Breaking News Terror In Paris

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blue_ladybug said:
For obvious reasons, guns should NOT be allowed in schools, theaters, churches, etc. jmo
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But that makes people sitting ducks. Like I said,a Christian school here has a sign on the door "we are armed". Do you think someone would try to walk in that school and risk being shot or will they go down the block to the unarmed school?
 
kaylagrl said:
But that makes people sitting ducks. Like I said,a Christian school here has a sign on the door "we are armed". Do you think someone would try to walk in that school and risk being shot or will they go down the block to the unarmed school?
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I'd like to point out had anyone else said what Blue said, the person would be accused of being a left-wing liberal and hating America and promoting evil.. Yet because it's Blue, she gets respectfully disagreed with... Just sayin.
 
jsr1221 said:
I'd like to point out had anyone else said what Blue said, the person would be accused of being a left-wing liberal and hating America and promoting evil.. Yet because it's Blue, she gets respectfully disagreed with, as anyone should when having these discussions. Just sayin.
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Miss Ladybug has always been respectful to me,whether we agree or disagree. The comment I made is the second time I made it,I believe the first time was to you. Or maybe Miss Glitter.Either way Miss Ladybug is respectful and has no intention to act superior,nasty or put someone down. She is not snotty in her responses and therefore I respond to her in kind. I do the same to you when you respond that way,or hadn't you noticed?
 
kaylagrl said:
Miss Ladybug has always been respectful to me,whether we agree or disagree. The comment I made is the second time I made it,I believe the first time was to you. Or maybe Miss Glitter.Either way Miss Ladybug is respectful and has no intention to act superior,nasty or put someone down. She is not snotty in her responses and therefore I respond to her in kind. I do the same to you when you respond that way,or hadn't you noticed?
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I didn't say you'd do the accusing. I think you and I both know the person(s) I am referring to. I just noticed it and found it... Rather interesting.
 
jsr1221 said:
I didn't say you'd do the accusing. I think you and I both know the person(s) I am referring to. I just noticed it and found it... Rather interesting.
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Well said person can speak for himself. I believe Mitspa is from the south. Protection of freedom,the right to bear arms,protecting their loved ones is very important to them. I married a southerner, I understand where Mitspa is coming from. They see a liberal mindset destroying our country,taking away our freedoms,putting our loved ones in danger.They see a president that has made us hated in the world and who is trying to destroy the country. A president who mocks Christianity and those who want the right to protect themselves and their families. They see a president who lights up the white house for gays but sits on his hands when the country asks for flags to be lowered to honor the dead.They see a president that defends Muslims more than Christians in his own country. And when liberal minded people start with the nonsense its more than some of us can take.

There have always been people who stood on the ramparts and sounded the alarm. Winston Churchill for instance. No one wanted to face it.No one wanted to believe Hitler wanted to be leader of the world. They tried to appease him,they tried to ignore him. In the end they had no choice but to face the truth. And Churchill was the one they stood behind.The one sounding the alarm. People are sounding the alarm. You can be blind and ignore it but it will not stop Islam and the truth that they are cleansing the world for their savior to return. Peaceful Muslims will join or be murdered the same as we infidels. So ya I understand how Mitspa and Utah and others feel. I feel the same way. And Im not about to be silenced.The alarm is being sounded. Ignore it to your own detriment.
 
kaylagrl said:
Well said person can speak for himself. I believe Mitspa is from the south. Protection of freedom,the right to bear arms,protecting their loved ones is very important to them. I married a southerner, I understand where Mitspa is coming from. They see a liberal mindset destroying our country,taking away our freedoms,putting our loved ones in danger.They see a president that has made us hated in the world and who is trying to destroy the country. A president who mocks Christianity and those who want the right to protect themselves and their families. They see a president who lights up the white house for gays but sits on his hands when the country asks for flags to be lowered to honor the dead.They see a president that defends Muslims more than Christians in his own country. And when liberal minded people start with the nonsense its more than some of us can take.

