GOP Presidential Nomination

[Sinnerman]

you cannot deport illegal immigrants at the rate trump promises...not without draconian measures that threaten the rights of every american...

for example given the probably too conservative estimate of 11 million illegal immigrants in this country today...you would have to catch over 7,500 illegal immigrants -every single day- in order to find and deport all 11 million during one presidential term...that is not going to happen as a result of ID checks at routine traffic stops.

either he doesn't know all this...which makes him delusional...
or he knows this and doesn't actually intend to take any draconian measures...which makes him a liar...
or he knows this and does intend to take the draconian measures he has both explicitly and implicitly proposed...which puts him in direct opposition to the united states constitution...

none of those exactly scream 'fit for the office of president of the united states'

There is not a single presidential candidate that tells the truth. They all fudge on the numbers. They all tell you what they want to do won't cost as much as it always does.

Everyone knows Trump's deportation plan cannot remove that many people that fast. So what. Are you planning to vote for none of the above?

You are missing the point about Trump. He is leading in the polls. Why? Because people are tired of politicians who promise results and don't deliver. They want an outsider. They don't seem to care if he makes a lot of statements that don't make sense. All politicians do that.

Conservative Republicans do not want illegal immigrants in our country. They want them out. There would not be a discussion about the topic if not for Donald Trump. If he was elected and only removed 2 million illegal immigrants in four years, it would still be better than what any other Republican candidate would have done.

I'm not planning to vote for Trump, but I completely understand why others would vote for him. I don't understand someone like you. What is it you want from a candidate? Who do you support? Why do you support them?

 

[Sirk]

satan works in obvious ways...

There is not a single presidential candidate that tells the truth. They all fudge on the numbers. They all tell you what they want to do won't cost as much as it always does.

Everyone knows Trump's deportation plan cannot remove that many people that fast. So what. Are you planning to vote for none of the above?

You are missing the point about Trump. He is leading in the polls. Why? Because people are tired of politicians who promise results and don't deliver. They want an outsider. They don't seem to care if he makes a lot of statements that don't make sense. All politicians do that.

Conservative Republicans do not want illegal immigrants in our country. They want them out. There would not be a discussion about the topic if not for Donald Trump. If he was elected and only removed 2 million illegal immigrants in four years, it would still be better than what any other Republican candidate would have done.

I'm not planning to vote for Trump, but I completely understand why others would vote for him. I don't understand someone like you. What is it you want from a candidate? Who do you support? Why do you support them?

I've honestly never encountered a conservative as hateful as Rachel. It's her way or the highway in my experience. She offers critique but I've yet to hear an alternative from her.

 

[Sinnerman]

Suppose the leader of ISIS walked across our southern border with a couple of his wives, who were pregnant. He make's it to Bisbee, a sanctuary for illegals. Both his wives give birth to baby boys, future terrorists. Well, according to how many view U.S. law, both of the terrorists babies are now U.S. citizens. It's not insane for Donald Trump to suggest we need to change the way we allow people to become U.S. citizens. It's insane to keep allowing illegal immigrants to come here and give birth, in order to make their babies U.S. citizens.

 

[Mitspa]

If by left-wing you mean Trump himself, then sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pFrFid_6DY

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Its really sad when democrats are more conservative than republicans ...everyone knows that he used to call himself a democrat...maybe he was? In New York its good business I guess. But he is the only one that has enough guts to not play the PC game and for that alone, he deserves more respect than the establishment bunch.

 

[Sirk]

Suppose the leader of ISIS walked across our southern border with a couple of his wives, who were pregnant. He make's it to Bisbee, a sanctuary for illegals. Both his wives give birth to baby boys, future terrorists. Well, according to how many view U.S. law, both of the terrorists babies are now U.S. citizens. It's not insane for Donald Trump to suggest we need to change the way we allow people to become U.S. citizens. It's insane to keep allowing illegal immigrants to come here and give birth, in order to make their babies U.S. citizens.

It's insane to have the notion that allowing illegal immigrants to come here is making the world a better place. It certainly isn't making THIS place any better.... by allowing people to come here who don't assimilate into OUR culture.... but bring their 3rd world crap holes right along with them.

 

[Magenta]

i am just going to quote this since it is the bottom line of the issue and affirms the point i am making...you cannot deport illegal immigrants at the rate trump promises...not without draconian measures that threaten the rights of every american...

for example given the probably too conservative estimate of 11 million illegal immigrants in this country today...you would have to catch over 7,500 illegal immigrants -every single day- in order to find and deport all 11 million during one presidential term...that is not going to happen as a result of ID checks at routine traffic stops...

this is not propaganda...this is just math...

Many of those 11 million do not come from countries that raise terrorists to export in a bid to fulfil their religious/political mandate of bringing the world to submission through Islam.

 

[Sinnerman]

Saw a poll on Fox News that stated over 50% of voters want someone who will change the way things are done in Washington. It also showed that only 11% of voters cared how much experience the candidate has. This seems to explain why Donald Trump is polling so well.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

Examples please.

example...the systematic fourth amendment violations required for trump's 'deportation force' to be even close to as effective as he claims it will be...

this was already discussed...but i guess you are one of those low information voters that don't pay attention to anything...

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

along with 80% of Americans.

