JUST A POINT TO PONDER...Babylon spreads a false religion...John 4 teaches that God must be worshipped in spirit and in truth...the U.S. dia Democracy spreads worship God as you please.............
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JUST A POINT TO PONDER...Babylon spreads a false religion...John 4 teaches that God must be worshipped in spirit and in truth...the U.S. dia Democracy spreads worship God as you please.............
The worshipers of Lucifer are those who follow Islam. They think he's God but Satan is really Allah. This is known from the Satanic symbols which were present in all 7 of the Beast Kingdoms and now present in Islam. Islam follows the Sun and Moon, it is their symbol (Crescent and Star). This same symbol was present in each of the previous 6 Beast Kingdoms.
What does God say about following the Sun and Moon? This warning goes back to Moses and the Egyptians (who of course were the first Beast and the fathers of those who follow Islam today).
Deuteronomy 4:19
And take heed, lest you lift your eyes to heaven, and when you see the sun, the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, you feel driven to worship them and serve them, which the Lord your God has given to all the peoples under the whole heaven as a heritage.
Acts 7:43
You also took up the tabernacle of Moloch, And the star of your god Remphan, Images which you made to worship; And I will carry you away beyond Babylon.’
At Mecca, the holiest sight of Islam and the birthplace of Muhammad sits the Temple to Allah which all Muslims must face wherever they are in the world. They are to bow down and pray 5 times a day according to the position of the sun. In the corner of the Temple to Allah is the Kaaba Stone, a black meteor. This Kaaba Stone, a black cornerstone, is thought to have been the same "Image which fell from Zeus" worshiped by those of the Roman Empire who worshiped Diana.
Acts 19:35
And when the city clerk had quieted the crowd, he said: “Men of Ephesus, what man is there who does not know that the city of the Ephesians is temple guardian of the great goddess Diana, and of the image which fell down from Zeus?
Acts 19:27
So not only is this trade of ours in danger of falling into disrepute, but also the temple of the great goddess Diana may be despised and her magnificence destroyed, whom all Asia and the world worship.”
Diana was called, "GREAT." They would chant, "GREAT IS DIANA."
Acts 19:28
Now when they heard this, they were full of wrath and cried out, saying, “Great is Diana of the Ephesians!”
What do Muslims chant?
Allahu Akbar = ALLAH IS GREAT!!
Again, they worship the Kaaba Stone, an image from the sky. They worship based on the position of the sun. Their symbol is the Moon and Star. The Kaaba is a Black Cornerstone. So, the Muslims have a black stone. Black is Evil. Who is our Cornerstone? What color is ours?
Revelation 2:17
“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes I will give some of the hidden manna to eat. And I will give him a white stone, and on the stone a new name written which no one knows except him who receives it.”’
You see, we are given a white stone, they have a black stone. If you take the Eastern Roman Empire, which is the Byzantine Empire and all the other beast kingdoms, from Egypt, to Assyria, to Babylon, the Medo-Persia, to Greece, to Rome the Eastern part and lastly to the Ottoman Empire they are all of the same ilk. Today, they all serve Islam. Hitler was even allied with the Ottomans.
It is Islam that beheads and kills Jews and Christians. No other religion does this. We are told that they have power over 1/4 of the earth at the 4th seal and indeed, Islam makes up 1/4 of the world.
Now consider in 2010 the Arabs built the world's largest clock tower in Mecca and it has the inscription at the top which reads in Arabic, "Allahu Akbar," "Allah is Greatest!!" This is a finger pointed straight at God and a slap in his face. This clock tower reminds me of the Tower of Babel.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]For her sins have reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.
The father of ISLAM is Ishmael, the son of the slave (Bond servant) who was also an Egyptian. They have a false prophet just we are told they do.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image.
What other major religion today has a false prophet? Who kills God's People? The case of Islam to be Mystery Babylon, with it's Great City Mecca located in the Saudi Wilderness, right off the Red Sea, the very Sea where Moses crossed and near where the Golden Calf was first worshiped just up the coast is beyond compelling. It is an absolute certainty.
ISLAM IS MYSTERY BABYLON.
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Almost forgot, the color "Green" represents Paradise in Islam.
Paradise to receive their 72 virgins is where Jihadists are told they will go if they die in the service of Allah. Suicide bombers actually believe this. So when you read below, know that it is not a "PALE" horse, it is a green horse. The word is "Chloros" which means green everywhere else in the Bible. So, we have a Green Horse here.