There have always been people who stood on the ramparts and sounded the alarm. Winston Churchill for instance. No one wanted to face it.No one wanted to believe Hitler wanted to be leader of the world. They tried to appease him,they tried to ignore him. In the end they had no choice but to face the truth. And Churchill was the one they stood behind.The one sounding the alarm. People are sounding the alarm. You can be blind and ignore it but it will not stop Islam and the truth that they are cleansing the world for their savior to return. Peaceful Muslims will join or be murdered the same as we infidels. So ya I understand how Mitspa and Utah and others feel. I feel the same way. And Im not about to be silenced.The alarm is being sounded. Ignore it to your own detriment.
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Rather than ignoring it, I'm going to protect myself and anyone I care about, and hope and pray Jesus gets here soon so I don't have to see this on the news anymore.. Cause this is far from over and will not end. No matter who sounds the alarm. Like I have said, the only way it stops is when Jesus gets hehe. Til then, the world continues to burn to the ground... And as far as respect, this isn't directed at you but for those that hair people into these discussions by saying things like "leftwing liberal hating American." do to others as you would have done to you... If anyone enjoys baiting for debates, then they (yes, you Mitspa) have a sick pleasure.
 
jsr1221 said:
Rather than ignoring it, I'm going to protect myself and anyone I care about, and hope and pray Jesus gets here soon so I don't have to see this on the news anymore.. Cause this is far from over and will not end. No matter who sounds the alarm. Like I have said, the only way it stops is when Jesus gets hehe. Til then, the world continues to burn to the ground... And as far as respect, this isn't directed at you but for those that hair people into these discussions by saying things like "leftwing liberal hating American." do to others as you would have done to you... If anyone enjoys baiting for debates, then they (yes, you Mitspa) have a sick pleasure.
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Well I'll let you boys figure that out.You know when Jews were taken away to concentration camps Im sure they thought the world we ending. When Pearl Harbor was bombed Im sure Sunday sermons were saying "Jesus is at the door" But it wasn't the end. And 6 million + lives were lost because we were too slow to act.We cannot just sit and wait for the end.We must defend the innocent.We must stop ISIS where we can,block Islams message where we can.We cannot sit and let evil overtake the world.Greater is He in you. In the military you are to follow the last instructions you were given. And that is what we are to do. Protect the innocent,witness,spread the Gospel and fight the evil one with all that is within us. If Christians the instructions our God gave us as seriously as Muslims take their gods instructions what a different world it would be.
 
kaylagrl said:
Well I'll let you boys figure that out.You know when Jews were taken away to concentration camps Im sure they thought the world we ending. When Pearl Harbor was bombed Im sure Sunday sermons were saying "Jesus is at the door" But it wasn't the end. And 6 million + lives were lost because we were too slow to act.We cannot just sit and wait for the end.We must defend the innocent.We must stop ISIS where we can,block Islams message where we can.We cannot sit and let evil overtake the world.Greater is He in you. In the military you are to follow the last instructions you were given. And that is what we are to do. Protect the innocent,witness,spread the Gospel and fight the evil one with all that is within us. If Christians the instructions our God gave us as seriously as Muslims take their gods instructions what a different world it would be.
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Evil has been since the beginning of time.. From Adam and Eve being deceived to the persecution of the Christian's... To much after Christ rose. Instances you just said. The same stuff will be happening when we are all dead.. That's if Jesus returns by then. I stand by in THAT is the only way this war ends. Can continue doing all you said, and I so wholeheartedly agree with you... But it doesn't change the fact the war will go on. And on. And on. And on. Til there is no more Earth. The difference between Christian's and Muslims is we are (supposed to be) about love... There is no love in the Quran. Our radicalness (if that is a word.. I really don't know) doesn't call is to kill innocent lives.
 
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jsr1221 said:
Evil has been since the beginning of time.. From Adam and Eve being deceived to the persecution of the Christian's... To much after Christ rose. Instances you just said. The same stuff will be happening when we are all dead.. That's if Jesus returns by then. I stand by in THAT is the only way this war ends. Can continue doing all you said, and I so wholeheartedly agree with you... But it doesn't change the fact the war will go on. And on. And on. And on. Til there is no more Earth. The difference between Christian's and Muslims is we are (supposed to be) about love... There is no love in the Quran. Our radicalness (if that is a word.. I really don't know) doesn't call is to kill innocent lives.
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No,of course it will not end until Jesus brings peace.Satan is still loose in this world.We are not in heaven yet. Yes we are to be about love.We are to share the gospel and pray for the lost. But I dont think God doesn't intend for us to protect our country and our families.Otherwise we need to get rid of the military and cops etc.
 
