Idol worship on Easter

[joaniemarie]

Well they ain't right to attack you. The sword cuts two ways, there is no judgement for celebrating Easter or for not celebrating Easter. I suppose that's true, there is no biblical commandment to celebrate Easter., but there is no commandment not to celebrate it either.

As for whether they worship a goddess, from my understanding the reason they call it Easter in the English language that was the name of the month in olden times, so the English speaking world just called it after the name of the month. Now true they named the month after one of their ancient white people idols, but you will find that's not exactly uncommon even unto today. For example the month of March is named after the Greek/Roman demon called Mars, but Saint Patrick's Day isn't a celebration of that idol.

If I am not incorrect, the Romans and ancient Christians, and even still today, many of the non-English speaking Christians call/ed it Paschal, the Latinized form of the Hebrew word Pesach, or Passover, and Christianized the month to be called the Paschal Month, literally the month of the Passover, but then when it reached the Anglosphere, they just called it Easter.

No, it's not right to be attacked for bringing up a concern about how everyone is celebrating Easter and it seems very odd to us as Christians too. As I remember when we were raising our children, we were concerned about the Christmas tree and the Easter bunny and other holiday traditions that were taking away from the subject of the holiday; "Jesus".

As the years have moved forward those issues are not shocking or troublesome anymore because we learned as we go forward in life the principle of the Sabbath was made for man., man was not made for the Sabbath. Jehovah witnesses won't even celebrate their own birthdays for fear of doing an injustice to God.

This is how many Christians come to an end result of this issue of holy days (holidays) .,time and experience takes time and experience. We don't learn by being humiliated by a room of people coming down on us for even asking the question that genuinely caused us to wonder to bring it up in forum in the first place.

Shall we count who knows more Greek letters and words? Should we see who got an A+ on their History exams?? Should we measure who has more points? Seems to be the consensus around here as a rule of thumb., shame your "opponent" till they cry "uncle"

 

[blue_ladybug]

Angela is hecka lot smarter than many people here. That being said, many people here wouldn't know truth if it bit them on the butt.. Just saying..

Well how can people take everything mean you write so "personally"???? Couldn't possibly have anything to do with being insulted up one side and down another for disagreeing with you? Naaaa It's all their own fault for being so sensitive to the "truth" yep, that's gotta be it!!

I'm enjoying getting some mileage out of these emoticons.

 

[blue_ladybug]

When people take it upon themselves to insult others, they SHOULD be "shamed"..

No, it's not right to be attacked for bringing up a concern about how everyone is celebrating Easter and it seems very odd to us as Christians too. As I remember when we were raising our children, we were concerned about the Christmas tree and the Easter bunny and other holiday traditions that were taking away from the subject of the holiday; "Jesus".

As the years have moved forward those issues are not shocking or troublesome anymore because we learned as we go forward in life the principle of the Sabbath was made for man., man was not made for the Sabbath. Jehovah witnesses won't even celebrate their own birthdays for fear of doing an injustice to God.

This is how many Christians come to an end result of this issue of holy days (holidays) .,time and experience takes time and experience. We don't learn by being humiliated by a room of people coming down on us for even asking the question that genuinely caused us to wonder to bring it up in forum in the first place.

Shall we count who knows more Greek letters and words? Should we see who got an A+ on their History exams?? Should we measure who has more points? Seems to be the consensus around here as a rule of thumb., shame your "opponent" till they cry "uncle"

 

[joaniemarie]

Angela is hecka lot smarter than many people here. That being said, many people here wouldn't know truth if it bit them on the butt.. Just saying..

Of course of course., being smart gives one the opportunity to be extra cutting too. So yes, a lot angrier too! (just saying) And as often as so many here like to mention., with more gifts as a leader comes more responsibility and accountability........

 

[blue_ladybug]

Well, wouldn't you be angry and insulted if others constantly told you that the reason you're not healed, is because you lack faith, belief, and hope? If not, there's something wrong with you..

And a lot angrier too! (just saying)

 

[joaniemarie]

Well, wouldn't you be angry and insulted if others constantly told you that the reason you're not healed, is because you lack faith, belief, and hope? If not, there's something wrong with you..