Again, Muslims think they go to Paradise when they are killed in a terrorist attack. But the below tells us they are wrong, Paradise does not follow death for them, Hades does.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]When He opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature saying, “Come and see.” [SUP]8 [/SUP]So I looked, and behold, a pale horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him. And power was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword, with hunger, with death, and by the beasts of the earth.
Paradise to receive their 72 virgins is where Jihadists are told they will go if they die in the service of Allah. Suicide bombers actually believe this. So when you read below, know that it is not a "PALE" horse, it is a green horse. The word is "Chloros" which means green everywhere else in the Bible. So, we have a Green Horse here.
Again, Muslims think they go to Paradise when they are killed in a terrorist attack. But the below tells us they are wrong, Paradise does not follow death for them, Hades does.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]When He opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature saying, “Come and see.” [SUP]8 [/SUP]So I looked, and behold, a pale horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him. And power was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword, with hunger, with death, and by the beasts of the earth.
Worshipers of Lucifer are those who believe Lucifer is their God, and they KNOW they worship Lucifer. Not so with Judaism nor Islam.
You didn't address my subject about the globalists and world bankers involved in that. Surely you don't support those devil worshipers who back BOTH sides in a conflict.
And so does the color black, and red. But wait, aren't those colors also representative of some European nations? Yes!
So your argument for color is very weak friend.
Why are you ignoring all the evidence? You have the world's largest false religion complete with a false prophet and false god which beheads those who won't convert. Their "great" city is located in a wilderness. They engage in slavery. They have the most kings following the religion. They hate Israel and Christians. Their ancestors were the original Babylonians and from Babel. It baffles me that you can't see this.
I disagree that they we are told that they are knowingly worshiping Satan. We are not told that, in fact, we are told that they deceived. They are deceived into following the Beast and the Harlot.
As for the Globalists and their agenda, they are evil too. But don't expect them to form some new global religion for us all to worship. That has already been done.
You have to take the passage as a whole. "Behold a Green Horse. The name of him was death. Hades follows him (and those who follow him). Power was given to them over a fourth of the world. (1/4 of the world is Islamic right now!!). They have power to kill by war, by famine (the poorest and hungriest nations are Islamic), with death (nuclear, chemical and biological weapons) and by the nations of the earth (they have 58 predominantly Muslim nations)."
Not so weak if you can see ahead what's coming. Islam has already killed 50 million Christians during the Ottoman Empire. They indirectly killed at least 6 million Jews as they supported Hitler. We know that they will kill at least another 150 million Christians before they are done. We know that they will nuke their own city, Mecca. The Sunnis and Shi'a hate each other. But they will be united by a single apocalyptic figure that they call the Mahdi, that we call the AntiChrist.
It's all coming together...
Then your storehouse of proof is lacking, because the occultist isn't even considered in your theory.
Islam this, and Islam that... only reason they're a problem today is because western leaders allow them space, because they want their globalist aims to include them. Haven't you noticed western leaders allowing a lot more Muslims into the West lately? Islam isn't doing that, western globalists are allowing them entry.
Of course the occultist are in trouble. But they aren't mentioned. Their population is relatively small. You need to consider the characters in play in Revelation.
SATAN: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns.
RENEWED ISLAMIC EMPIRE: I saw a beast rising up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns
MUSLIMS: So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast
This tells us Muslims are actually worshiping Satan. But do they know it?
by which he deceived those who received the mark of the beast
The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire.
I'm not understanding the concept of "secret" to rapture. And I know of only 1 "rapture" description, suggesting rapture happens AFTER tribulation years. Matt 24:29-31
Sorry man. You really just don't know how the real world is, obviously having been sheltered.
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Not too sheltered my good friend. I've been to 45 countries and experienced every culture. I think the problem is you are "Western- Centric." In other words, you look at the Bible through the lens of a westerner. The problem with that approach is the Bible was written "Israel-centric." The last book, Revelation, was written in the first century AD. It would be 1400 years more before the western hemisphere was discovered.
In terms of prophesy, the focus is on Israel and those around her who impact her. This is true from the writings of Moses and carries through the entire Bible. If you start looking at prophesy as a Jew living in Israel, it will make a lot more sense to you.
