We get to heaven because we are Holy

[PeterJens]

This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all.
1 John 1:5

For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Live as children of light
Eph 5:8

You are all children of the light and children of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness.
1 Thess 5:5

 

[PeterJens]

Have nothing to do
with the fruitless
deeds of darkness,
but rather expose them.
Eph 5:11

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Love does no harm to a neighbor.
Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
Rom 13:10

Greater love has no one than this:
to lay down one’s life for one’s friends
John 15:13

Love one another.
As I have loved you,
so you must love one another
John 13:34

Thats true.

But you can not love like God loved, thus you will not be perfect.

And if your not perfect. Your not truly HOLY as GOD is holy.

and if your NOT HOLY as GOD IS HOLY, then as James said, You are guilty..

we are Holy Because God made us holy. Not because we are perfect..

 

[blue_ladybug]

We get to heaven because we are SAVED. It's a pretty simple concept, really.

 

[FreeNChrist]

Amen.

And where God dwells in communion there is His Holy dwelling. In our hearts.

He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith.
Acts 15:9

Now that you have purified yourselves by obeying the truth so that you have sincere love for each other, love one another deeply, from the heart.
1 Peter 1:22

All who have this hope in him purify themselves, just as he is pure.
1 John 3:3

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
1 John 1:9

Confession is the door to purification.

Therefore, since we have these promises, dear friends, let us purify ourselves from everything that contaminates body and spirit, perfecting holiness out of reverence for God.
2 Cor 7:1

Now these verses about being purified have not changed, so why do
you not believe them?

The same group with the same argument, the maelstrom of accusations
and definitions which scripture plainly lays out.

Read and hear where God has placed you through faith and walk in it.
Work through the realities else you are just denying what scripture
plainly calls out is the reality, which you need to make your own.

God is Holy. And what God is only God is. God alone is inherently and essentially holy. Created things can only be considered holy in a derivative sense. We cannot “possess” the attributes of God…we can only derive them from God Himself.

 

[PeterJens]

With God we will gain the victory, and he will trample down our enemies.
Psalm 108:13

For everyone born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith.
1 John 5:4

 

[eternally-gratefull]

We get to heaven because we are SAVED. It's a pretty simple concept, really.

which is what made us holy to begin with!!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

With God we will gain the victory, and he will trample down our enemies.
Psalm 108:13

For everyone born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith.
1 John 5:4

These passages you post are meaningless if you do not believe in them yourself Peter..

You have been asked a few times by a few people now why you claim to have victory, and all those things, but think people can lose them.. meaning we have not had any victory at all..


are you going not answer the questions? or keep posting verses

 

[resurrection33]

We get to heaven because we are Holy.

Think about this. We are sinners lost in sin, doomed to destruction.
We hear the gospel, we come to faith, we repent of our sins, confess and put our
faith in Christ and the cross for the forgiveness of our sins.

We are washed clean, made Holy, pure, a dwelling place for the Holy Spirit to dwell in.

We have passed from death to life, a new creation, a member of the Kingdom of Heaven.

Some would say, no we are not clean or purified or Holy, we are still sinners but God
looks at us through Christs righteousness alone, so he sees us as Christ though we are
not.

So which is true? Does God do a real work in our hearts or is it just a fake surface
with an imagined salvation, and that is good enough for God?

Now my experience is Christ washed me clean, though I do stumble along the way
I am counted righteous through my faith and not my walk. And each stumble, I repent
confess and get myself right and carry on along the path.

Now this is theology and the walk put together. But the hub or power is the love we
share in Christ at work in our hearts overflowing to others.

And I would hope, though I am sure I fail in many areas to show this love and desire
for Christ and attract others to our glorious Lord and saviour.

And it is curious, if I said I was a terrible sinner still steeped in sin, would this make the
sharing better, or I rejoice in Christ and His love each day, Amen.

We get to heaven because we are holy, and we become holy by repenting of our sin.

 

[PeterJens]

Dear reader,

What does amaze me is how contributors try to refute the word of God, as if their
logic is greater than the Lord on High.

Take the Levites from among all the Israelites and make them ceremonially clean. 7 To purify them, do this: Sprinkle the water of cleansing on them; then have them shave their whole bodies and wash their clothes. And so they will purify themselves.
Num 8:6-7

Purification is to make something Holy.

