Idol worship on Easter

LanceA · Apr 16, 2017

Yes, scripture does not tell us how to celebrate Easter or speak of it. We should do away with this day on which we remember that He rose. Therefore, we should not ever celebrate anyones birthday either because scripture doesn't tell us to do this or how to do it. And we should insist to work on Presidents Day since it isn't in scripture. And we shouldn't drive cars because they aren't mentioned in scripture.

If someone began celebrating this day in order to worship eggs (don't know if they did or not but it sounds bizarre to me) should I stop honoring God and rejoicing that Christ rose from the grave and refuse to do that on this day? Follow your own conscience and if for conscience sake you feel you cannot rejoice on this day that Christ is alive because to do so would be evil or would lead others astray, then don't do it. I do not feel a twinge of conscience that I might lead someone astray for rejoicing that He is alive. I don't think my rejoicing that He is alive will lead anyone astray. I can't help it, my conscience is just not bothered. Too busy rejoicing.

Not trying to defend pagan practices, but the egg represents a renewal of life. It has to do with birth and the circle of life. So they didn't necessarily worship the egg just it represented something.

Stunnedbygrace · Apr 16, 2017

LanceA said:

Maybe...
An egg just represents breakfast to me though.
My conscience is not bothered by making pretty hard boiled eggs while I celebrate His living.
But if your conscience is bothered by it, then don't do it.

dcontroversal · Apr 16, 2017

Depleted said:

Were they ever?

LanceA · Apr 16, 2017

Stunnedbygrace said:

I'm not bothered by it. My son didn't some easter egg hunting this morning.

Depleted · Apr 16, 2017

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(He's still reigning forever and ever!)

MadebyHim · Apr 16, 2017

Been going on for a long time. Does any body think it strange the story of zeus in early egypt? Was the satan knowing God's plan, trying to make it look like Messiah coming before His time, same as anti-christ. Was pharoe first anti-christ? These questions came to mind seeing this title.

JaumeJ · Apr 16, 2017

I misspelled the goddess name I think. It is Eostere.....but it may have been spelled many ways.

I have been reading reivisionist history in the past few decades relating the word Easter withçe Esther and Astar and others,, but the Nordic, Germainic goddess of fertility was incorporated into the rCC in order to attract and keep those members of the church in the adaptiing of egss and spring to Passover.

Most professing believers in Jesus christ are not completely aware of just what Passover hs to de with the Resurrection of our Lord. As longas the love Him and do their utmost to please Him in Spirit and truth, thhey are going to be just fine I llike to believe. God bless you.

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Stunnedbygrace · Apr 16, 2017

This reminds me of Paul talking about eating food offered to idols and how some had a weak conscience and so then should not eat the food for the sake of conscience.
Others with not so weak a conscience should eat the pretty easter eggs and do so with thanks, not worrying about it because they know idols are not gods but are just lies and that the egg is just an egg.

Chokmahiel · Apr 16, 2017

Blik said:

Well they ain't right to attack you. The sword cuts two ways, there is no judgement for celebrating Easter or for not celebrating Easter. I suppose that's true, there is no biblical commandment to celebrate Easter., but there is no commandment not to celebrate it either.

As for whether they worship a goddess, from my understanding the reason they call it Easter in the English language that was the name of the month in olden times, so the English speaking world just called it after the name of the month. Now true they named the month after one of their ancient white people idols, but you will find that's not exactly uncommon even unto today. For example the month of March is named after the Greek/Roman demon called Mars, but Saint Patrick's Day isn't a celebration of that idol.

If I am not incorrect, the Romans and ancient Christians, and even still today, many of the non-English speaking Christians call/ed it Paschal, the Latinized form of the Hebrew word Pesach, or Passover, and Christianized the month to be called the Paschal Month, literally the month of the Passover, but then when it reached the Anglosphere, they just called it Easter.

Magenta · Apr 16, 2017

Blik said:

Perhaps you really have not seen the many other threads concerning the crucifixion and resurrection, and their connection to the Passover, where quite a few people have been sharing about the reason for the season, as it were. Do we need to take lessons from you? You cannot even get your facts straight, plus you misrepresent yourself and history, and then take swipes at everyone because we did not respond to your misinformation and lies the way you hoped we would. Perhaps you can try again next year. I suggest starting a little earlier to beat the rush, not misrepresenting history, and work on developing a better attitude in the mean time

Rockrz · Apr 16, 2017

Ham is not clean... even medical science has discovered ham is not healthy.

So, still no scriptures showing the Lord's call to action for New Covenant believers to celebrate "easter"

Where is this in God's Word exactly... anybody know???

Utah · Apr 16, 2017

Blik said:

Keep your eyes focused on Jesus and don't get tripped up over semantics. This is the day the Lord has made regardless of what we name it.

Utah · Apr 16, 2017

willybob said:

Blik said:

We have such an awsome God. You would think all humans would lister to His guidance for us and trust in it enough to follow it. Scripture tells us to celebrate His Son giving us the means for eternal life. The celebration is called Passover and it is very specific.

2,000 years ago a Roman Emperor named Constantine called many Christian Fathers together to establish a Christian religion. Their instructions were to do whatever they thought best except do like the Jews decided. The church fathers had gotten rid of the Jewish Christians who knew scripture. The fathers knew philosophy, gnostic, myths and such but little scripture. They didn't even have a New Testament yet. The Jews knew scripture. These men didn't even try to follow scripture when they established Christianity.