I don't deny the existence of the Globalists and their agenda. I know all about the CFR, the Bilderbergers, the Rothchilds and Rockerfellers, etc. But, the Bible is silent about them. They obviously call the shots behind the scenes for much of what goes on. I am against the UN too. But none of this can be found in the Bible.
I used to look at Rev 13 and think that the UN was going to usher in a One World Government and take away all our rights. Who knows, it might happen, but this passage isn't discussing that. It is discussing the re-birth of Islam and that all Muslims must get in line with this radical Jihadist movement that's going on. A Satanic figure will emerge who will unite the Muslims and lead them against Israel. This is the message of Rev 13.
Then you don't really understand what the four locusts of the Book of Joel represent for the end. God said He tells us of a thing before He does them, and He is Who is sending the locust army of Joel 2. And no, the locusts of Joel is not the northern army out of the northern quarters that comes upon Israel on the last day of this world.
Furthermore, you're not even staying within God's Word with your theory about that coming Satanic figure. Jesus said it would be a pseudo-Christ (pseudochristos of Matt.24:23-26). Apostle Paul showed it will be one who will claim to be God sitting in the temple of God, which means what temple? It means the JEW'S temple, not Islam's!
The Antichrist is getting ready to come to Jerusalem and build the third temple to start up old covenant worship again among the orthodox Jews, and the Jews will believe he is their MESSIAH. So far, looks like you're probably going to do that along with them since you're deceived about who the coming Antichrist is going to be.
That's a pretty harsh accusation. I am not going to be deceived. Mat 24:23-26 does not discuss THE Antichrist. Read it again:
For false christs and false prophets will arise.
Both words are plural. The Muslims are awaiting the return of Jesus too. They call him Isa and he appears about the same time as the Mahdi and Isa is to assist the Mahdi in defeating the so called AntiChrist which they also believe in.
You make this statement: "The Antichrist is getting ready to come to Jerusalem and build the third temple to start up old covenant worship again among the orthodox Jews..."
Paul doesn't mention Jerusalem. Paul doesn't breath a word about starting back up the old covenant worship again either. Paul doesn't say where this happens only that it happens before Christ returns. This is what Paul says:
"the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, [SUP]4 [/SUP]who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God."
Back to this passage in a moment. You mention that I'm going to be deceived. What you are really saying is that I am condemned to Hell and that I am not a true believer. What gives you the right to judge my heart? This is what Paul says about those who are deceived:
[SUP]10 [/SUP]and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
We know from John who the deceived are:
by which he deceived those who received the mark of the beast....He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. [SUP]11 [/SUP]And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”
Trust me, I am not going to be worshiping or serving the Islamic empire nor it's copy nor will I accept or receive it's mark.
Let me ask you something, where does the Man of Sin come from? Is he born here on earth or does he come from heaven? Let's step back, where is Jesus before He comes back to earth? Let's look to 2 Thes 1 because Paul tells us in the same passage:
"when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels"
So the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven, correct? So where is the Man of Sin when he is revealed here?
for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed....so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
So we see that the Man of Sin is revealed in the Temple of God in place of where God normally would be sitting. Now let me ask you something, "HAS GOD EVER SAT IN A MAN-MADE TEMPLE HERE ON EARTH? Any student of the Bible, which we both claim to be should know this passage:
Acts 17:24
“God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands.
Do you see that? God doesn't sit in man-made temples. If you understand this then it would be impossible to think the real God is sitting in any Man Made Temple!!!
So, again I ask, where is the Temple that God sits in? There are only two choices. 1) God dwells in us as believers and; 2) God sits in the Temple in Heaven.
Revelation 7:15
Therefore they are before the throne of God, and serve Him day and night in His temple. And He who sits on the throne will dwell among them.
Revelation 11:19
Then the temple of God was opened in heaven, and the ark of His covenant was seen in His temple
Revelation 15:8
The temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God and from His power, and no one was able to enter the temple till the seven plagues of the seven angels were completed.
John tells us that God's Temple is in Heaven and God sits on His throne in His Temple in Heaven. So, if you are the Man of Sin and you wish to replace God and show yourself that you are God, do you not have to sit on God's Throne? If the Man of Sin does sit on God's Throne in Heaven, do you suppose that event would cause this?
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, [SUP]8 [/SUP]but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer.
