God LIED!

[jb]

Rightly divide the word of truth. The body of Christ has never been commanded by Scripture to "endure to the end" to be saved. Not in Paul's writings to the body of Christ.

LOL! You do have a sense of humour!

 

[God4me]

That's doctrine for the Hebrews going through the tribulation. If they fail to endure to the end like Matthew 24:13 and sell out to the anti-christ, taking the mark of the beast, there is no more repentance for them, no turning back.

Hebrews doesn't mention they go through the tribulation, You are just making things up, Because you know the truth proves you wrong.

 

[God4me]

Jesus can't?

So I'm more powerful than Jesus, our Creator? Hmmm, interesting.

You are saying that we are all robots, and God will do whatever He wants in us, without our wanting Him to.

 

[God4me]

Well, you'd better hope you don't have a sinful thought and then get hit by a bus before you can repent.

Is there anything in the Bible that you actually believe??. A sinful thought will come to everyone, The key is to reject those thoughts, A thought isn't a sin, unless it's acted on.
Why don't you just admit that you only teach half of the Bible, and by doing that, you deceive people.

 

[God4me]

[1]Who said God didn't deliver Paul?? God did. When He said that His grace was sufficient and His power is made perfect in weakness.

[2]It wasn't a sickness that Paul had. According to you, it doesn't matter. You said God wants us all in perfect health. Oh, and that doesn't explain Timothy's stomach sickness.

[3] If Paul, or anyone doesn't take authority over adverse circumstances, Then God can't, as He has given us the power and authority to bind and loose. I see, So we have the power to prevent God from doing something. How blasphemous. And if you possess such authority, why aren't you going into hospitals and cancer centers, using that authority and getting those people healed?

[4Jesus told Paul that His grace is all he needed to get the victory. So, it's all Paul's fault? You sound like a televangelist who tells sick people God didn't heal them because they just didn't have enough faith.

[5]Even if Paul didn't get the victory, it doesn't change God's word. And God said we are more than conquerors through God, Always triumph through Jesus and have the victory through faith, to overcome the problems of the world. Again, I guess Paul was just lacking in the faith department, huh? Good thing you've come along to show us our (and Paul's) error.

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Grace is God's power to set us free. And Jesus told Paul that His supernatural power will deliver him.
Just like Jesus has paid the price to set everyone free.

The Bible tells us that Paul's thorn was a buffeting of Satan, And The devil will attack every Christian, But it's what we do about those attacks.

It wasn't God who attacked Paul, As you said. We do not have authority over God, But we do over the devil, sicknesses or any adverse circumstances. But remember, Even Jesus couldn't heal those who didn't believe, and look how much authority He had.

I have been to hospitals and God has used me to deliver people from cancer.

You are going by peoples Experiences, rather than what the Bible says.
Does peoples experiences change God's word??, NO..NO.., so why do you think it does?.

 

[God4me]

Says the guy who makes Scripture look like a Twizzler.

And your the one who doesn't know the Bible.

 

[John146]

Is there anything in the Bible that you actually believe??. A sinful thought will come to everyone, The key is to reject those thoughts, A thought isn't a sin, unless it's acted on.
Why don't you just admit that you only teach half of the Bible, and by doing that, you deceive people.

Could you give some Scripture to back this statement up? Did Jesus have sinful thoughts but never acted upon them? Was He not tempted in every way man is tempted and yet without sin? If I have the thought, "man, I sure would like to kill that person," but don't act upon it, isn't that still sin?

Scripture tells us that even if we look at a woman with lust, we have committed adultery with her in our mind.

 

[God4me]

Could you give some Scripture to back this statement up? Did Jesus have sinful thoughts but never acted upon them? Was He not tempted in every way man is tempted and yet without sin? If I have the thought, "man, I sure would like to kill that person," but don't act upon it, isn't that still sin?

Scripture tells us that even if we look at a woman with lust, we have committed adultery with her in our mind.

