WE ARE CLEAN

[LaurenTM]

Thank YOU Lauren! At times I wonder "what did I miss!!!??" What did I write that EVER gave anyone the idea in any way shape or form "not" to live a morally sound life? It's a given for me when writing to most people here that we are to live honestly before God and man. Thank you for stating the obvious so often on these threads.

Some days I actually think posting on these threads and being misunderstood can be so tiring. How often does a person have to state and re state the obvious to the same people? Sometimes posting can be a major blessing and other times it's HIGHLY OVER RATED.

It's not you

It's them

the accusations are always the same even though they come from different people

you would think they all had the same source

ps...thanks and we are doing well! very well actually

 

[breno785au]

Thank YOU Lauren! At times I wonder "what did I miss!!!??" What did I write that EVER gave anyone the idea in any way shape or form "not" to live a morally sound life? It's a given for me when writing to most people here that we are to live honestly before God and man. Thank you for stating the obvious so often on these threads.

Some days I actually think posting on these threads and being misunderstood can be so tiring. How often does a person have to state and re state the obvious to the same people? Sometimes posting can be a major blessing and other times it's HIGHLY OVER RATED.

Lol it's funny, even 'living morally sound' has never sat right with me. Atheists try to live morally sound according to their own values, I like Holy lives! Haha.... Of course I see what you are trying to say.

 

[ladylynn]

Lol it's funny, even 'living morally sound' has never sat right with me. Atheists try to live morally sound according to their own values, I like Holy lives! Haha.... Of course I see what you are trying to say.

The reason I wrote morally sound lives and not "holy" is because many who don't agree with taking grace as seriously as many of us do., say we want to sin and do it by grace. That would be a terrible thing for me to be condoning. A serious minded Christian would not do that. A Christian may find him or herself dealing with a sin but not ever justifying it as just fine and dandy. Even many morally sound un believers would not do that without realizing the hypocrisy.

Sometimes Christians who believe differently don't even get that much when they are being judged on certain issues here. Words like hyper grace start flowing. Or name it claim it and accusations of wacky word of faith to the extreme of being just not like anything most of us regulars on CC have never proposed. It goes back to being able to give one another the benefit of the doubt when we are not seeing eye to eye on subjects. We can agree to disagree and still love one another (we must)

Like in the Bible Christians were saying to Paul "shall we sin that grace would abound? And He said heaven forbid! But that was the accusation from those who did not understand the message of grace. A believer who is being led by the Holy Spirit growing in the grace and knowledge of Christ is not looking for excuses to sin.

A Christian going through that Holy Spirit process is not looking for loopholes on how to sin. They are already going through heart changes and transformations that are by the Holy Spirit. They are experiencing those rivers of living water flowing through their lives like Jesus said in John 7:38-39

The last thing on our minds is looking for loopholes on how to get away with sin.

[SUP]38 [/SUP]He who believes in Me [who cleaves to and trusts in and relies on Me] as the Scripture has said, From his innermost being shall flow [continuously] springs and rivers of living water.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]But He was speaking here of the Spirit, Whom those who believed (trusted, had faith) in Him were afterward to receive. For the [Holy] Spirit had not yet been given, because Jesus was not yet glorified (raised to honor).

 

[ladylynn]

Lol it's funny, even 'living morally sound' has never sat right with me. Atheists try to live morally sound according to their own values, I like Holy lives! Haha.... Of course I see what you are trying to say.

The reason I wrote morally sound lives and not "holy" is because some who don't agree with taking grace as seriously as many of us do., say we want to sin and do it by grace. That would be a terrible thing for me to be condoning. A serious minded Christian would not do that. A Christian may find him or herself dealing with a sin but not ever justifying it as just fine and dandy. Even many morally sound un believers would not do that without realizing the hypocrisy.