jsr1221 said:
The only gun control I think is appropriate is stricter background checks.. I don't like Obama (even though certain people accuse me of being a liberal that voted for him), but he said a valid point (I know a lot of people hate him, but yes lets take a moment and think rationally). How is it we can have no fly lists for people, yet it seems your every day nut job can purchase a gun? Something wrong is with that picture. Yes I agree with you something is better than nothing.
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Currently federal law requires a background on all purchases from a gun store and many states require a background check on purchases from private parties although that is near impossible to enforce. All of those background checks run through NCIC which is a federal database that all states report felony convictions and felony arrest warrants to. It is IMPOSSIBLE for a former felon to purchase a firearm from gun store however they can get them all day long on the black market usually at a fraction of the price that someone would pay from legal sources or use straw purchasers to obtain them.

The biggest problem when you look at most of these mass shootings is that the firearms were purchased by the shooter through legal means because they had no prior criminal record and there is no means of tracking persons with serious mental or emotional issues. Many persons with serious mental issues are not being seen by a professional whatsoever, and even in those cases such as James Holmes (the Aurora theater shooter) who was being seen by a professional, that provider is prohibited by privacy laws from saying anything about that person's condition unless they perceive the patient to be an imminent threat to themselves or others.
 
Oncefallen said:
Currently federal law requires a background on all purchases from a gun store and many states require a background check on purchases from private parties although that is near impossible to enforce. All of those background checks run through NCIC which is a federal database that all states report felony convictions and felony arrest warrants to. It is IMPOSSIBLE for a former felon to purchase a firearm from gun store however they can get them all day long on the black market usually at a fraction of the price that someone would pay from legal sources or use straw purchasers to obtain them.

The biggest problem when you look at most of these mass shootings is that the firearms were purchased by the shooter through legal means because they had no prior criminal record and there is no means of tracking persons with serious mental or emotional issues. Many persons with serious mental issues are not being seen by a professional whatsoever, and even in those cases such as James Holmes (the Aurora theater shooter) who was being seen by a professional, that provider is prohibited by privacy laws from saying anything about that person's condition unless they perceive the patient to be an imminent threat to themselves or others.
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So it boils down to this,perpetrators are better protected than the victims. Good to know.
 
jsr1221 said:
Evil has been since the beginning of time.. From Adam and Eve being deceived...
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I'm confused. Are you saying (or implying) that the beginning of time = Mankind's creation/Genesis 1:26?
 
IEATGLITTER said:
He's talking about how there are many places in this world that aren't safe because of terrorism
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And yet you're an islamic apologist. By your words you are justified and by your words you are condemned. You have no idea how naive you are, and dangerously naive at that. Please don't reproduce. Please!
 
jsr1221 said:
The only reference I made about guns was they wouldn't stop the people from performing the acts as people (Mitspa) would like to think they would. I'll repeat myself... Gun or no gun for defense, evil will still carry out their evil intentions.
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Again you share nothing more than hapless, liberal dribble.

I promise you, had I been in one of those Paris theaters when it all hit the fan, and I was packing, many innocent lives would have been saved. Its nothing machismo on my part and it has nothing to do with ego; its just the basic principles of physics and life regarding force meeting force.
 
Utah said:
Again you share nothing more than hapless, liberal dribble.

I promise you, had I been in one of those Paris theaters when it all hit the fan, and I was packing, many innocent lives would have been saved. Its nothing machismo on my part and it has nothing to do with ego; its just the basic principles of physics and life regarding force meeting force.
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I do not understand how this reasoning could be question other than the nonsensical but ever-prevalent "flying bullets" scenario.
 
I mean it's a very simple formula. If you, Utah, attempt to geld me with a hammer, my chances of not being gelded are far greater if I too have a hammer and know how to use it.
 
Desdichado said:
I mean it's a very simple formula. If you, Utah, attempt to geld me with a hammer, my chances of not being gelded are far greater if I too have a hammer and know how to use it.
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This is the news forum.
I was under the impression that all threats of physical violence were relegated to the Bible Discussion Forum.
 
Desdichado said:
I mean it's a very simple formula. If you, Utah, attempt to geld me with a hammer, my chances of not being gelded are far greater if I too have a hammer and know how to use it.
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Amen! Amen! Amen! (Banging head on concrete knowing that liberals either do not understand this or they do understand this but refuse to listen to sound, logic reasoning.)
 
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