Heb 2: 18. Heb 4: 15 says Jesus was tempted in everything that we are tempted with, And just like Jesus rejected the temptation, So can we. See 2 Cor 10: 4--5. Jesus was tempted with sin, and overcame it, So can we overcome the temptations to sin.

 

[John146]

Heb 2: 18. Heb 4: 15 says Jesus was tempted in everything that we are tempted with, And just like Jesus rejected the temptation, So can we. See 2 Cor 10: 4--5. Jesus was tempted with sin, and overcame it, So can we overcome the temptations to sin.

Scripture tells us that even if we look at a woman with lust, we have committed adultery with her in our mind.

Yes or No

I would agree, we can resist the temptation, but thinking sinful thoughts is more than mere temptation. Sin is not only actions, but thoughts.

 

[Budman]

A thought isn't a sin, unless it's acted on.

Ridiculous. Psalm 10:4 says it is wicked to even think there is no God. It is sinful to lust after a woman in your thoughts. (Matthew 5:28). You don't have to commit the act to be guilty of adultery in God's eyes. The Bible says people devise evil in the thoughts. (Matthew 9:4, Ezekiel 38:10, Genesis 6:5, Matthew 15:19, Psalm 56:5, Jeremiah 4:14)

The Bible clearly teaches our thoughts can be sinful without acting on them.

Seriously, do you even read the Bible?

 

[Budman]

It wasn't God who attacked Paul, As you said. We do not have authority over God, But we do over the devil, sicknesses or any adverse circumstances.

Then, you should never have another sick day in your life - correct?

I have been to hospitals and God has used me to deliver people from cancer.

Then why are you spending so much time here? Why aren't you spending all of it healing? Oh, and do you have any documented proof that you healed anyone from cancer, other than you saying so?

You sound just like Benny Hinn. A lot of smoke and mirrors.

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

Is there anything in the Bible that you actually believe??. A sinful thought will come to everyone, The key is to reject those thoughts, A thought isn't a sin, unless it's acted on.
Why don't you just admit that you only teach half of the Bible, and by doing that, you deceive people.

No sir. That's not what our Lord said. To look and think with lust is to already have committed adultery. To have anger in our heart is to already have committed murder. God desires truth in the inward parts. By not seeing the evil in us and to not see the enmity to the spirit in us and to insist the inside of our cup can be filthy but the outside being clean is what matters - that is not what our Lord said. We have to agree with Him or we are only fooling ourselves. How can two people walk together if they don't agree?

 

[Bookends]

God made the covenant with His people. We can't break it, because we didn't even make it!

That is where you are wrong, God makes the covenant, but men do break it. Haven't you read the Old testament? Deut. 28 and Leviticus 26:

It is very obvious to me that God is not obligated to keep His agreement in His covenant if man breaks it.

9 ‘For I will look on you favorably and make you fruitful, multiply you and confirm My covenant with you.

14 ‘But if you do not obey Me, and do not observe all these commandments,
15 and if you despise My statutes, or if your soul abhors My judgments, so that you do not perform all My commandments, but break My covenant,
16 I also will do this to you:
I will even appoint terror over you, wasting disease and fever which shall consume the eyes and cause sorrow of heart.
And you shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it.

 

[slave]

The Bible says "nothing in all creation" can snatch us from His hand.

Are you part of that creation? Are we created beings?

If so, then not even we ourselves can do it.

As the Bible says, we can be unfaithful, but God will remain faithful. Salvation is a gift that cannot be returned.

What this states is living a falsehood doctrine (and , yes, truth matters)...God loves us in a genuine relationship where He has instilled in us a Christ to become in us a Christlike individual unfettered as He is Master of our union, which due to love involves our choices and obedience in us restored to Himself. The restoring Jesus and God had to do, and in terms of Salvation those statements are true, but to love is a two-party activity to be real. He is not overruling us in Him loving Himself, as a puppet playing pretend Christlike Child. Don't confuse Salvation with an ongoing healthy love relationship; And don't underestimate the power of the transformation God does in an individual who has become Christ-like. We must believe, and receive His free gift.