I would think Satan sitting on God's Throne would cause a problem in heaven, don't you? I can't think of anything worse that Satan could do. Then Satan is cast to earth for the last time and not allowed to return to heaven.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Does Satan really deceive the entire planet? Of course not. He deceives those who take the Mark of the Beast which are Muslims. We know that Satan cannot deceive the ELECT because it is not possible and Jesus tells us this in Mat 24. It is the inhabitants of the earth and sea who are in trouble and John tells us in Rev 13 where the "sea" is, which is North of Israel based on Daniel 7. Satan isn't coming down to harm fishes in the ocean.
Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”
So when Satan comes down to earth as a man but with all of his Satanic power, he deceives his people in the "earth" and "sea." There is no prophesy of a rebuild 3rd Temple in Jerusalem. We know Satan is really mad and we know that it is his own people, his own followers that are in trouble. Satan will kill any Muslim who will not worship the Beast and its image. Indeed, ISIS is killing anyone who will not swear allegiance to them right now!!
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Yeah, you are definitely... deceived. Biggest case of Islam-phobia I've ever seen.
In Matt.24:23-26 the tense is singular, not plural, even though the translators put pseudochristos as "false Christs". It's easy to know it's meant in the singular also, because of its parallel Scripture by Paul in 2 Thess.2 and by John in Rev.13:11 forward, all three speaking of the false one who comes doing great signs and wonders to deceive the world!
Like my Lord Jesus told the unbelieving deceived Jews, you're very much in a similar state about the identity of the coming Antichrist...
John 5:43
43 I am come in My Father's name, and ye receive Me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
KJV
Who said Paul did say anything about that? I didn't refer to Paul about that. The Book of Daniel and Jesus in His Olivet Discourse referred to that! (as you well know but instead DENY about that "abomination of desolation" event). Even Rev.11:1-2 shows temple worship again in Jerusalem within the 6th trumpet - 2nd woe timing. And the Jews can't do temple worship in Jerusalem again without... a standing temple and sacrifices and Levite priests as per the old covenant!
Your deception is showing; you just passed right over that "sits as God in the temple of God" phrase like it wasn't really there!!! Where would that event take place? IN JERUSALEM WITH ANOTHER TEMPLE. That's a temple built by the children of Israel that Paul was referring to, not the Church. Today, the Jews have the materials ready to build it again. Let me say that again....
TODAY, THE JEWS IN JERUSALEM ALREADY HAVE THE MATERIALS READY TO BUILD ANOTHER TEMPLE!
Would you like to HIDE that FACT? I think you would! You'd probably love for me to just shut-up about that no doubt! I will not!
Ha, ha! Sorry, I just have to laugh for a moment, because of you trying to play that game!
Only Jesus Christ has Authority to judge to condemnation to hell. But I CAN say, you're in DANGER, being deceived by the Jews whom you're listening to! No one has to judge your heart to know the BS you put out that goes totally opposite of Holy Writ; your Jewish interpretation of the "abomination of desolation" in Daniel and the false messiah being a major one.
No, you definitely WON'T be worshiping some Islamic empire, because no such empire is going to occur in the last days!
Instead, what IS... going to conspire, is a specific false Messiah coming to JERUSALEM to play God sitting in the rebuilt temple and placing the idol abomination at the end while demanding all bow to it or be killed! If you're in Jerusalem in that future time, no doubt you'll want to get out of there when that happens, or maybe you won't, because you will instead think that false one will be Christ having returned like Jesus warned us against.
NOW THAT... is STRANGELY FUNNY!!!
By that above you have so BLOWN God's Holy Writ out of proportion so as to make understanding about that man of sin completely unintelligible! By that you show you are NOT really that interested in learning and understanding what God's Word actually reveals, but you are more interested in pushing the unbelieving JEW'S PROPAGANDA HERE.
Apostle Paul well knew he was speaking of the temple in Jerusalem when he said, "temple of God". Trying to move that to Heaven is TOTALLY INSANE! It's even to say that a false one could actually SIT UPON GOD'S THRONE IN HEAVEN!! That is how much you have SMEARED our Heavenly Father by your statements!
I want NOTHING to do with YOU. I no longer trust anything... that you say, because you have shown me your true colors by your statements of abomination above about Paul meaning God's temple in Heaven instead of the temple in Jerusalem he was actually speaking of!