Sometimes Christians who believe differently don't even get that much when they are being judged on certain issues here. Words like hyper grace start flowing. Or 'name it claim it' and accusations of wacky 'word of faith' to the extreme of being just not like anything most of us regulars on CC have ever proposed. It goes back to being able to give one another the benefit of the doubt when we are not seeing eye to eye on subjects. We can agree to disagree and still love one another (we must)

Like in the Bible Christians were saying to Paul "shall we sin that grace would abound? And He said heaven forbid! But that was the accusation from those who did not understand the message of grace. A believer who is being led by the Holy Spirit growing in the grace and knowledge of Christ is not looking for excuses to sin.

A Christian going through that Holy Spirit process is not looking for loopholes on how to sin. They are already going through heart changes and transformations that are by the Holy Spirit. They are experiencing those rivers of living water flowing through their lives like Jesus said in John 7:38-39

The last thing on our minds is looking for loopholes on how to get away with sin.

[SUP]38 [/SUP]He who believes in Me [who cleaves to and trusts in and relies on Me] as the Scripture has said, From his innermost being shall flow [continuously] springs and rivers of living water.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]But He was speaking here of the Spirit, Whom those who believed (trusted, had faith) in Him were afterward to receive. For the [Holy] Spirit had not yet been given, because Jesus was not yet glorified (raised to honor).

 

[mykeysongs]

The reason I wrote morally sound lives and not "holy" is because many who don't agree with taking grace as seriously as many of us do., say we want to sin and do it by grace. That would be a terrible thing for me to be condoning. A serious minded Christian would not do that. A Christian may find him or herself dealing with a sin but not ever justifying it as just fine and dandy. Even many morally sound un believers would not do that without realizing the hypocrisy.

Sometimes Christians who believe differently don't even get that much when they are being judged on certain issues here. Words like hyper grace start flowing. Or name it claim it and accusations of wacky word of faith to the extreme of being just not like anything most of us regulars on CC have never proposed. It goes back to being able to give one another the benefit of the doubt when we are not seeing eye to eye on subjects. We can agree to disagree and still love one another (we must)

Like in the Bible Christians were saying to Paul "shall we sin that grace would abound? And He said heaven forbid! But that was the accusation from those who did not understand the message of grace. A believer who is being led by the Holy Spirit growing in the grace and knowledge of Christ is not looking for excuses to sin.

A Christian going through that Holy Spirit process is not looking for loopholes on how to sin. They are already going through heart changes and transformations that are by the Holy Spirit. They are experiencing those rivers of living water flowing through their lives like Jesus said in John 7:38-39

The last thing on our minds is looking for loopholes on how to get away with sin.

[SUP]38 [/SUP]He who believes in Me [who cleaves to and trusts in and relies on Me] as the Scripture has said, From his innermost being shall flow [continuously] springs and rivers of living water.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]But He was speaking here of the Spirit, Whom those who believed (trusted, had faith) in Him were afterward to receive. For the [Holy] Spirit had not yet been given, because Jesus was not yet glorified (raised to honor).

The reason I wrote morally sound lives and not "holy" is because some who don't agree with taking grace as seriously as many of us do., say we want to sin and do it by grace. That would be a terrible thing for me to be condoning. A serious minded Christian would not do that. A Christian may find him or herself dealing with a sin but not ever justifying it as just fine and dandy. Even many morally sound un believers would not do that without realizing the hypocrisy.

Sometimes Christians who believe differently don't even get that much when they are being judged on certain issues here. Words like hyper grace start flowing. Or 'name it claim it' and accusations of wacky 'word of faith' to the extreme of being just not like anything most of us regulars on CC have ever proposed. It goes back to being able to give one another the benefit of the doubt when we are not seeing eye to eye on subjects. We can agree to disagree and still love one another (we must)

Like in the Bible Christians were saying to Paul "shall we sin that grace would abound? And He said heaven forbid! But that was the accusation from those who did not understand the message of grace. A believer who is being led by the Holy Spirit growing in the grace and knowledge of Christ is not looking for excuses to sin.

A Christian going through that Holy Spirit process is not looking for loopholes on how to sin. They are already going through heart changes and transformations that are by the Holy Spirit. They are experiencing those rivers of living water flowing through their lives like Jesus said in John 7:38-39

The last thing on our minds is looking for loopholes on how to get away with sin.

