameful really. We have a young lady here seeking truth and he rushed in quoting heretics, fighting truth and lying to boot. That should be plenty there. I hope iamlearning sticks around and notes these things as well. Thanks bro for standing for truth. Hopefully Ben repents and the truth finds him.
It's shameful really. We have a young lady here seeking truth and he rushed in quoting heretics, fighting truth and lying to boot. That should be plenty there. I hope iamlearning sticks around and notes these things as well. Thanks bro for standing for truth. Hopefully Ben repents and the truth finds him.
I don't know all that much about open theism. Do you not believe an open theist can be one of your brethren, a saved born again child of God? Why do people feel the need to defame others as heretical to the degree they no longer are brethren when they love the same Christ as you do? Or do open theists deny Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior? I am not afraid to admit ignorance, and I had no clue who the author was to be honest. I was just giving it a read and open theism not withstanding, it was a good read on the points I read.
Look man. I don't have any beef with you. But you are flat out wrong in the stuff you're pushing here. You abandon truth for your false idea of love. I don't hate you. I don't hate open theists. But the truth is the truth. It's hard to swallow sometimes. I oppose you because you are pushing a heretical belief system. Doesn't mean I hate you, quite the contrary, and I hope one day you realize that.
Except I didn't lie. I opened this thread, read the first post and while I was posting my response, looking for scripture and then reading that article, by the time I posted many responses already came in. If you don't mind, I don't appreciate being called a liar and you simply are making that accusation by mere speculation. That isn't my character.
You have this belief that just because someone claims to be a christian, no matter how much heresy they spew, they can still be counted as a brother for the sake of "love" and "unity". Not how it works. Scripture condemns them and proves they are not our brothers. You are pushing and defending open theism and don't even know what it is. Like I said, go educate yourself before saying it's okay to do that.
I didn't defend open theism. I shared an article addressing the question the OP had, on Romans 9. Yes, the article happens to be written by an open theist, but as far as I can tell, it doesn't need the belief system of open theism to make its case. It uses context. So, please, don't say I am defending open theism when I don't even know what it is hardly (beyond the little research I literally just started doing).
I find that hilarious because to many Christians your very own doctrines could be considered heresy yet they don't deem you a heretic, but simply sincerely wrong. I never said people can have a huge amount of heresy and still be a Christian. I said if they deny Christ and Him crucified, then you have reason to deem them a heretic. Don't put words in my mouth and espouse that I am defending things that I am not.
I disagree. You really really need to get sound in doctrine and put an end to misrepresenting people. You directly misrepresented me purposefully. Then you became insulting only to play victim.
That you've been hoodwinked by an Open Theist should be cause for alarm to you.
Common ground seeking = compromise of truth. Unity isn't manufactured it is to be maintained and that is only done by not compromising.
That you've been hoodwinked by an Open Theist should be cause for alarm to you.
Common ground seeking = compromise of truth. Unity isn't manufactured it is to be maintained and that is only done by not compromising.