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Sister emjcares said:
If people don't want to hear it, hey, don't listen, or move on, just skip the post or thread, it won't end the world, and you may get it together later. But every time I hear grown christians use the term 'my ignore list' I cringe, it's just so third-grade childish.
Hold on to your Bonnett, I actually agree with you. I do not like to use the Ignore List either, and that is why I usually void out all of the entries from mine every now and again. I do not think it should be necessary either.....however, this the Internet. Not real life. Not our family church congregation where folks can join together to work out differences. This cyber world we live in here on CC is a very strange and new world where all sorts of people can mingle with blood washed believers under any disguise they choose to don.
I wish it were possible to resolve disputations in a civil, mature, and respectful manner. And, sometimes that happens here. But, all too often, this simply is not possible. Some people do not wish to have the disputation resolved, for the creation of disputations is exactly why they are here. This is Truth. It takes AT LEAST two willing believers to resolve a disputation.
Now, I strive to not put people on my Ignore List, and strive to simply ignore any comment they post by scrolling past their comments. However, sometimes the best way to not only resolve a disputation, but to achieve personal peace of mind is to place someone on the Ignore List.
See, the Ignore List isn't only about resolving disputations...........it's main function (in my opinion/for me) is to restore spiritual well being. To throw off the spirit of discontent and disputation, and regain the spirit of Christian love and fellowship. Sometimes the only way to do this is to place the offending party on Ignore. As well, your comment assumes that all the parties to a disputation are Christians. Here on CC, that is not always the case. In my opinion, there are more than a few here who are anything but Christian, regardless of what they profess. There are a plethora of Scripture to explain this and to support this assertion. Jesus Himself instructed us that we would know them by their fruit/works.
As hard as it may be for some to believe, there are people who come to Christian Web Sites pretending to be whatever they wish to pretend to be, and their sole purpose for being here is to create dissention, disputations, and discontent among the believers. They revel in doing this, and some of them are quite adept at it. So, such as these will not fit into your concept of how to resolve disputations between believers.
We all have our limitations, and I am painfully aware of mine, and the other thing the Ignore List serves to do is to remove the desire for "blood sport combat" that I sometimes have. The Old Soldier in me never tires of such, and I fight him daily, even hourly, Thread by Thread, post by post if necessary. My struggle to defeat him is greatly helped by the Ignore List, so, for me, it isn't about being immature, or childish, it's about spiritual well being.
God bless............love ya
If people don't want to hear it, hey, don't listen, or move on, just skip the post or thread, it won't end the world, and you may get it together later. But every time I hear grown christians use the term 'my ignore list' I cringe, it's just so third-grade childish.
Hold on to your Bonnett, I actually agree with you. I do not like to use the Ignore List either, and that is why I usually void out all of the entries from mine every now and again. I do not think it should be necessary either.....however, this the Internet. Not real life. Not our family church congregation where folks can join together to work out differences. This cyber world we live in here on CC is a very strange and new world where all sorts of people can mingle with blood washed believers under any disguise they choose to don.
I wish it were possible to resolve disputations in a civil, mature, and respectful manner. And, sometimes that happens here. But, all too often, this simply is not possible. Some people do not wish to have the disputation resolved, for the creation of disputations is exactly why they are here. This is Truth. It takes AT LEAST two willing believers to resolve a disputation.
Now, I strive to not put people on my Ignore List, and strive to simply ignore any comment they post by scrolling past their comments. However, sometimes the best way to not only resolve a disputation, but to achieve personal peace of mind is to place someone on the Ignore List.
See, the Ignore List isn't only about resolving disputations...........it's main function (in my opinion/for me) is to restore spiritual well being. To throw off the spirit of discontent and disputation, and regain the spirit of Christian love and fellowship. Sometimes the only way to do this is to place the offending party on Ignore. As well, your comment assumes that all the parties to a disputation are Christians. Here on CC, that is not always the case. In my opinion, there are more than a few here who are anything but Christian, regardless of what they profess. There are a plethora of Scripture to explain this and to support this assertion. Jesus Himself instructed us that we would know them by their fruit/works.
As hard as it may be for some to believe, there are people who come to Christian Web Sites pretending to be whatever they wish to pretend to be, and their sole purpose for being here is to create dissention, disputations, and discontent among the believers. They revel in doing this, and some of them are quite adept at it. So, such as these will not fit into your concept of how to resolve disputations between believers.