[SUP]38 [/SUP]He who believes in Me [who cleaves to and trusts in and relies on Me] as the Scripture has said, From his innermost being shall flow [continuously] springs and rivers of living water.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]But He was speaking here of the Spirit, Whom those who believed (trusted, had faith) in Him were afterward to receive. For the [Holy] Spirit had not yet been given, because Jesus was not yet glorified (raised to honor).

Hi {{{ ladylynn }}}
Such a good post, you posted it twice !!!
So I liked it twice, and re-posted it twice.
And it's twice as nice to see you here. Ditto.

Our Savior Jesus is sooo good, and His grace abounds way beyond the mini-battles that go on within the body of Christ, on many a-day, for many a-reason, in many a-mind.

Knowing that Jesus Prayed for our unity, (John17, etc.) shortly before He Paid for it with His own blood, you might think we would all strive towards that end a bit more fervently, through forgiveness and reconciliation and grace upon grace, rather than what happens sometimes, ... people putting labels on others, and grouping them in neat little 'camps', and ignoring people, and putting them out of the pasture.

But, ..... I guess we're still in the position of needing more of the learning how to 'love one another' you spoke of so well and at different stages of growth, so I guess these kind of things will still happen.

But be of good cheer, Jesus loves you, and His mercies are new every morning. \o/
God bless you, ladylynn.

 

[beta]

Walking with Christ 24/7 does not mean observing a Sabbath day or a feast or by observing the law of Moses - walking with Christ is believing in all that He has already done for us. His life in us is what leads us by the Holy Spirit within us. We walk by the Spirit now. This will result in an exchanged life that manifests Christ in and through us.

Our sins are forgiven because "we believe" in what Christ has already done when we hear the message of the gospel of the grace of Christ.

This is called repentance towards God in believing in His work for us because of His great love and grace towards us.

Acts 10:43 (NASB)
[SUP]43 [/SUP]"Of Him all the prophets bear witness that through His name everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins."


Notice that Peter is saying that the Gentiles that heard the gospel - believed and had their hearts cleansed by faith.

Acts 15:7-9 (NASB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]After there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them, "Brethren, you know that in the early days God made a choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles would hear the word of the gospel and believe.

[SUP]8 [/SUP]"And God, who knows the heart,testified to them giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He also did to us;

[SUP]9 [/SUP]and He made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith.

At least you are right in one thing -
walking with Christ does not mean observing the law of Moses !
But if you make no difference between God and Moses you will end up confused and are not walking with Christ - that should be obvious to a blind man.

 

[beta]

SIN is a CHOICE not some power you cannot control....Gen 4.6-7 & James 1.13-16

You are denying/negating satan's subtle influence on man. It happens without your knowledge and consequently you can do nothing about it, nothing - without the power of God's Holy Spirit given to those willing to obey HIM. YOU/man can not control sin or satan without first becoming obedient to God.Heb 5v8,9.
Disobedience is the stumblingstone that stops people from moving on to maturity and perfection.

 

[beta]

this response to the op is one very big assumption

and I see this consistently whenever people confuse works with fruit and seem to think that works are fruit and they are not!

first of all, no one should assume another believer does not think they need to obey the moral laws of God...ALL humans are born with that knowledge...we know we should not lie, steal, murder etc...so why are some believers taking every opportunity to tell other believers what everyone already knows?



could you point out where it has been revealed that the op continues in sin and believes a false gospel?

where does your accusation that she limits Christ's power come from?

don't you have the assurance of faith in Christ for salvation or do you imagine you can add anything to what Christ has accomplished?

don't you know that works are ordained by God and not our own efforts? not many are actually willing to put it all aside and say "Use me God...which often results in something we did not have in mind."

where do you suppose the desire to do anything for God comes from? your own goodness perhaps?

we can work on our fruit though...Jesus is the husbandman..have you allowed Him to prune you?

