“Confronting the Error of Hyper-Grace” – a response to Michael Brown

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Grace777x70

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When I sin I go to my Father on my knees and I say.." Father that is a sin I just did..that was wrong..it is not who You made me to be in Christ.. Thank you that YOur Son..my Lord Jesus blood was shed for me..I confess that Jesus is my righteousness and holiness...He is my Advocate!..I love you and trust what Jesus did for us! )

I do not "confess" to be forgiven...His blood already did that......I acknowledge what Jesus has already done in His finished work,,.

Philemon 1:6 (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] That the communication of thy faith may become effectual by the acknowledging of every good thing which is in you in Christ Jesus.


I confess Him!..He is awesome and mighty to save!


Ahwatukee said:
Ok, so here is the question: You've been a believer for a long time, and one day you commit adultery. According to God's grace do you:

A: Repent and Go to God and confess your sin and ask for forgiveness, or ....

B: Do you say to yourself, Jesus already paid the penalty for my sins, so I don't need to confess or repent and it is the same for any sin that I commit in my life? Before you answer, consider the following:

"If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us."

Even though Jesus already paid the penalty for our sins, when we sin, we still need repent and go to God and confess it. The grace of God and the indwelling of the Spirit should lead us to get control of our sinful nature and to endeavor to sin as least as possible. For all sin is against God.

When the disciples asked Jesus to teach them to pray, one of the prayers was, "forgive us our sins, as we would also forgive those who would sin against us." That was an example of on-going prayer and not a one-time prayer.
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HeRoseFromTheDead

HeRoseFromTheDead

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Ahwatukee said:
B: Do you say to yourself, Jesus already paid the penalty for my sins, so I don't need to confess or repent and it is the same for any sin that I commit in my life? Before you answer, consider the following:

"If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us."

Even though Jesus already paid the penalty for our sins, when we sin, we still need repent and go to God and confess it. The grace of God and the indwelling of the Spirit should lead us to get control of our sinful nature and to endeavor to sin as least as possible. For all sin is against God.

When the disciples asked Jesus to teach them to pray, one of the prayers was, "forgive us our sins, as we would also forgive those who would sin against us." That was an example of on-going prayer and not a one-time prayer.
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Hyper-Greasy-Gracers choose B, and twist scripture (especially the two you mentioned) to an astonishing degree to get there.
 
Willie-T

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Willie-T said:
.............................................................Wow!
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Grace777x70 said:
Hey Willie..flip the switch buddy!!..New Covenant repentance.....coming to a church near you...:)
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No thank you. I flipped that switch around 37 years ago, and I still believe the Savior and life I repented into. I pray that God will keep me strong so that I will stay in this position of having repented.... and that I will never repent to any other way of trusting again.
 
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Grace777x70 said:
When I sin I go to my Father on my knees and I say.." Father that is a sin I just did..that was wrong..it is not who You made me to be in Christ.. Thank you that YOur Son..my Lord Jesus blood was shed for me..I confess that Jesus is my righteousness and holiness...He is my Advocate!..I love you and trust what Jesus did for us! )

I do not "confess" to be forgiven...His blood already did that......I acknowledge what Jesus has already done in His finished work,,.
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Did? His blood wasn't left at the cross.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
who is this prince character? I am confused, I must have missed something

And why are we talking about what men say again?
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Well, let me clue you in EG., Just because some here on CC happen to have read or heard preaching by a grace preacher/pastor named Joseph Prince from Singapore ., many believers like crossnote for instance think everyone who likes Prince., agrees with EVERYTHING Prince says.,and categorizes Willie as a 'follower' :confused:

But I happen to know for a fact that brother Willie (for instance) is not one who holds to the rapture of the church and he does not agree with Prince on MANY other issues but appreciates Prince's stand on grace. (Willie doesn't even like to listen to Prince) but will read his books.

Where as I agree with much of what Prince preaches in comparison to Willie. But since brother Willie has a few books of Princes., he has been considered a 'follower' of Prince by crossnote.

Again., it is important to not throw everyone into the same soup mix. (you know you do crossnote!!!) :D
 
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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
So Jesus sorta accidentally got into trouble?
Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put [him] to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see [his] seed, he shall prolong [his] days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand. Isaiah 53:10​
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Now see., I disagree with both my dear brothers on the issue of hell. And although I don't like or understand or comprehend the idea of hell and God even making such a place., I cannot dismiss it for Bible reasons. So you see., we all do not hold to the same interpretations but we do hold to the most important and foundational truths.
 
Grace777x70

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This one from you is my all time favorite by far!,,love it!!..I would prefer to have this one...

a neo-gnostic Hyper-GreasyGracist


HeRoseFromTheDead said:
Hyper-Greasy-Gracers choose B, and twist scripture (especially the two you mentioned) to an astonishing degree to get there.
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Willie-T

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ladylynn said:


Now see., I disagree with both my dear brothers on the issue of hell. And although I don't like or understand or comprehend the idea of hell and God even making such a place., I cannot dismiss it for Bible reasons. So you see., we all do not hold to the same interpretations but we do hold to the most important and foundational truths.
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And even knowing these things about my sister (and a bit more that you don't know) she is still one of my favorite people on this forum. (I have a little more than a dozen "favorites")
 
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