 

[B1Davanda]

That is where you are wrong, God makes the covenant, but men do break it. Haven't you read the Old testament? Deut. 28 and Leviticus 26:

It is very obvious to me that God is not obligated to keep His agreement in His covenant if man breaks it.

9 ‘For I will look on you favorably and make you fruitful, multiply you and confirm My covenant with you.

14 ‘But if you do not obey Me, and do not observe all these commandments,
15 and if you despise My statutes, or if your soul abhors My judgments, so that you do not perform all My commandments, but break My covenant,
16 I also will do this to you:
I will even appoint terror over you, wasting disease and fever which shall consume the eyes and cause sorrow of heart.
And you shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it.

You seem stuck in the old covenant.

Jesus is the mediator of a new and better covenant.

So much better...the new covenant is one that God made with Himself.

It's an eternal covenant, not dependent on man's ability to keep or break it.

Jesus took our sins upon Himself and the ordinances that were against us,
and blotted them out forever...nailing them to the cross.

We now have a new and living way, and we all can approach the throne of grace, because Jesus paid it all. This is all God's doing...how great and wonderful is our God and Saviour!

 

[God4me]

Scripture tells us that even if we look at a woman with lust, we have committed adultery with her in our mind.

Yes or No

I would agree, we can resist the temptation, but thinking sinful thoughts is more than mere temptation. Sin is not only actions, but thoughts.

True Born again Christians don't look at a woman with lust.
The devil can put sinful thoughts in our minds, Bet we don't have to dwell on them, we should reject them straight away.

 

[God4me]

Ridiculous. Psalm 10:4 says it is wicked to even think there is no God. It is sinful to lust after a woman in your thoughts. (Matthew 5:28). You don't have to commit the act to be guilty of adultery in God's eyes. The Bible says people devise evil in the thoughts. (Matthew 9:4, Ezekiel 38:10, Genesis 6:5, Matthew 15:19, Psalm 56:5, Jeremiah 4:14)

The Bible clearly teaches our thoughts can be sinful without acting on them.

Seriously, do you even read the Bible?

True Born again Christians don't look at a woman with lust.
The devil can put sinful thoughts in our minds, Bet we don't have to dwell on them, we should reject them straight away

 

[God4me]

Then, you should never have another sick day in your life - correct?



Then why are you spending so much time here? Why aren't you spending all of it healing? Oh, and do you have any documented proof that you healed anyone from cancer, other than you saying so?

You sound just like Benny Hinn. A lot of smoke and mirrors.

Of cause Christians who know the Bible, have faith and are living right, should never be sick, But that doesn't mean the devil wont try to put sickness on us, and if he does, we can take authority over any attack of sickness and walk in divine health, [which is God's best for us], But thank God, if we a Christian does get sick, they can have hands laid on them and be healed.


I do spend time Ministering healing to the sick.

 

[God4me]

No sir. That's not what our Lord said. To look and think with lust is to already have committed adultery. To have anger in our heart is to already have committed murder. God desires truth in the inward parts. By not seeing the evil in us and to not see the enmity to the spirit in us and to insist the inside of our cup can be filthy but the outside being clean is what matters - that is not what our Lord said. We have to agree with Him or we are only fooling ourselves. How can two people walk together if they don't agree?

True Born again Christians don't look at a woman with lust.
The devil can put sinful thoughts in our minds, Bet we don't have to dwell on them, we should reject them straight away.
Christians who live in the Spirit and walk in the Agape love of God, will never get angry.

 

[Grace777x70]

Any Christian can walk according to the flesh and can do any of the deeds of the flesh that Galatians 5:19-21 that talks about. Those that do such things will not be inheriting on this earth the things of the kingdom of God.

There is a massive difference between baby Christians and mature sons that partake in the Father's inheritance that is available to them. Both are still children of their Father though.