You mention a few of the Commandments most people/christians are very familiar with and desire to uphold. Good on them !
Why do they never give the same importance to the first few Commandments - never ! in fact they consider them abolished...in spite of scripture telling us to keep all (10) intact ! They are not part of any other law that was abolished.

 

[ladylynn]

posted by Stephen63

1 John 3:1-2 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]See how great a love the Father has bestowed on us, that we would be called children of God; and such we are. For this reason the world does not know us, because it did not know Him. [SUP]2 [/SUP]Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be. We know that when He appears, we will be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is.

It's stupid, idiotic, in fact, that you guys post absolute crap & call it doctrine. Apparently those that believe hypergrace will swallow anything.





​Stephen63., your last paragraph is not in keeping with the verses you posted before that don't you think? Is it necessary to be so mean and use those kind of words when you are posting to other believers?

 

[ladylynn]

Hi {{{ ladylynn }}}
Such a good post, you posted it twice !!!
So I liked it twice, and re-posted it twice.
And it's twice as nice to see you here. Ditto.

Our Savior Jesus is sooo good, and His grace abounds way beyond the mini-battles that go on within the body of Christ, on many a-day, for many a-reason, in many a-mind.

Knowing that Jesus Prayed for our unity, (John17, etc.) shortly before He Paid for it with His own blood, you might think we would all strive towards that end a bit more fervently, through forgiveness and reconciliation and grace upon grace, rather than what happens sometimes, ... people putting labels on others, and grouping them in neat little 'camps', and ignoring people, and putting them out of the pasture.

But, ..... I guess we're still in the position of needing more of the learning how to 'love one another' you spoke of so well and at different stages of growth, so I guess these kind of things will still happen.

But be of good cheer, Jesus loves you, and His mercies are new every morning. \o/
God bless you, ladylynn.

Hi mykeysongs!! Thank you for such a nice friendly post!! Thank you for spreading good cheer!! God bless you too brother!! lynn

 

[LaurenTM]

You mention a few of the Commandments most people/christians are very familiar with and desire to uphold. Good on them !
Why do they never give the same importance to the first few Commandments - never ! in fact they consider them abolished...in spite of scripture telling us to keep all (10) intact ! They are not part of any other law that was abolished.

you can play at being your own High Priest...but there is only ONE

I trust in HIM for my salvation and everyone here would be wise to do the same

this play acting at keeping the commandments is nonsense

let me see...an entire nation failed at it, but certain individuals think they can manage it

sadly, all that happens is that you remove yourself from the fold and fall off the cliff of your own self righteousness

As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: Romans 3:10

 

[LaurenTM]

EVERYONE:

do not let the Hebrew Roots/ lawkeepers judge you

this is a trend that is catching on with people who, for some reason, find gratification in ceremony and hand washing

sound familiar? it should...the Pharisees did the very same thing!

Christians do not pick and choose which commandments to follow...WE FOLLOW ALL OF THEM!!!

it is actually these law keepers that pick and choose which commands to follow...if you are going to follow the law, then you had better follow ALL of it...as per scripture...but they do not do that

there is NO question we follow the commandments...with a JOYFUL heart and liberty in our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ

He is our MESSIAH and the Savior of all who call upon His Name...God is MERCIFUL and JUST...unlike lawkeepers who want to judge everyone who does not do what they say

so, decide if you will listen to God or to a person who is trying to take His place

 

[beta]

EVERYONE:

do not let the Hebrew Roots/ lawkeepers judge you

this is a trend that is catching on with people who, for some reason, find gratification in ceremony and hand washing

sound familiar? it should...the Pharisees did the very same thing!

Christians do not pick and choose which commandments to follow...WE FOLLOW ALL OF THEM!!!

it is actually these law keepers that pick and choose which commands to follow...if you are going to follow the law, then you had better follow ALL of it...as per scripture...but they do not do that

there is NO question we follow the commandments...with a JOYFUL heart and liberty in our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ

He is our MESSIAH and the Savior of all who call upon His Name...God is MERCIFUL and JUST...unlike lawkeepers who want to judge everyone who does not do what they say

so, decide if you will listen to God or to a person who is trying to take His place

Lady, you don't know what you are talking about and should repent of your false accusations !
I know very little about Hebrew-roots nor am I one.
I talk about keeping the Commandments to love God and neighbour....are you condemning them too ?
If YOU are following ALL the com then it is YOU who is concerned about ceremonies and handwashing...I am not !!! they have no place in MY life.

