How to prove that the Earth is flat, and not a sphere...

[MattTooFor]

Yes - if only this ever actually happened...



Where are the thousands of real, actual, bonifide, unmodified, clear-and-clean, snapshot photographs ( not to mention video ) of the [ whole ] Earth from space that we should have by now...???

And, if we had / have them --- why would there be any reason to EVER create even a single composite "photoshop" image of Earth?????????? Which NASA admits to have done on ALL ( except maybe one ) of their pictures of Earth.

"Now - just think about this for a while..."

If we had real actual pictures of the whole Earth, why would we spend the time, energy, and effort - and money - to "piece together" an image of the Earth?????

Really now - think about this. Use your good God-given mind - and think about this.

You're very selective about which questions you answer. My oh my! We're still waiting on an answer as to why Qantas Airlines flies daily from Sydney, Australia to Santiago, Chile...in 12.5 hours. When, according to a flat earth map, it should be a HUGE haul of about 24 hours.

And all those amateur astronomers who observe and photograph orbiting spacecraft, like the space station...which has ZERO aerodynamics yet miraculously floats overhead...and cuts across the sky like clockwork every 90 minutes (or so). How do the 'powers that be' arrange for that, pray tell?

 

[posthuman]

Where are the thousands of real, actual, bonifide, unmodified, clear-and-clean, snapshot photographs ( not to mention video ) of the [ whole ] Earth from space that we should have by now...???

freely available at the goes-r and himawari weather satellites webpages for example, which satellites are positioned far enough away from earth to view the entire circle of her profile.

which has already been brought to your attention, but you reject without consideration, preferring ignorance & declaring any and all evidence contrary to your presupposition to be "fake news"

 

[PeterJens]

Wow. So went to goes-r web site, saw this video from the weather satallite showing
the daylight moving over the earth. Stunning.

[video=youtube;hVymyJ9q5a0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVymyJ9q5a0[/video]

They use a super high definition camera to show weather in different wavelengths of
light to help distinguish cloud, rain, storms etc.

Now imagine with $8 billion dollar budgets, 4 satallites over a 30 year program, you
would think if the earth was flat they would not bother.

The whole point of the system is to make money selling the information worldwide.
So unless worthless information is being bought to keep the whole con going
or the earth is a globe hanging in space.

 

[PeterJens]

This picture is a comparison between the images from two satallites goes-13 and goes-16

It shows the improvement in the technology and picture information.
In this context it shows how the earth is a globe and it is taken in a single shot.

 

[Sirk]

Well, like your cohort, you are presuming the heat given off by the flat earth sun is the same temperature of the globe earth sun. You dismiss the alternative with your presumptions, you are a fool and will remain one because your programming runs deep.

In one post you call him a demon and then call him a fool when he has been nothing but nice to you. In fact I've never seen tourist be mean to anyone. I for one would like an answer to the amateur astronomers photographing the space station every 90 minutes. Or are they part of the game too?

 

[posthuman]

Let's talk about being able to work things out.

It's the digital age and high definition cameras are everywhere, human beings love taking selfies, pictures of animals, and capturing nature pretty much everything imaginable. And it's cheap

NASA "sends up" probes, Mars rovers, ISS resupply and construction rockets, and does test launches regularly.

Radio waves are supposedly able to communicate to and from Mars as we navigate rovers and other projects. Mars is 35,000,000 miles away and I would never be able to believe that relay occurs, but since all of you accept this at face value I can just move on to my next point like a boss.

So you are telling me that no one straps a camera onto these various objects leaving our atmosphere at floating through space for the past couple decades? NASA doesn't jump at the opportunity to put a cheap camera onto there billion dollar projects and snap a quick picture for all the humans to see their home?

You believe that we have a couple pictures of the earth when there are countless oportunites to take new ones all the time and it would be a drop in the budget bucket and completely technological feasible. Why do you believe this? That is ridicilous to believe, more ridiculous than having a fringe belief on the shape of the earth.

What would be the use of putting a very expensive camera on a craft headed towards Mars whose only purpose is to take a couple snapshots to satisfy the demands of a person who will call them fake anyway? The Mars satellite cameras are not deployed until the craft is in orbit in order to protect them, snapshots of earth while an interplanetary craft is speeding away would not provide any useful meteorological data, and every pound sent out if Earths gravity well is incredibly expensive.