It's a sad thing when people hear only what they want to hear. I've posted more times than not what I really have said only to have my words be ignored for the satisfaction of being angry at me regardless of what I really have said many many times. So if someone refuses to hear what I have said, the problem is with them not me.

 

[blue_ladybug]

That's because people would rather argue, than listen..

It's a sad thing when people hear only what they want to hear. I've posted more times than not what I really have said only to have my words be ignored for the satisfaction of being angry at me regardless of what I really have said many many times. So if someone refuses to hear what I have said, the problem is with them not me.

 

[joaniemarie]

That's because people would rather argue, than listen..

EXACTLY and insult and shame others for disagreeing with them. You are right this time bluelady.

 

[joaniemarie]

Much like being in a new kid in class room situation. The regular kids are pretty much settled in and the new guy comes and is different from a different back round. And treated as an outsider for being different. So instead of the group being inclusive, they maintain a distance. Almost making someone pay for being different than they are. That is for sure a sad state of affairs in the "classroom"

 

[Blik]

Well this morning my son went and found a bunch of eggs and he found an easter basket. That pesky heathen Easter Bunny did it again. I've prayed over my home so that Easter Bunny wouldn't return but he just keeps a coming. My son did enjoy his egg hunting and the batman headphones he got. I'm sure glad at 7 years old he understands today is about our Lord and Savior and that He defeated death. And my son had a little fun with celebrating the true meaning of Easter.

Happy Easter/Resurrection Day. God Bless all of you and don't worry about the silly stuff.

God's guidance leads to love, abundance and joy, it is NOT silly stuff.

 

[Rockrz]

No Christian has made a law that you must celebrate Him being alive on this day. You should neither make a law forbidding anyone to celebrate Him being alive on this day.

I'm talking about... what did the Lord instruct us to do???

Romans 8:14
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

John 16:13
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak

John 17:17
Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

If God did not give us instructions to observer easter and christmas... then the Holy Spirit is not leading God's people to do so.

Celebrating the Lord's birth and resurrection should be something all Christians do every moment of everyday... not this religious, man-made holiday that's not of God.

So, still no scriptures showing the Lord's call to action for New Covenant believers to celebrate "easter"

Where is this in God's Word exactly... anybody know???

 

[hornetguy]

I'm talking about... what did the Lord instruct us to do???

Romans 8:14
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

John 16:13
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak

John 17:17
Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

If God did not give us instructions to observer easter and christmas... then the Holy Spirit is not leading God's people to do so.

Celebrating the Lord's birth and resurrection should be something all Christians do every moment of everyday... not this religious, man-made holiday that's not of God.

So, still no scriptures showing the Lord's call to action for New Covenant believers to celebrate "easter"

Where is this in God's Word exactly... anybody know???

There are many things that are not spelled out in the word. It is not a book of "laws".... we have freedom in Christ. If we wish to celebrate a certain day, we are free to do that.

The word didn't say anything about celebrating birthdays, either. It also didn't spell out specifically when we should partake in the communion. It says nothing about attending weddings, or funerals... we are not "told" to do things like that.

Several people have posted the scripture that says we are not to judge, or let anyone judge us for the festivals, Sabbaths, or holidays we keep.. or don't keep. We are free to do as our conscience leads us... which means the Spirit would be leading us.

If your conscience tells you not to participate, or celebrate Easter, then you should not do it. But YOUR conscience is not binding on other believers.

 

[maxwel]

We have such an awsome God. You would think all humans would lister to His guidance for us and trust in it enough to follow it. Scripture tells us to celebrate His Son giving us the means for eternal life. The celebration is called Passover and it is very specific.

2,000 years ago a Roman Emperor named Constantine called many Christian Fathers together to establish a Christian religion. Their instructions were to do whatever they thought best except do like the Jews decided. The church fathers had gotten rid of the Jewish Christians who knew scripture. The fathers knew philosophy, gnostic, myths and such but little scripture. They didn't even have a New Testament yet. The Jews knew scripture. These men didn't even try to follow scripture when they established Christianity.