For seven days make atonement for the altar and consecrate it. Then the altar will be most holy, and whatever touches it will be holy.
Exodus 29:37

He is the altar which is Holy makes other things holy by just touching it.

So simply the definitions of what is Holy and what is not is given by God
and not man.

It is up to the reader to decide their choice, and the Lord will hold us
accountable.

 

[PeterJens]

We get to heaven because we are holy, and we become holy by repenting of our sin.

Amen. What struck me, which is truly something I have not appreciated before
is that God regards us as Holy. And as Holy precious people, to whom the Lord
Most High listens when we are gathered together, means the Lord has given
us great favour, though we were sinners lost far away, through repentance
and faith He has brought us near and communes with us. Amen.

 

[blue_ladybug]

You can purify drinking water. You can purify air. It don't make either one of them holy. It only makes them cleaner..lol

Dear reader,

What does amaze me is how contributors try to refute the word of God, as if their
logic is greater than the Lord on High.

Take the Levites from among all the Israelites and make them ceremonially clean. 7 To purify them, do this: Sprinkle the water of cleansing on them; then have them shave their whole bodies and wash their clothes. And so they will purify themselves.
Num 8:6-7

Purification is to make something Holy.

For seven days make atonement for the altar and consecrate it. Then the altar will be most holy, and whatever touches it will be holy.
Exodus 29:37

He is the altar which is Holy makes other things holy by just touching it.

So simply the definitions of what is Holy and what is not is given by God
and not man.

It is up to the reader to decide their choice, and the Lord will hold us
accountable.

 

[FreeNChrist]

We get to heaven because we are holy, and we become holy by repenting of our sin.

Jesus alone makes us holy, because He alone is Holy.

 

[PeterJens]

There are some here whose intention is just to criticise and mock.

Welcome and God bless you, you are the side show which we could not be without.

And all I quote I sincerely believe. I feel before the Lord it is not proper to respond
as it is just encouraging the maelstrom, rather than just demonstrating its pointlessness.

 

[garee]

So which is true? Does God do a real work in our hearts or is it just a fake surface
with an imagined salvation, and that is good enough for God?

Not good enough, just good as in perfect/complete. His good work is good enough. If he began it in us as new creatures he will finish it all the way to the end..We have His Word.

Remember it is God who does the mighty work in us to both will and do His good pleasure... according to the faith ,as a work of God, called a work of faith .By it we can as new creatures, believe to the salvation of one’s new soul . We are to have no confidence in the flesh

Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, “This is the "work of God”, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent. Joh 6:28 ......not of their own selves.

A imagined salvation comes from the imaginations of one heart as their own source of faith.(the unseen eternal) ) produced by a false pride. No man will be found with a righteousness of their own.

We are counted righteous through His work of faith not of our own faith which is dead in trespasses and sins. And because no one of their own volition seeks after God not seen they therefore have no spiritual understanding.

As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. Rom 3:10

He must do the first work called the hearing of faith (Christ’s) it turns us toward him who has no form and then we can repent. We could never get our own-selves right with Him .

How would a person find Him so that then they could repent.

I have surely heard Ephraim bemoaning himself thus; Thou hast chastised me, and I was chastised, as a bullock unaccustomed to the yoke: turn thou me, and I shall be turned; for thou art the LORD my God.
Surely "after that" I was turned, I repented; and after that I was instructed, I smote upon my thigh: I was ashamed, yea, even confounded, because I did bear the reproach of my youth.Jer 31:18

Now my experience is Christ washed me clean, though I do stumble along the way I am counted righteous through my faith and not my walk. And each stumble, I repent confess and get myself right and carry on along the path.

How clean did he wash you?

We are counted righteous by the faith of Christ, not of our own selves. Having His faith in respect to one’s own self is simply to blaspheme the Holy name by which we are called.

Without Christ doing the first work every time you can do nothing that could please Him. A person must be born again from above. They alone have passed (not will pass) from eternal separation (the one wage of sin) ,to eternal life, seeing Christ paid that wage in full, according to his labor of love/work of faith

 

[TraySir]

We get to heaven because we are Holy.

Think about this. We are sinners lost in sin, doomed to destruction.
We hear the gospel, we come to faith, we repent of our sins, confess and put our
faith in Christ and the cross for the forgiveness of our sins.

We are washed clean, made Holy, pure, a dwelling place for the Holy Spirit to dwell in.

We have passed from death to life, a new creation, a member of the Kingdom of Heaven.