There are already highly specialized and capable weather satellites taking HD images of the full profile of our planet every 10 minutes. See my previous post. ((Not to mention all the LEO craft, including the ISS taking thousands of images every year)) But I guess you just deny that fact, since it destroys your pet conspiracy.

And you think I'm the one who hasn't thought things through...?

 

[pckts]

What would be the use of putting a very expensive camera on a craft headed towards Mars whose only purpose is to take a couple snapshots to satisfy the demands of a person who will call them fake anyway? The Mars satellite cameras are not deployed until the craft is in orbit in order to protect them, snapshots of earth while an interplanetary craft is speeding away would not provide any useful meteorological data, and every pound sent out if Earths gravity well is incredibly expensive.

There are already highly specialized and capable weather satellites taking HD images of the full profile of our planet every 10 minutes. See my previous post. ((Not to mention all the LEO craft, including the ISS taking thousands of images every year)) But I guess you just deny that fact, since it destroys your pet conspiracy.

And you think I'm the one who hasn't thought things through...?

Well the post I made was to someone else, but you are right I don't think you have thought things through either.

Right here demonstrates your poor deductive reasoning skills and high level of denial:

"What would be the use of putting a very expensive camera on a craft headed towards Mars whose only purpose is to take a couple snapshots to satisfy the demands of a person who will call them fake anyway?"

There would be a wonderful purpose to putting a cheap camera onto one of these outbound objects. You think the only reason to take a picture of the Earth is for evidence and scientific purposes? You don't think an honest and truthful organization wouldn't want to take videos and images of the earth, satellites in orbit, the ISS in orbit and all of these things? Maybe let the tax payers see first hand what they are funding?\

No, you believe a handful of pictures exist and the reason is it is too expensive and not worth the effort to record what we do.

 

[pckts]

What would be the use of putting a very expensive camera on a craft headed towards Mars whose only purpose is to take a couple snapshots to satisfy the demands of a person who will call them fake anyway? The Mars satellite cameras are not deployed until the craft is in orbit in order to protect them, snapshots of earth while an interplanetary craft is speeding away would not provide any useful meteorological data, and every pound sent out if Earths gravity well is incredibly expensive.

There are already highly specialized and capable weather satellites taking HD images of the full profile of our planet every 10 minutes. See my previous post. ((Not to mention all the LEO craft, including the ISS taking thousands of images every year)) But I guess you just deny that fact, since it destroys your pet conspiracy.

And you think I'm the one who hasn't thought things through...?

You also believe there were no stars in the moon landing footage, because the ENTIRETY of the six moon missions occurred during "lunar morning". That's the official B.S anyway, Idk what B.S you believe.

If you are going to put your faith in such weak lies of men in instead of The Bible, I won't be able to get through to you in this setting. I can't discuss this topic with you anymore.

 

[PeterJens]

You also believe there were no stars in the moon landing footage, because the ENTIRETY of the six moon missions occurred during "lunar morning". That's the official B.S anyway, Idk what B.S you believe.

If you are going to put your faith in such weak lies of men in instead of The Bible, I won't be able to get through to you in this setting. I can't discuss this topic with you anymore.

If you have ever tried to photograph stars you will know the amount of light
they produce can be flooded out simply by city light reflected in the sky.

So ofcourse in all the photographs on the moon you will not see stars.
It demonstrates a simple lack of understanding, not great conspiracy.

 

[pckts]

If you have ever tried to photograph stars you will know the amount of light
they produce can be flooded out simply by city light reflected in the sky.

So ofcourse in all the photographs on the moon you will not see stars.
It demonstrates a simple lack of understanding, not great conspiracy.

When I try to photograph stars I photograph them, when I do six missions spanning multiple days, (I don't know how to make this one clever but when you do six missions spanning multiple days, at some point a camera would have been on at "night")

I don't lack understanding, I put my faith in The Bible and I do not accept man at his word (or fake videos).

 

[pckts]

If you have ever tried to photograph stars you will know the amount of light
they produce can be flooded out simply by city light reflected in the sky.

So ofcourse in all the photographs on the moon you will not see stars.
It demonstrates a simple lack of understanding, not great conspiracy.