 

[beta]

you can play at being your own High Priest...but there is only ONE

I trust in HIM for my salvation and everyone here would be wise to do the same

this play acting at keeping the commandments is nonsense

let me see...an entire nation failed at it, but certain individuals think they can manage it

sadly, all that happens is that you remove yourself from the fold and fall off the cliff of your own self righteousness

As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: Romans 3:10

Of course an entire nation (Israel and Judah) failed at keeping God's Commandments because they did not have the Spirit of God. There is no call for US today to follow in their disobedience...is there ?
If you can be bothered read 2Kgs ch 17.

 

[LaurenTM]

Of course an entire nation (Israel and Judah) failed at keeping God's Commandments because they did not have the Spirit of God. There is no call for US today to follow in their disobedience...is there ?
If you can be bothered read 2Kgs ch 17.

they most certainly DID have the Spirit of the Lord with them...and in VISIBLE ways

do you think that seeing the presence of God on the mountain was a small thing? when have you seen such things? never? and yet you say Israel failed because they did not have the Holy Spirit

and you tell others to read the scriptures when you show such ignorance of them as to be almost blind!

what gifts of the Holy Spirit do you manifest? what gifts has God blessed you with?

do have a word of wisdom for the Christians? do you have God given discernment? do you bring a word of knowledge?

and other gifts all available to the Christian

God is not interested in your efforts to be as Holy as He is...when He says come out and separate yourselves, He means get INTO His realm...not the earthly realm of trying to be good boys and girls

For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Hebrews 4:12

If you can be bothered read 2Kgs ch 17

is there a reason you seem to think trying to demean people is showing what a saint you are? do you not know what the scriptures say about scorners and scoffers?

I am redeemed by the blood of the Lamb....I do not try to redeem myself

maybe you should do a word search and study on the meaning of redeemed


understand what Jesus meant by the blind leading the blind...put no confidence in people...trust in the Lord with all your heart and do not lean on your own understanding!

 

[LaurenTM]

Lady, you don't know what you are talking about and should repent of your false accusations !
I know very little about Hebrew-roots nor am I one.
I talk about keeping the Commandments to love God and neighbour....are you condemning them too ?
If YOU are following ALL the com then it is YOU who is concerned about ceremonies and handwashing...I am not !!! they have no place in MY life.

you jumped on my post

yet, nowhere did I mention that I thought YOU were a law keeper or Hebrew Roots

however, something sure made you angry!

you picked apart the op...apparently she is not good enough in your eyes

that, is a sure indication of someone who is adding to salvation

 

[oldethennew]

MATT. 19:16-17-18-19-20-21-22.
And, behold, one came and said unto Him, (JESUS) Good Master, what good thing shall I do,
that I may have eternal life?

And He said unto him, Why callest thou Me good? there is none good but One, God:
but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the Commandments.

He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said,
Thou shalt do no murder,
Thou shalt not commit adultery,
Thou shalt not steal,
Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Honour thy father and thy mother: and,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?

Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor,
and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow Me.

But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

 

[Grace777x70]

Thank God that we are not under the law of Moses anymore and that Jesus is our life now. We don't live by keeping the law of Moses. The law did it's job and brought us to Christ. We live now by Christ living in and through us.

 

[heavenly_bound]

Hi {{{ ladylynn }}}
Such a good post, you posted it twice !!!
So I liked it twice, and re-posted it twice.
And it's twice as nice to see you here. Ditto.

Our Savior Jesus is sooo good, and His grace abounds way beyond the mini-battles that go on within the body of Christ, on many a-day, for many a-reason, in many a-mind.