Some would say, no we are not clean or purified or Holy, we are still sinners but God
looks at us through Christs righteousness alone, so he sees us as Christ though we are
not.

So which is true? Does God do a real work in our hearts or is it just a fake surface
with an imagined salvation, and that is good enough for God?

Now my experience is Christ washed me clean, though I do stumble along the way
I am counted righteous through my faith and not my walk. And each stumble, I repent
confess and get myself right and carry on along the path.

Now this is theology and the walk put together. But the hub or power is the love we
share in Christ at work in our hearts overflowing to others.

And I would hope, though I am sure I fail in many areas to show this love and desire
for Christ and attract others to our glorious Lord and saviour.

And it is curious, if I said I was a terrible sinner still steeped in sin, would this make the
sharing better, or I rejoice in Christ and His love each day, Amen.

I think of 1 John 1.7. If we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanseth us from all sin.
As you and many other readers know, the word cleanseth is a continual cleansing.
Walking in the light - that's defines our life. Walking with the Lord Jesus, following Him.
Cleanseth us from all sin - even though walking in the light, we do stumble, fall, sin. That sin, while we walk in the light, does not define us as being in darkness and out of fellowship. There's the continual cleansing for those who walk in the light, and with out that cleansing no person guilty of sin enters heaven.

 

[PennEd]

We get to heaven because we are holy, and we become holy by repenting of our sin.

What sin are we repenting of that makes us Holy? Careful now.

 

[PeterJens]

Somewhere is the religious mind of people connections go missing.

The temple and the Holy of Holies was purfied and made holy by cleansing and
sacrifice. Only when it was Holy did the Lord come and make His presence there.

Now the priests followed similar ceremonies and the basic for purification in the temple
was used to wash hands and feet before entering

Make a bronze basin, with its bronze stand, for washing. Place it between the tent of meeting and the altar, and put water in it. 19 Aaron and his sons are to wash their hands and feet with water from it.
Exodus 30:18-19

Holiness is part of God and part of approaching Him. But it appears a lot of
believers have no real clue over the bible and their God. So maybe their
commitment is not as mature and worked out as they claim, and the basics
still need to be established, in their minds let alone their hearts.

It is a wonder these same people would want to correct and rebuke me as
if I will respect both their teaching and experience which clearly falls short.

Some will say this is arrogance, but this is sunday school level bible knowledge.
Yet I am to believe heaven and hell stand in the balance for me. What a joke.

 

[gb9]

Somewhere is the religious mind of people connections go missing.

The temple and the Holy of Holies was purfied and made holy by cleansing and
sacrifice. Only when it was Holy did the Lord come and make His presence there.

Now the priests followed similar ceremonies and the basic for purification in the temple
was used to wash hands and feet before entering

Make a bronze basin, with its bronze stand, for washing. Place it between the tent of meeting and the altar, and put water in it. 19 Aaron and his sons are to wash their hands and feet with water from it.
Exodus 30:18-19

Holiness is part of God and part of approaching Him. But it appears a lot of
believers have no real clue over the bible and their God. So maybe their
commitment is not as mature and worked out as they claim, and the basics
still need to be established, in their minds let alone their hearts.

It is a wonder these same people would want to correct and rebuke me as
if I will respect both their teaching and experience which clearly falls short.

Some will say this is arrogance, but this is sunday school level bible knowledge.
Yet I am to believe heaven and hell stand in the balance for me. What a joke.

we attempt to correct you, or I do at least, because you are wrong in some of your beliefs, and we, or I, want to help you see this.

you cannot say that you are holy, while at the same time not recognizing the Biblical definition of sin. this is simply incorrect reasoning.

nothing against you, nothing personal. just pointing out incorrect beliefs.

 

[TraySir]

What sin are we repenting of that makes us Holy? Careful now.

I'll TRY to answer the question.
Maybe not so much of a single sin, but rather a repenting of the attitude, the heart that led to that sin. I take it the person knows, feels the guilt of the sin.

If I repent of this sin and that sin and then this sin and again that sin (and this sin and that sin - that can be sung/sang, there's a melody going through my mind, can't remember the words. Oh. Wait. Is this it: Have you ever seen a ....go this way and that way...? Help me remember.), what are we not repenting of.

Then we start looking for sin in our life just to be sure we have all bases covered. Just don't see it working that way. Leads to fear, dread, and pain, anger.