Passover was scratched, instead a celebration called Easter was created by them. They mixed in worship of the fertility goddess of springtime they were used to with eggs, bunnies, and Easter baskets. I am sure Chonstantine would be chucklish that his idol worship ways that were put in without God involved at all are still celebrated 2,000 years later but God instructions are ignored. Even the name for the celebration has nothing to do with scripture.

Blik,

I was going to point out some errors...

but then I realized you probably just have trouble with Math, Spelling, the Old Testament, the New Testament, and History, because you're 91 years old....
and your mind is just no longer running in top form.


NO WORRIES!

GLAD YOU'RE HERE!

Even if you get a lot of simple things confused, I think you're doing FANTASTIC for a 91 year old woman!

I think old ladies are the coolest, and I'd love to hang out with you and chat, but you'd probably just forget whatever we talk about anyway, and I'm awful busy to spend time chatting about things nobody will even remember.



Since you probably can't remember anything you're trying to talk about,
I'll just ignore your posts, and say GLAD YOU'RE HERE!!!

IT'S GREAT TO HAVE YOU!

 

[hornetguy]

Blik,

I was going to point out some errors...

but then I realized you probably just have trouble with Math, Spelling, the Old Testament, the New Testament, and History, because you're 91 years old....
and your mind is just no longer running in top form.


NO WORRIES!

GLAD YOU'RE HERE!

Even if you get a lot of simple things confused, I think you're doing FANTASTIC for a 91 year old woman!

I think old ladies are the coolest, and I'd love to hang out with you and chat, but you'd probably just forget whatever we talk about anyway, and I'm awful busy to spend time chatting about things nobody will even remember.



Since you probably can't remember anything you're trying to talk about,
I'll just ignore your posts, and say GLAD YOU'RE HERE!!!

IT'S GREAT TO HAVE YOU!

I need an emoticon for spitting my drink on my keyboard.....

 

[joaniemarie]

Blik,

I was going to point out some errors...

but then I realized you probably just have trouble with Math, Spelling, the Old Testament, the New Testament, and History, because you're 91 years old....
and your mind is just no longer running in top form.


NO WORRIES!

GLAD YOU'RE HERE!

Even if you get a lot of simple things confused, I think you're doing FANTASTIC for a 91 year old woman!

I think old ladies are the coolest, and I'd love to hang out with you and chat, but you'd probably just forget whatever we talk about anyway, and I'm awful busy to spend time chatting about things nobody will even remember.



Since you probably can't remember anything you're trying to talk about,
I'll just ignore your posts, and say GLAD YOU'RE HERE!!!

IT'S GREAT TO HAVE YOU!

Unless you know something the rest of us don't, your comments about Blik are not funny at all. There a many 90 yr old people who are very wise and able more so than some who are younger. This constant need to be condescending is what is getting "OLD" and feeble.

 

[Rockrz]

The word didn't say anything about celebrating birthdays, either.

It says mourn at birth and rejoice at death...

It also didn't spell out specifically when we should partake in the communion.

It says as often as you partake do so in remembrance of Jesus...

If your conscience tells you not to participate, or celebrate Easter, then you should not do it. But YOUR conscience is not binding on other believers.

No, but the Lord's conscience IS... He is not a fan of idolatry

Deception is packaged into christmas and easter... satan enjoys leading people in to things that APPEAR to be good, but actually brings darkness because they did not originate from the Lord as some like to jump on things that the Spirit of the Lord is not leading anyone to do.

But, by all means... enjoy extra biblical celebrations that the Lord is not involved in and see how it works out with an open door to the enemy which is what this brings to a person's life.

 

[OneFaith]

Some calendars still call it "Passover", but to a Christian everyday is Christmas, and every Sunday (and really every day) is Easter/Passover. The Israelites painted the blood of a perfect lamb on the entrances to their homes, and the death angel passed over them, and none died. Just like Christians are baptized into the perfect Lamb of God's death, covered their hearts with His blood, and because of this we will escape eternal death- which is separation from God.

We know and practice the truth by going to church and living Christian lives. So what if a bunny representing fertility is made into a worldly holiday on one of those 52 Sundays a year? We don't gather to church to worship a bunny. Outside of the worship assembly, it is ok to do somethings that you wouldn't do in the worship assembly... like...