We all have our limitations, and I am painfully aware of mine, and the other thing the Ignore List serves to do is to remove the desire for "blood sport combat" that I sometimes have. The Old Soldier in me never tires of such, and I fight him daily, even hourly, Thread by Thread, post by post if necessary. My struggle to defeat him is greatly helped by the Ignore List, so, for me, it isn't about being immature, or childish, it's about spiritual well being.
God bless............love ya
Just made chocolate cookies while listening and singing along to worship songs. It was an amazing experience I don't know about you but some worship songs move me to tears. Have cried about 3 times this morning. Helps let things out I suppose.
I don't know about you but some worship songs move me to tears. Have cried about 3 times this morning. Helps let things out I suppose.
It Is Well With My Soul.............whatever the actual Title is........my goodness, I can never hear the entire song without shedding more than a few tears, and am not ashamed to do so or say so............
Holy Spirit inspired weeping is a soul cleansing experience in my opinion.
God bless ya, and don't eat ALL of those cookies yourself!
I might be the be the odd one here but I usually get what you're saying because you're straight forward. I don't know if it's the 17 years I've spent married to someone who is like that, but I don't see you saying anything wrong. I haven't read all of your posts because well I spend to much time here already.
I don't find you offensive at all. Now please everyone don't jump down my throat. We aren't all going to agree on everything. I haven't spoken with to many here who have rubbed me the wrong way. It's so easy to misinterpret what someone is saying virtually because you can't hear the tone of their voice or see their mannerisms. If everyone would take a step back and re read something or ask the person what or how they meant somethings there would be a lot less drama.
About the ignore list, not everyone agrees with it and some do agree with it and put people on ignore. Oh well, so do it or don't do it.
Im not posting this to cause drama or have people pick sides. I don't do stuff like that. I save that crap for the middle school kid's. If you ever met me in person you'd understand I'm a chill person. I can pretty easily go into my own zone and not let stuff get to me. But that's me and I don't expect anyone else to be like me. We are all little Suzy snowflakes riding on this little blip of earth dealing with our own stuff.
If my post made some angry I'm sorry that wasn't my intent.
Yah, except, steeped in sarcasm. Not the fun kind, the smarmy kind.
Quote, 'I'm a christian, but unfortunately I'm also a human being'.
You said that^ as a defense for making an 'ignore list' rather than discuss with sisters and brothers, and as if, by your implication, those of us who find ignore lists to be childish are somehow not human beings.
And gosh, you said you weren't so mature and well-adjusted.
Nonsense.
Quote, 'I'm a christian, but unfortunately I'm also a human being'.
You said that^ as a defense for making an 'ignore list' rather than discuss with sisters and brothers, and as if, by your implication, those of us who find ignore lists to be childish are somehow not human beings.
And gosh, you said you weren't so mature and well-adjusted.
Nonsense.
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Yah, except, steeped in sarcasm. Not the fun kind, the smarmy kind.
Quote, 'I'm a christian, but unfortunately I'm also a human being'.
You said that^ as a defense for making an 'ignore list' rather than discuss with sisters and brothers, and as if, by your implication, those of us who find ignore lists to be childish are somehow not human beings.
And gosh, you said you weren't so mature and well-adjusted.
Nonsense.
Quote, 'I'm a christian, but unfortunately I'm also a human being'.
You said that^ as a defense for making an 'ignore list' rather than discuss with sisters and brothers, and as if, by your implication, those of us who find ignore lists to be childish are somehow not human beings.
And gosh, you said you weren't so mature and well-adjusted.
Nonsense.
Let me define the statement "unfortunately I'm also a human being":
Unfortunately, I am a flawed, disgusting, smelly, self-centered, self-appreciating, shallow, jealous, hurtful little animal.
I got lazy and didn't want to type all that out. My bad.
Yah, except, steeped in sarcasm. Not the fun kind, the smarmy kind.
Quote, 'I'm a christian, but unfortunately I'm also a human being'.
You said that^ as a defense for making an 'ignore list' rather than discuss with sisters and brothers, and as if, by your implication, those of us who find ignore lists to be childish are somehow not human beings.
And gosh, you said you weren't so mature and well-adjusted.
Nonsense.
Quote, 'I'm a christian, but unfortunately I'm also a human being'.
You said that^ as a defense for making an 'ignore list' rather than discuss with sisters and brothers, and as if, by your implication, those of us who find ignore lists to be childish are somehow not human beings.
And gosh, you said you weren't so mature and well-adjusted.