Passover was scratched, instead a celebration called Easter was created by them. They mixed in worship of the fertility goddess of springtime they were used to with eggs, bunnies, and Easter baskets. I am sure Chonstantine would be chucklish that his idol worship ways that were put in without God involved at all are still celebrated 2,000 years later but God instructions are ignored. Even the name for the celebration has nothing to do with scripture.[/QUote}

They were actually worshiping the Pagan Easter (the goddess Eshtar, Dianna, Isis, the queen of heaven) 2700 years ago; it was rebuked by Ezekiel and Jeremiah in chapters 8 and 7, and 44...The many current Holiday gods that are celebrated today go all the way back to the Tower of Babel..God's anger is kindled the most when His people insist on mixing the Holy with the profane..

The only mistake most people make celebrating Easter is that they only celebrate it one day a year. Jesus is risen; that makes every day Easter.

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dcontroversal said:

Yes! Life was no different way back when as it is now. Constantine really did start a movement that can now be called the Roman Catholic Church, and his purposes were good. He was out to free Christians from needing to hide from being killed by Roman soldiers, and he did. And he was out to find the rest of the Bible. (At that time, they had what we now call the Old Testament and something like 10,000 letters that may or may not be authentic, and may or may not be inspired. Those phony gospels came before Constantine and someone had to figure out which were phony and which were real. So they really did need to sort it all out, and they really did come up with what we now consider the New Testament.)

The church divides for two reasons still:
-- Some want to stay God focused.
-- Some want to remain self-focused.

Constantine got rid of a lot of junk floating around then, including that Jesus never was a man, just a concept/spirit, the trinity as a concept almost died out, and we really did almost miss the letter from James in the Bible. THAT really was brought to us through the RCC.

But just like we still do today, then more divisions erupted, because a church wouldn't stay true to God. The RCC simply became one of many. The same reason you can't trust every Lutheran church to be about God, every Baptist Church, or every Presbyterian Church. Often the splits are because the main church lost the vision. Sometimes the splits because the main church kept the vision. The RCC had the vision for a long time, and then lost it.

blue_ladybug · Apr 16, 2017

The whole entire catholic church is in error.. Just saying..lol

Blik said:

The information I gave comes from the reports of the Christian Councils that are kept by the Catholic Church. Are you saying that these reports are in error?[/QUOTE]

blue_ladybug · Apr 16, 2017

Happy Easter, everyone.

*Goes and plays Easter mahjong*

Stunnedbygrace · Apr 16, 2017

Rockrz said:

No Christian has made a law that you must celebrate Him being alive on this day. You should neither make a law forbidding anyone to celebrate Him being alive on this day.

joaniemarie · Apr 16, 2017

Angela53510 said:

Lance, thanks for coming to my defense.

So a negative Nellie posts untrue things about Constantine and Church Councils, and I am raked over the coals, instead of the OP, who was certainly not posting because she loves everyone in this forum. She is coming from her Hebrew Roots bias. Although I will say, she is a very nice woman, although very delusional about doctrine, and certainly not coming from a factual point of view where history is concerned.

It irks me when people come on here and post false doctrine or heresy. I argue to the death, and mostly try to not get personal. Except sometimes, like when someone says I have no faith because I am not healed. I take that as a direct insult, and one coming out of ignorance of what the bible actually says!

But, when someone jumps on this anti-holiday bandwagon, and doesn't even use the facts, perhaps I do use more distain than I should. I've certainly taken church history in seminary, but I knew when Constantine lived long before I was a Christian, forget about seminary. So I apologize if what I posted seemed harsh. But I think correcting wrong facts, is pretty important. Missing the fall of Jerusalem, persecution of Christians and the terrible deaths of Christians killed in the gladiator arenas and Roman circuses are a vital part of Christianity. To say nothing of the fact that Constantine stopped the perscution of Christians. That is 300 years, or 3 centuries from the death of Christ count! Not 2000 years ago, as I already said!

To say nothing of the fact, that the entire argument that Constantine did so much evil to true Christians, is a complete lie. No, the councils didn't get everything perfect, but ending the Arian crisis and stopping Donatism certainly have to count for something good!

Then, not sure where the proof is, that Constantine ever established dates for Christmas and Easter. I've just finished reading a lot on him, and it simply doesn't say or imply anywhere that Constantine started these holidays, although he did decree something about not celebrating the death and resurrection on the day before the Passover. Perhaps that is what these Hebrew
Roots people object to?

Again, some people don't seem to understand the basic fact, that when you report easily googled history facts wrong, it does taint everything else that person says. Especially when we have beaten this dead horse too many times! (I know, someone else said it first!)

joaniemarie · Apr 16, 2017

Angela53510 said:

Well how can people take everything mean you write so "personally"???? Couldn't possibly have anything to do with being insulted up one side and down another for disagreeing with you? Naaaa It's all their own fault for being so sensitive to the "truth" yep, that's gotta be it!!

I'm enjoying getting some mileage out of these emoticons.

tanakh · Apr 16, 2017

Blik said:

We have such an awsome God. You would think all humans would lister to His guidance for us and trust in it enough to follow it. Scripture tells us to celebrate His Son giving us the means for eternal life. The celebration is called Passover and it is very specific.

2,000 years ago a Roman Emperor named Constantine called many Christian Fathers together to establish a Christian religion. Their instructions were to do whatever they thought best except do like the Jews decided. The church fathers had gotten rid of the Jewish Christians who knew scripture. The fathers knew philosophy, gnostic, myths and such but little scripture. They didn't even have a New Testament yet. The Jews knew scripture. These men didn't even try to follow scripture when they established Christianity.

Passover was scratched, instead a celebration called Easter was created by them. They mixed in worship of the fertility goddess of springtime they were used to with eggs, bunnies, and Easter baskets. I am sure Chonstantine would be chucklish that his idol worship ways that were put in without God involved at all are still celebrated 2,000 years later but God instructions are ignored. Even the name for the celebration has nothing to do with scripture.

I suggest you read up on some unbiased church history, because what you have posted is absolute rubbish

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