Watch the Super Bowl game once a year- does that mean it's a religion? Of course not. Just because something it is not religious does not make it evil- like celebrating birthdays.

If you took out everything that is done on Sundays outside of the worship assembly, you would have to take out much more than children collecting colorful eggs in baskets and eating chocolate. But if a church starts watching the Super Bowl, blowing out birthday candles, and passing Easter basketing full of chocolate in the pews, as part of the worship service- then I would say then, and only then, do you have a problem.

 

[tanakh]

It says mourn at birth and rejoice at death...




It says as often as you partake do so in remembrance of Jesus...




No, but the Lord's conscience IS... He is not a fan of idolatry

Deception is packaged into christmas and easter... satan enjoys leading people in to things that APPEAR to be good, but actually brings darkness because they did not originate from the Lord as some like to jump on things that the Spirit of the Lord is not leading anyone to do.

But, by all means... enjoy extra biblical celebrations that the Lord is not involved in and see how it works out with an open door to the enemy which is what this brings to a person's life.

The Jews have at least two festivals that the lord was not ''involved in'' and still celebrate to this day. One is Hanukkah,(Dedication) and the other is Purim. There is no record of Jesus having problems with them. Hanukkah is mentioned in Johns gospel. As I mentioned earlier the Jewish Months are named after Babylonian Gods and Goddesses as well. Too much is made out of celebrating Easter and Christmas. God looks at the intention of peoples hearts not outward appearances.

 

[Chokmahiel]

The Jews have at least two festivals that the lord was not ''involved in'' and still celebrate to this day. One is Hanukkah,(Dedication) and the other is Purim. There is no record of Jesus having problems with them. Hanukkah is mentioned in Johns gospel. As I mentioned earlier the Jewish Months are named after Babylonian Gods and Goddesses as well. Too much is made out of celebrating Easter and Christmas. God looks at the intention of peoples hearts not outward appearances.

Hmm, I thought Hanukkah was about God delivering Israel from the hands of the greeks and them purifying His temple. And I thought Purim was when God delivered the jews from the plot of the wicked Persian counsellor in the book of Esther. So I would think in both those festivals indeed the Lord was involved to save Israel from the devices of their enemies. Though I do like your wider point.

Esther 9:24-26

[SUP]24 [/SUP]Because Haman the son of Hammedatha, the Agagite, the enemy of all the Jews, had devised against the Jews to destroy them, and had cast Pur, that is, the lot, to consume them, and to destroy them;
[SUP]25 [/SUP]But when Esther came before the king, he commanded by letters that his wicked device, which he devised against the Jews, should return upon his own head, and that he and his sons should be hanged on the gallows.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Wherefore they called these days Purim after the name of Pur. Therefore for all the words of this letter, and of that which they had seen concerning this matter, and which had come unto them,

 

[tanakh]

Hmm, I thought Hanukkah was about God delivering Israel from the hands of the greeks and them purifying His temple. And I thought Purim was when God delivered the jews from the plot of the wicked Persian counsellor in the book of Esther. So I would think in both those festivals indeed the Lord was involved to save Israel from the devices of their enemies. Though I do like your wider point.

Esther 9:24-26

[SUP]24 [/SUP]Because Haman the son of Hammedatha, the Agagite, the enemy of all the Jews, had devised against the Jews to destroy them, and had cast Pur, that is, the lot, to consume them, and to destroy them;
[SUP]25 [/SUP]But when Esther came before the king, he commanded by letters that his wicked device, which he devised against the Jews, should return upon his own head, and that he and his sons should be hanged on the gallows.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Wherefore they called these days Purim after the name of Pur. Therefore for all the words of this letter, and of that which they had seen concerning this matter, and which had come unto them,

It depends on what you mean by God being involved. The main Jewish Festivals Passover, Pentecost and so on were specifically ordained by God and set out in the Torah. Hanukkah is not among them and neither is Purim. There are other
special days that they observe as well that are not ordained but relate to Jewish history.Many Jewish activities are related to God as from a purely Christian viewpoint is Easter and Christmas.