80% of americans are not regularly lying about their religious affiliation while running for public office...

a candidate who lies about religion...the most deeply held conviction a person can have...will lie about anything...

we already had eight years of a phony 'christian' president...why do you want more of the same from trump?

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

What? ..so by enforcing the laws we have...he is "ignoring" the rules.... I think your conspiracy stuff is better than this point

as i have already shown he would need to violate the constitution in order to 'enforce the laws' by the means he proposes...

and in case you need reminding...-the constitution- is the set of rules that makes us a nation!

we have already had eight years of a president with zero regard for the constitution...why would anyone want more of the same from trump?

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

So who besides Huckebee could any of us born-again believers agree with? The rest are SDA..catholics and in the case of Hillary ..devil worshiper and Obama ..muslim

A bad Presbyterian looks pretty good compared to what we have had.

you are misrepresenting or misunderstanding my position...

i don't view any particular religious belief as a qualification for public office...

my problem with trump's religion is that he -lies- about his religious affiliation...

 

[Sirk]

example...the systematic fourth amendment violations required for trump's 'deportation force' to be even close to as effective as he claims it will be...

this was already discussed...but i guess you are one of those low information voters that don't pay attention to anything...

Constitutional lawyers are hashing this out while Rachel her royal highness has a corner on the market of constitutional law. I like you less and less post by post. And still...Rachel can only insult instead of offer alternatives. Typical from an angry person.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

Hey if the ability to take over from that office is possible? You can bet Obama will use every trick in the book. Trump would be a saint compared to Obama or Hillary ... if he wins the Rep nomination ..he is the next president in my opinion.

trump would be a saint compared to obama?

that's what the iranians said about khomeini and the shah...

trump could very easily be worse than either obama or hillary...especially given that he isn't a real conservative...republicans are in serious danger of an 'out of the frying pan and into the fire' scenario these days...

 

[Sirk]

Hey if the ability to take over from that office is possible? You can bet Obama will use every trick in the book. Trump would be a saint compared to Obama or Hillary ... if he wins the Rep nomination ..he is the next president in my opinion.

But according to Rachel...Satan will have put him there. Her theology is pretty jacked. I think it has it's basis in anger.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

If he wins the nomination, no doubt I'd vote for him. It's his inconsistencies that make me lean towards a Cruz or Carson.

i will not vote for trump or his sycophant cruz under any circumstance...

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

There is not a single presidential candidate that tells the truth. They all fudge on the numbers. They all tell you what they want to do won't cost as much as it always does.

Everyone knows Trump's deportation plan cannot remove that many people that fast. So what. Are you planning to vote for none of the above?

You are missing the point about Trump. He is leading in the polls. Why? Because people are tired of politicians who promise results and don't deliver. They want an outsider. They don't seem to care if he makes a lot of statements that don't make sense. All politicians do that.

Conservative Republicans do not want illegal immigrants in our country. They want them out. There would not be a discussion about the topic if not for Donald Trump. If he was elected and only removed 2 million illegal immigrants in four years, it would still be better than what any other Republican candidate would have done.

I'm not planning to vote for Trump, but I completely understand why others would vote for him. I don't understand someone like you. What is it you want from a candidate? Who do you support? Why do you support them?

i will grant you that at least the majority of political candidates lie...

however trump is either lying or delusional or flagrantly treasonous with regard to his -signature issue and policy proposal-

if he can lie about the most important component of his campaign...he can and will lie about anything...

we have already had eight years of a pathological liar in the white house...why would anyone want more of the same from trump?

regarding which candidate i support...everyone in this primary except for trump and cruz are at least fit for office...

 

[Sirk]

i will not vote for trump or his sycophant cruz under any circumstance...

Well...it's looking like you'll be sitting this one out.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

I've honestly never encountered a conservative as hateful as Rachel. It's her way or the highway in my experience. She offers critique but I've yet to hear an alternative from her.

trump supporters are evidently just as accustomed to lying as he is...

contrary to your lie...i respect most of the candidates running right now...even though i don't agree with them on everything...so much for 'my way or the highway'

what i specifically don't tolerate...which you deliberately misrepresent as a general intolerance of all disagreement...is the quasi fascism and habitual dishonesty of trump and his cultish supporters...

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

Its really sad when democrats are more conservative than republicans ...everyone knows that he used to call himself a democrat...maybe he was? In New York its good business I guess. But he is the only one that has enough guts to not play the PC game and for that alone, he deserves more respect than the establishment bunch.

donald trump has merely found a different form of political correctness...

instead of saying what the academics and pundits want him to say...he says what a segment of the population wants him to say...

the only difference is in whose itching ears he is trying to tickle...-the truth- is still not part of the equation of trump's political speech...

 

[Sirk]

trump supporters are evidently just as accustomed to lying as he is...

contrary to your lie...i respect most of the candidates running right now...even though i don't agree with them on everything...so much for 'my way or the highway'

what i specifically don't tolerate...which you deliberately misrepresent as a general intolerance of all disagreement...is the quasi fascism and habitual dishonesty of trump and his cultish supporters...

Just the fact that you are continually on the attack is all the evidence I need for your lack of honesty and or credibility...not to mention your inability to be nice. Can you show me just one post where you have offered a solution to this immigration nightmare? I don't think you can...cuz it's hanging around with the unicorns.