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Yes it is a voew of scripture but is that veiw correct?
My issue is the way calvinism sets up God as All Powerful and takes away Mans ability to choose.
I agree that God is all powerful and that His ways are much higher than mans but i believe man can still choose to reject or accept the gift of salvation.
"Unconditional election" God has chosen from eternity to extend mercy to those he has chosen and to withhold mercy from those not chosen. Those chosen receive salvation through Christ alone. Those not chosen receive the just wrath that is warranted for their sins against God.
I believe the Bible supports - God has chosen from eternity to extend mercy to ALL of mankind. Those that accept the free gift receive salvation through Christ alone. Those that don't accept the gift receive the just wrath that is warranted for their sins against God.
One allows man to accept and choose the other takes that choice away.
Perseverance of God with the saints with the set apart or elected, - asserts that since God is sovereign and his will cannot be frustrated by humans or anything else, those whom God has called into communion with himself will continue in faith until the end.
I believe in God's perseverance with mankind, but because He is sovereign doesn't mean He forces the saved to stay saved and will not let them reject Him.
My issue is the way calvinism sets up God as All Powerful and takes away Mans ability to choose.
I agree that God is all powerful and that His ways are much higher than mans but i believe man can still choose to reject or accept the gift of salvation.
"Unconditional election" God has chosen from eternity to extend mercy to those he has chosen and to withhold mercy from those not chosen. Those chosen receive salvation through Christ alone. Those not chosen receive the just wrath that is warranted for their sins against God.
I believe the Bible supports - God has chosen from eternity to extend mercy to ALL of mankind. Those that accept the free gift receive salvation through Christ alone. Those that don't accept the gift receive the just wrath that is warranted for their sins against God.
One allows man to accept and choose the other takes that choice away.
Perseverance of God with the saints with the set apart or elected, - asserts that since God is sovereign and his will cannot be frustrated by humans or anything else, those whom God has called into communion with himself will continue in faith until the end.
I believe in God's perseverance with mankind, but because He is sovereign doesn't mean He forces the saved to stay saved and will not let them reject Him.
What you're doing here is much like me trying to argue with a three year old on if there is a Santa. It can't be done until the child is old enough to distinguish reality from fantasy.
That's why I'm not arguing specifics with you. Not that I can't, but you're still determined you can create your own god to fit your desires. That's also why most people here are leaning way back from this argument. Where can we go when Santa Claus is still assumed?