Catholic Heresy (for the record)
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God did chose to preserve someone from sin and that person was Jesus Christ. If God had the power to keep Mary free from sin then God had the power to keep Jesus free from sin.
By claiming God had to keep Mary free from sin in order to keep Jesus free from sin proves you know nothing about God and what He says in the Scriptures dallasb78.
Romans 5:12
[SUP]12 [/SUP] Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned--
Sin entered the World through Adam. It was a Male, Adam, who brought sin into the World and its through the Male that the sins are passed to the child in the Womb. Therefore Mary could not pass on the sins to Jesus in the Womb. Only the Father of Jesus could do that and the Father of Jesus was the Holy Spirit who is sinless.
Full of Grace does not mean sinless dallasb78. Where in the Scriptures does God say full of Grace means being without sin? Its the Catholic Church and Satan that teaches this, not God and not us True Christians.
The problem with you dallasb78 is you are listening to the teachings from Satan. Its Satan who told the Catholic Church that Mary was without sin. Its Satan who told the Catholic Church that "Full of Grace' meant being without sin.
The Catholic Church today is following Satan as their God. You need to make up your mind. Are you going to Worship and follow Jesus Christ and His Truths or are you going to continue in the Catholic Church listening to and teaching the lies from Satan your God?
You are fighting against God and His Truths when you teach the lie that Mary was without sin.
2 Peter 2:1-3
[SUP]1 [/SUP] But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned;
[SUP]3 [/SUP] and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.
God is not asleep dallasb78, His Judgment against you is not idle. Repent and turn away from Satan before its too late and you find yourself cast into the Lake of Fire with your God Satan.
By claiming God had to keep Mary free from sin in order to keep Jesus free from sin proves you know nothing about God and what He says in the Scriptures dallasb78.
Romans 5:12
[SUP]12 [/SUP] Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned--
Sin entered the World through Adam. It was a Male, Adam, who brought sin into the World and its through the Male that the sins are passed to the child in the Womb. Therefore Mary could not pass on the sins to Jesus in the Womb. Only the Father of Jesus could do that and the Father of Jesus was the Holy Spirit who is sinless.
Full of Grace does not mean sinless dallasb78. Where in the Scriptures does God say full of Grace means being without sin? Its the Catholic Church and Satan that teaches this, not God and not us True Christians.
The problem with you dallasb78 is you are listening to the teachings from Satan. Its Satan who told the Catholic Church that Mary was without sin. Its Satan who told the Catholic Church that "Full of Grace' meant being without sin.
The Catholic Church today is following Satan as their God. You need to make up your mind. Are you going to Worship and follow Jesus Christ and His Truths or are you going to continue in the Catholic Church listening to and teaching the lies from Satan your God?
You are fighting against God and His Truths when you teach the lie that Mary was without sin.
2 Peter 2:1-3
[SUP]1 [/SUP] But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned;
[SUP]3 [/SUP] and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.
God is not asleep dallasb78, His Judgment against you is not idle. Repent and turn away from Satan before its too late and you find yourself cast into the Lake of Fire with your God Satan.
Point 1. Yes I meant "does not".
Point 2. Sorry, No catholic believes Mary created God. If there is they are heretical. Official Catholic believe is defined by the Church, not by individual catholics.
Point 3. "her Son" and "her son" are the same Person. There is only One Christ.
Point 4. Jesus is fully human, and fully Divine. No protestant or Catholic is to believe otherwise.
Point 5. It is true with Mary, and history doesn't need to be in Scripture to be true.
Point 6. He did preserve her sinless, He made an exception because it was fiting to have God Himself come into the world through a woman without sin. He is worthy of no less. Just like the Word of God in the Old Testament was kept in a flawless vessel(The Ark of the Covenant).
point 7. The Church and you disagree on the meaning of the verses. I will go with the Church.
Point 8. Something doesn't have to be in Scripture to be true. Only heresy in your opinion.
Point 9. I don't speak for God, but the Church does in matters of Faith and Morals. I am just repeating the doctrine of the Church.
Answer this: "Did Jesus rise from the dead because the Bible says so?" or "Does the Bible say so because Jesus rose from the dead?"
Point 2. Sorry, No catholic believes Mary created God. If there is they are heretical. Official Catholic believe is defined by the Church, not by individual catholics.
Point 3. "her Son" and "her son" are the same Person. There is only One Christ.
Point 4. Jesus is fully human, and fully Divine. No protestant or Catholic is to believe otherwise.
Point 5. It is true with Mary, and history doesn't need to be in Scripture to be true.
Point 6. He did preserve her sinless, He made an exception because it was fiting to have God Himself come into the world through a woman without sin. He is worthy of no less. Just like the Word of God in the Old Testament was kept in a flawless vessel(The Ark of the Covenant).
point 7. The Church and you disagree on the meaning of the verses. I will go with the Church.
Point 8. Something doesn't have to be in Scripture to be true. Only heresy in your opinion.
Point 9. I don't speak for God, but the Church does in matters of Faith and Morals. I am just repeating the doctrine of the Church.
Answer this: "Did Jesus rise from the dead because the Bible says so?" or "Does the Bible say so because Jesus rose from the dead?"
God honors His word above all else. God cannot lie. Heaven and earth shall pass away but not one jot or tittle will be lost from Gods word.
Mt 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Lu 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Mt 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Lu 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
All else may be a truth but Gods word is The Truth.
Contradictions abound in the words of men. Many books written by men are revised and updated as new information comes into view but Gods word does not change and is never wrong.
The popes are continuously revising church dogma to adapt it to the current mode to thinking. Keeping it correct in the modern age. Yesterdays sin is todays fad.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Contradictions abound in the words of men. Many books written by men are revised and updated as new information comes into view but Gods word does not change and is never wrong.
The popes are continuously revising church dogma to adapt it to the current mode to thinking. Keeping it correct in the modern age. Yesterdays sin is todays fad.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Contradictions do exist in the words of men but not the the doctrine of the Church. See 1 Timothy 3:15
Actually it's the protestant churches that have given in to fads. 500 years ago no Church believed in contraception or divorce two name just two examples. The Catholic church has never changed its doctrine, only added to it as the Holy Spirit revealed new truths about the faith. That's why to this day divorce is still a grave sin and Marriage is still a Holy Sacrament meant primarily for procreation.
Actually it's the protestant churches that have given in to fads. 500 years ago no Church believed in contraception or divorce two name just two examples. The Catholic church has never changed its doctrine, only added to it as the Holy Spirit revealed new truths about the faith. That's why to this day divorce is still a grave sin and Marriage is still a Holy Sacrament meant primarily for procreation.
Apparently you are not keeping up with your new pope. He's changing things as fast as he can. He's going to allow sodomy real soon. He is just picking around the edges right now but incorporating a social gospel will give him the latitude to bring all kinds if sin into the Roman church.
Right now you're just amusing. Any church doctrine that is not based upon the word of God is a contradiction waiting to happen.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Right now you're just amusing. Any church doctrine that is not based upon the word of God is a contradiction waiting to happen.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
The Father of Jesus is "God the Father" not the Holy Spirit. God didn't have to keep Mary free from sin in order for Jesus to be free from sin(because Jesus is God), but the Holiness of God requires a sinless vessel. Being "Full of Grace" means to have the full measure of grace that God can give resulting in sinlessness. I do not worship Satan.