Nonsense.
I read his first post to you in an entirely different way. I could be wrong but I don't think he was being sarcastic.
I do understand what you're saying about ignore lists. As I said, I don't put people on ignore, because I'm nosy. Maybe I need to have other reasons, maybe. But if it helps someone to get spiritually centered again and once they are that way they take everyone off of it, I get that too.
Now if the person goes around and types, well I have this one on ignore and that one and blah blah, yep that's ignorant. But if they just need a break from that person, I get it.
I understood it for how you meant it in that we are all flawed as human beings, that is actually why we need Jesus I did not in any way take it to mean that you thought yourself better or above others in any way...
I did not in any way take it to mean that you thought yourself better or above others in any way...
Sometimes people come to this site after they have been banned, and they
come after a person with a vengeance. That has actually happened to me.
I don't know about you, but I am not interested in digesting what they have
to regurgitate. If others are interested in reading the vituperative posts, they
are certainly free to. I am not interested in seeing them, accidentally stumbling
upon them, inviting them into my home, my workplace, or my head space. Nor
is it for another to determine if I have done enough to mend fences with the
other person. It is one thing if I have invited the feedback, but quite another
to have it forced on me against my will. It just adds to the abuse.
come after a person with a vengeance. That has actually happened to me.
I don't know about you, but I am not interested in digesting what they have
to regurgitate. If others are interested in reading the vituperative posts, they
are certainly free to. I am not interested in seeing them, accidentally stumbling
upon them, inviting them into my home, my workplace, or my head space. Nor
is it for another to determine if I have done enough to mend fences with the
other person. It is one thing if I have invited the feedback, but quite another
to have it forced on me against my will. It just adds to the abuse.
Biblically speaking, boundaries are related to self-control. The Bible commands us to control ourselves, whereas our human nature desires to control others (Titus 2:12). If left unchecked, our natural desires run roughshod over others. Personal boundaries help to limit our selfish inclination to control or manipulate others. Likewise, boundaries protect us from those who have no self-control and who wish to control us. A person with clear, healthy boundaries communicates to others what is and is not permissible, saying, in effect, “This is my jurisdiction, and you have no right to interfere.”
Boundaries can be used in healthy ways and sinful ways. The way to know which boundaries are godly is to examine the motive. Are you protecting yourself or someone weaker from potential harm, either emotional or physical? If so, then you are setting healthy and needful boundaries. However, if you are maintaining distance simply because you desire to exclude someone, that is sinful. Boundaries that maintain cliques or prohibit ministry opportunities are unhelpful.
Boundaries are about taking responsibility for our own lives. God gives us freedom to choose to live within His boundaries or outside of them, and to live outside of God’s boundaries means to accept the consequences. Living inside God’s boundaries brings blessing, and living outside of them brings destruction and death (Romans 6:23). Adam and Eve had one boundary in the Garden of Eden: abstain from the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. The Lord gave them freedom to remain within His bounds, but they chose to overstep the boundary and sin. Their response to God’s revelation of their sin was to blame someone else rather than take responsibility for their lack of self-control. Eve blamed Satan, and Adam blamed Eve (Genesis 3:12-13). Boundaries limit destructive behaviors, and that is why both God and society have laws and consequences for those who overstep those laws (Romans 13:1-4). What are boundaries, and are they biblical?
Boundaries can be used in healthy ways and sinful ways. The way to know which boundaries are godly is to examine the motive. Are you protecting yourself or someone weaker from potential harm, either emotional or physical? If so, then you are setting healthy and needful boundaries. However, if you are maintaining distance simply because you desire to exclude someone, that is sinful. Boundaries that maintain cliques or prohibit ministry opportunities are unhelpful.
Boundaries are about taking responsibility for our own lives. God gives us freedom to choose to live within His boundaries or outside of them, and to live outside of God’s boundaries means to accept the consequences. Living inside God’s boundaries brings blessing, and living outside of them brings destruction and death (Romans 6:23). Adam and Eve had one boundary in the Garden of Eden: abstain from the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. The Lord gave them freedom to remain within His bounds, but they chose to overstep the boundary and sin. Their response to God’s revelation of their sin was to blame someone else rather than take responsibility for their lack of self-control. Eve blamed Satan, and Adam blamed Eve (Genesis 3:12-13). Boundaries limit destructive behaviors, and that is why both God and society have laws and consequences for those who overstep those laws (Romans 13:1-4). What are boundaries, and are they biblical?