Let's rephrase, You believe that the infinite number of stars were not visible (no atmosphere on moon mind you) because the sun was always "up" through the 6 missions.

 

[posthuman]

When I try to photograph stars I photograph them, when I do .

Nobody went to the moon in order to photograph stars, and they used actual film, in limited supply.

Tonight maybe you should go in the backyard with a white bedsheet, hang that up and point a spotlight at it. Then try to get us a photograph with the bedsheet in focus, properly exposed, also showing visible stars.

I'll look forward to seeing your results tomorrow morning!

 

[GaryA]

You're very selective about which questions you answer. My oh my!

I have to be... Life is a bit crazy and I work too much and too hard.

Why do you think that I am somehow required to answer every question that someone asks?!?

Sure - it would be "nice" if I could / would. But then - I have to work for a living. And, I work crazy long hours ( Sometimes my "work day" ends up being as many as 30 "straight" hours. The other day I worked 12 straight hours on my feet without sitting down even once. ) - stay tired most of the time - and have a lot less social interaction with other folks from church, etc. than I would like to have. Your life may be fun-and-cozy, but mine is not. You may get to do whatever you want to do every hour of the day, but I do not have that fortunate pleasure and blessing...

Not only that, but I get tired of [ useless? ] conversing with close-minded people who only know how to think in the "in-the-matrix" way they have been conditioned to think. It is "refreshing" whenever I see someone on here who has "stepped outside of the matrix", and who knows how to think for themselves...

We're still waiting on an answer as to why Qantas Airlines flies daily from Sydney, Australia to Santiago, Chile...in 12.5 hours. When, according to a flat earth map, it should be a HUGE haul of about 24 hours.

I have not seen any proof that the flight actually exists. Just because someone says it does --- well...

And all those amateur astronomers who observe and photograph orbiting spacecraft, like the space station...which has ZERO aerodynamics yet miraculously floats overhead... { which should give you PAUSE to THINK } and cuts across the sky like clockwork every 90 minutes (or so). How do the 'powers that be' arrange for that, pray tell?

Interesting that you should use the word 'spacecraft'...

I am not sure how they might do it, but I do not doubt that there may be the possibility of achieving it.

 

[BeyondET]

Just don't get any hopes of seeing a star move it won't happen, our solar system takes 240 million years to make one rotation around the center of the Galaxy. no one will ever see a star move in this life time nor the next or the next or the next. lol

 

[pckts]

Nobody went to the moon in order to photograph stars, and they used actual film, in limited supply.

Tonight maybe you should go in the backyard with a white bedsheet, hang that up and point a spotlight at it. Then try to get us a photograph with the bedsheet in focus, properly exposed, also showing visible stars.

I'll look forward to seeing your results tomorrow morning!

If It wouldn't require so much effort, and I could remove our atmosphere for the demonstration, I would totally do that for you.

You are willing to believe these lies on top of lies to explain the flaws in their lies, but not in The Bible. Idk what that says about today's Christians, "seeing"(fake videos and images) is believing.

 

[posthuman]

If It wouldn't require so much effort, and I could remove our atmosphere for the demonstration, I would totally do that for you.

oh, you can't see any stars at night because you live in an atmosphere?

 

[posthuman]

or perhaps because the sun never sets in your world?

yes, sunrise & sunset, that the Lord made -

- you characterize such things as "lies on top of lies" ? ​

 

[BeyondET]

If It wouldn't require so much effort, and I could remove our atmosphere for the demonstration, I would totally do that for you.

You are willing to believe these lies on top of lies to explain the flaws in their lies, but not in The Bible. Idk what that says about today's Christians, "seeing"(fake videos and images) is believing.

lol please don't do that all humans would only live for about 4 mins without oxygen or until your tank of oxygen ran out.

 

[pckts]

lol please don't do that all humans would only live for about 4 mins without oxygen or until your tank of oxygen ran out.

Oh yeah, I guess I got lost in my work. I need an assistant like you to keep me from becoming a mad scientist.

 

[BeyondET]

Oh yeah, I guess I got lost in my work. I need an assistant like you to keep me from becoming a mad scientist.

Indeed that would be a complete disaster. Hahaha..