Post #8777.Go look it up.
Okay..... here you go.
That's any easy one:
"All Scripture is given by the inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. So that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work." (2 Timothy 3:16)
To sum up:
The Bible is given to us for:
1. Doctrine.
2. Reproof.
3. Correction
4. Instruction in Righteousness
5. And to be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
Ahhhh ........ a little cut/paste going on yourself here Budman? Be truthful now, remember you did admit... to lie is to sin!
Whats your source?
Anyhoo..... back to the matter at hand. 2 Tim.3:16. First off, an examination of this verse in context shows that it doesn’t claim that at all; it only claims Scripture is "profitable" (Greek:
ophelimos) that is, helpful. Many things can be profitable for moving one toward a goal, without being sufficient in getting one to the goal. Notice that the passage nowhere even hints that Scripture is "sufficient"—which is, of course, exactly what you think the passage means.
the context of 2 Timothy 3:16–17 is Paul laying down a guideline for Timothy to make use of Scripture and tradition in his ministry as a bishop. Paul says, "But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; and that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is given by inspiration of God (Greek:
theopneustos = "God-breathed"), and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works" (2 Tim. 3:14–17). In verse 14, Timothy is initially exhorted to hold to the oral teachings—the traditions—that he received from the apostle Paul. This echoes Paul’s reminder of the value of oral tradition in 1:13–14, "Follow the pattern of the sound words which you have
heard from me, in the faith and love which are in Christ Jesus; guard the truth that has been entrusted to you by the Holy Spirit who dwells within us", and ". . . what you have
heard from me before many witnesses entrust to faithful men who will be able to teach others also" (2:2). Here Paul refers exclusively to
oral teaching and reminds Timothy to follow that as the "pattern" for his own teaching (1:13). Only after this is Scripture mentioned as "profitable" for Timothy’s ministry.
Finally, 2 Timothy 3:16 is specifically addressed to members of the hierarchy. It is a pastoral epistle, written to a young bishop Paul had ordained. This title was used in the Old Testament to describe those consecrated to the service of God (Deut. 33:1; 1 Sam. 2:27; 1 Kgs. 12:22). Not only does the text not say Scripture
sola, but Paul’s exhortation for Timothy to study the word of God is in the context of an exhortation to "preach the word" as a minister of Christ. To use this text to claim that
sola scriptura is being taught to the average layperson is—to borrow a phrase from Paul—going far "beyond what is written" (1 Cor. 4:6).
And 1 Corinthians 4:6 warns us not to go beyond what is written.
If you are going to quote a passage in Scripture..... quote the "whole" passage!
1 Cor.4:6: "I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, brothers, so that you may learn from us not to go beyond what is written, so that none of you will be inflated with pride in favor of one person over against another." Sheesh!
Now as far as 1Cor.4:6 goes:
That you may learn from us not to go beyond what is written: the words "to go" are not in the Greek, but have here been added as the minimum necessary to elicit sense from this difficult passage. It probably means that the Corinthians should avoid the false wisdom of vain speculation, contenting themselves with Paul’s proclamation of the cross, which is the fulfillment of God’s promises in the Old Testament (what is written). Inflated with pride: literally, "puffed up," i.e., arrogant, filled with a sense of self-importance. The term is particularly Pauline, found in the New Testament only in 1 Cor.4:6,18-19; 5:2; 8:1; 13:4; Col.2:18( the related noun at 2 Cor.12:20). It sometimes occurs in conjunction with the theme of "boasting," as in 1Cor. 4:6-7 here.
So, um...what exactly do we need your "church" or anything else for?
Lol! Are you serious dude???? I'll tell ya why, for starters, to clean up the mess of your thousands of differnt Protestant/non-Catholic denominations, and their thousands of differnt Scripture interpretations.... thats what for!!! I mean geez... look at all the differnt threads within this forum of all you non-Catholics arguing amoung yourselfs over who's version of Scripture is correct, and who's isn't! Somebody got to keep ya all in check!
Pax tecum