Knowing that Jesus Prayed for our unity, (John17, etc.) shortly before He Paid for it with His own blood, you might think we would all strive towards that end a bit more fervently, through forgiveness and reconciliation and grace upon grace, rather than what happens sometimes, ... people putting labels on others, and grouping them in neat little 'camps', and ignoring people, and putting them out of the pasture.

But, ..... I guess we're still in the position of needing more of the learning how to 'love one another' you spoke of so well and at different stages of growth, so I guess these kind of things will still happen.

But be of good cheer, Jesus loves you, and His mercies are new every morning. \o/
God bless you, ladylynn.

great post bro!

 

[Stephen63]

posted by Stephen63

1 John 3:1-2 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]See how great a love the Father has bestowed on us, that we would be called children of God; and such we are. For this reason the world does not know us, because it did not know Him. [SUP]2 [/SUP]Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be. We know that when He appears, we will be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is.

It's stupid, idiotic, in fact, that you guys post absolute crap & call it doctrine. Apparently those that believe hypergrace will swallow anything.





​Stephen63., your last paragraph is not in keeping with the verses you posted before that don't you think? Is it necessary to be so mean and use those kind of words when you are posting to other believers?

Well... it does kinda look bad after you cut out the important context..... you even cut off the part of the post so that it couldn't be traced back. But that's alright, I found it, and since you want to bring it back up, we will.

Originally Posted by heavenly_bound

Christ was not enthroned as God when He ascended into heaven. He was enthroned as man! By virtue of His union with humanity, the God Man was enthroned as man! in other words, Man was included in the Godhead by virtue of Christ enthronement! the very reason why we are sited in heavenly places!! There is a man in the Godhead
So we DO NOT follow Christ! We are ONE with Him, in an inseparable union; a union without mixture!!

Originally Posted by Gr8grace

You really don't understand what Christ actually did? What God actually did for us? The hypo-static union?

He is the God-Man on His throne. You bet He is 100% glorified human flesh and 100% deity in Heaven. He is mankind's High Priest.........Only someone who shares in humanity can be in that position.

And He will be 100% true humanity(glorified) and 100% Deity...............forever.

You people, as usual, don't know what you're talking about. Hypostatic union was a teaching from the 4th century. Secondly, it only talked about this union while Jesus was living before the cross. Thirdly this a doctrine of the RCC.
Since you don't read your Bible, let me post it for you:
1 Corinthians 15:40-53 (NASB)
[SUP]40 [/SUP]There are also heavenly bodies and earthly bodies, but the glory of the heavenly is one, and the glory of the earthly is another. [SUP]41 [/SUP]There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for star differs from star in glory. [SUP]42 [/SUP]So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown a perishable body, it is raised an imperishable body; [SUP]43 [/SUP]it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; [SUP]44 [/SUP]it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. [SUP]45 [/SUP]So also it is written, "The first MAN, Adam, BECAME a living soul." The last Adam became a life-giving spirit. [SUP]46 [/SUP]However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural; then the spiritual. [SUP]47 [/SUP]The first man is from the earth, earthy; the second man is from heaven. [SUP]48 [/SUP]As is the earthy, so also are those who are earthy; and as is the heavenly, so also are those who are heavenly. [SUP]49 [/SUP]Just as we have borne the image of the earthy, we will also bear the image of the heavenly. [SUP]50 [/SUP]Now I say this, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. [SUP]51 [/SUP]Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, [SUP]52 [/SUP]in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. [SUP]53 [/SUP]For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality.

Will you hypergracers pleeeeeze read your bibles?

1 John 3:1-2 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]See how great a love the Father has bestowed on us, that we would be called children of God; and such we are. For this reason the world does not know us, because it did not know Him. [SUP]2 [/SUP]Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be. We know that when He appears, we will be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is.

It's stupid, idiotic, in fact, that you guys post absolute crap & call it doctrine. Apparently those that believe hypergrace will swallow anything.

Now that we have all the context where it belongs, ladylynn do you believe in the teaching of hypostatic union? Please, explain it to me.